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General FreeSpace => FreeSpace Discussion => Topic started by: Alpha on April 09, 2008, 11:12:56 am
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No, this is not a thread asking if there is going to be a sequel like those back in the day.
I actually just read a press release that could mean we are getting a sequel after all this time...
At the same time, the company will leverage its portfolio of gaming properties by creating sequels to some of its most successful games, including Earthworm Jim, Dark Alliance, Descent, and MDK.
I read the news here: http://kotaku.com/377733/interplay-sequelizing-earthworn-jim-dark-alliance-descent-mdk (http://kotaku.com/377733/interplay-sequelizing-earthworn-jim-dark-alliance-descent-mdk)
Is it 100% official? No. But hey, better than nothing... I ran a quick search and did not see this posted, the original article was posted not too long ago anyway.
Here's hoping...
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Personally I hope they don't make a sequel for FS (Developers Developers Developers Developers!), but I doubt they will anyway, FS wasn't exactly a very successful title for them.
And I know it's Descent: FreeSpace, but FreeSpace has basically nothing to do with Descent.
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And I know it's Descent: FreeSpace, but FreeSpace has basically nothing to do with Descent.
Righty-oh. :v: didn't want to irritate Mijenix Corporation, the creators of the one and only true Freespace. So, they threw Descent as a prefix, so that the names would be different (on some corners of the world, it is actually known as Conflict: FreeSpace - The Great War).
But meh. I don't care what they'll do now. More FreeSpace, more Descent, more MDK... just do what you wanna do.
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It was only named Descent because that would sell better?
I am just curious about one thing, bringing up this point. Why the frak would anyone name their game after the most common term used when talking about hard-disks?
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It was only named Descent because that would sell better?
It is not part of the Descent computer game series, and contained none of the ideas or materials from them. It was only prefixed with Descent to avoid trademark issues with Mijenix Corporation's "FreeSpace", a disk compression utility.
I am just curious about one thing, bringing up this point. Why the frak would anyone name their game after the most common term used when talking about hard-disks?
Volition also used the term "FreeSpace" in the game to initially describe what became later known as subspace.
There you have it. "Descent" in order to avoid legal battles, and "FreeSpace", which was a tiny accident, because they decided to call subspace "subspace" after naming the game.
And I'd still say "free space", when talking about disk space. With a space. Free[space]space. Not together. Separately. And I'm telling you. That space makes a difference.
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It was only named Descent because that would sell better?
I am just curious about one thing, bringing up this point. Why the frak would anyone name their game after the most common term used when talking about hard-disks?
Descent, as mentioned by Lobo, was used because Freespace wasn't available. They named it FreeSpace because that was their original name for subspace.
EDIT: I typed very, very slow.
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That press release has been known for a while now, and although they talk about Descent, there is no mention of Freespace. You can also see the Descent reference on their website, but nothing related to Freespace.
It would be great to see another Descent game in any case, but that all depends on whether they can acquire enough funding to start development. The sale of the Fallout IP gave them a large cash infusion but they're still in debt.
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Why did they choose 'Descent', and not something else (something more FreeSpacey, perhaps) to avoid those trademark issues?
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Why did they choose 'Descent', and not something else (something more FreeSpacey, perhaps) to avoid those trademark issues?
So it would sell better.
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People knew and loved the Descent series... slap its name on a box and that game will likely sell (it worked on my father, who LOVES Descent, but didn't ever get into Freespace's gameplay).
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I can confirm that...unlike FreeSpace, Descent is well known in Italy. No doubt the name "Descent"
will make the game sell better.
ex
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So, in conclusion: They added the prefix "Descent" in order to avoid legal controversy, and they chose the prefix "Descent", because many people knew Descent and it was thought that it would boost sales.
π=3
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And what about Conflict: FreeSpace?
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Oh yeah... cancel the conclusion. Seriously, what was up with Conflict?
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Oh yeah... cancel the conclusion. Seriously, what was up with Conflict?
Descent was not popular everywhere. In regions that it was not popular, the game was released as Conflict.
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Oh yeah... cancel the conclusion. Seriously, what was up with Conflict?
Descent was not popular everywhere. In regions that it was not popular, the game was released as Conflict.
Hmm. A bit complicated way, if you ask me. But yeah, I suppose that if people don't really know Descent, having it as a prefix doesn't do that much good, at least if compared to Conflict. K.
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Because of M. C.'s "FreeSpace"...and the simple fact that the game had nothing to do with the Descent series.
y=mx + q
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Wow there's a FreeSpace 666? And all you have to do is buy 7 FreeSpace 2 copies?
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But only after we've had FreeSpace 3. And that was your job. Though I am guessing that if a 665th sequel appears, the quality might start dropping a bit.
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To get back on topic... I have a copy of "Conflict". Would you describe Engalnd as a "corner of the world"?
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Maybe not as an entire corner, but a part of a corner, nonetheless. And I think we have Conflict as well. At least that's what they said on some reviews.
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To get back on topic... I have a copy of "Conflict". Would you describe Engalnd as a "corner of the world"?
I've also got Conflict, but I got mine from Amazon... Forgot where it was from originally.
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Mine is Conflict, came free with my computer ages ago.
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Why did they choose 'Descent', and not something else (something more FreeSpacey, perhaps) to avoid those trademark issues?
So it would sell better.
Hey, it worked on me. I saw the FS1/Silent Threat package at K-Mart for either 5 or 10 dollars, saw the Descent name on it and I bought it. I was thinking it actually had something to do with Descent. I got it home, booted it up, and said WTF is this? I kept playing and I got hooked on it. A few months later I found the 3 cd package of FS2 and on Amazon.com and ordered it without hesitation.
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Hey, it worked on me. I saw the FS1/Silent Threat package at K-Mart for either 5 or 10 dollars, saw the Descent name on it and I bought it. I was thinking it actually had something to do with Descent. I got it home, booted it up, and said WTF is this? I kept playing and I got hooked on it. A few months later I found the 3 cd package of FS2 and on Amazon.com and ordered it without hesitation.
It was the total opposite for me. I picked up a copy of Descent 3 thinking it had something to do with Descent Freespace. Big disappointment, no capital ships, no wingmen, etc.
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What if to boost sales they packaged the Freespace 1 and 2 campaigns in freespace 3?
I don't care who makes FS3. I don't care if it is the worst game to come out ever. I don't care if it makes Derek's smarts games look like our freespace or Halo.
I
want
Freespace
3
I want to know what happened to Bosch. I want to know why the shivans nuked capella. I want to know what the Shivans are.
I want the truth!
And if i have to have a crap game to get questions that have haunted me for years, fine.
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Even if you get a crappy answer that makes no sense?
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Even if you get a crappy answer that makes no sense?
Fine, as long as i get a bad FS but a good answer ill be a happy camper.
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I designed a campaign that attempts to answer the questions about the Shivans. I think I came up with a pretty good answer too. Unfortunately, it isn't much past the concept stage at this point, especially considering I don't have FRED until I can find a Win XP install disc to install Boot Camp with ( I have done what I can in TextEdit though). Also, very few questions are answered until the last couple of chapters (total 5). Expect this campaign in chunks over the next several years/decades ;)
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What if to boost sales they packaged the Freespace 1 and 2 campaigns in freespace 3?
I don't care who makes FS3. I don't care if it is the worst game to come out ever. I don't care if it makes Derek's smarts games look like our freespace or Halo.
I
want
Freespace
3
I want to know what happened to Bosch. I want to know why the shivans nuked capella. I want to know what the Shivans are.
I want the truth!
And if i have to have a crap game to get questions that have haunted me for years, fine.
K. I made this game (http://www.astercity.net/~jackal/pingu/pingu.org.html) and I call it FreeSpace 3. Tell me what you think.
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That's IT! Thank you, Goob!!! :D
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I
want
Freespace
3
I want the truth!
You
Are
An
Idiot
This is the truth.
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I
want
Freespace
3
(http://omglol.kerrolisaa.com/1/5081.jpg)
You have failed. The truth is that there shall not be an FS3. Ever. Or at least it is highly unlikely that there would be one. Now be quiet and play FreeSpaces 1, 2 and Open.
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I would rather let my imagination run wild, and see what others have come up with, than have some terrible piece of junk thrown together to force a canonical answer onto me.
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I would rather let my imagination run wild, and see what others have come up with, than have some terrible piece of junk thrown together to force a canonical answer onto me.
Aye. Canon is canon, but it is not wrong for people to vision their own stories, continuing on the events of the Capella incident. It is a driving force behind the whole FS scene we have now. With no "actual" conclusion to the story, people are encouraged to present their own theories in the form of mods/campaigns. If we were presented with an actual FS3... it just wouldn't work anymore.
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I would rather let my imagination run wild, and see what others have come up with, than have some terrible piece of junk thrown together to force a canonical answer onto me.
Quoted because it's the mother****ing truth, said concisely and clearly. :yes:
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I would rather let my imagination run wild, and see what others have come up with, than have some terrible piece of junk thrown together to force a canonical answer onto me.
Aye. Canon is canon, but it is not wrong for people to vision their own stories, continuing on the events of the Capella incident. It is a driving force behind the whole FS scene we have now. With no "actual" conclusion to the story, people are encouraged to present their own theories in the form of mods/campaigns. If we were presented with an actual FS3... it just wouldn't work anymore.
I don't see how it would destrroy the FS modding scene. The modding scene existed before FS2 (starting from FS1) and would if anything explode after a hypothetical FS3 because of a newbie influx. People dedicated to their sequel projects for FS2 would ignore the canon continuity and continue on, acknowledging that their campaign violates FS3 canon.
Large parts of "FS3" are pretty much foretold, including the return to Earth. BETAC would likely make an Earth-GTVA war inevitable as BETAC leaves no room for an independent Sol System. The Shivans came twice during periods of major galactic conflict, and would most likely show up again during this war. Therefore, you'll get something at least vaguely reminiscent of Inferno or Blue Planet, except it might not have a procession of increasingly large megaships or rambling spiritual woo-woo philosophy.
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Large parts of "FS3" are pretty much foretold, including the return to Earth. BETAC would likely make an Earth-GTVA war inevitable as BETAC leaves no room for an independent Sol System. The Shivans came twice during periods of major galactic conflict, and would most likely show up again during this war. Therefore, you'll get something at least vaguely reminiscent of Inferno or Blue Planet, except it might not have a procession of increasingly large megaships or rambling spiritual woo-woo philosophy.
lol... :lol: IIRC, BP had megaships too.
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you know I found out about freespace while searching for descent. I would have never known about it otherwise.
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lol... :lol: IIRC, BP had megaships too.
Yes, but only in one mission, and nothing like what we've seen from Inferno.
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I want the truth!
(http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg)
You can't handle the truth!
...erm.
Carry on. :nervous:
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W00t! 1188.9!!
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I would rather let my imagination run wild, and see what others have come up with, than have some terrible piece of junk thrown together to force a canonical answer onto me.
Aye. Canon is canon, but it is not wrong for people to vision their own stories, continuing on the events of the Capella incident. It is a driving force behind the whole FS scene we have now. With no "actual" conclusion to the story, people are encouraged to present their own theories in the form of mods/campaigns. If we were presented with an actual FS3... it just wouldn't work anymore.
I don't see how it would destrroy the FS modding scene. The modding scene existed before FS2 (starting from FS1) and would if anything explode after a hypothetical FS3 because of a newbie influx. People dedicated to their sequel projects for FS2 would ignore the canon continuity and continue on, acknowledging that their campaign violates FS3 canon.
How many people are going to be interested in building or playing a campaign which isn't valid in canon? A massive part of the interest in Post Capella campaigns is getting a perspective on what 'happened' after Capella, what impact events had, what happened with all the loose ends. Interest would inevitably dwindle when people know what happened.
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I personally believe that the Great FS series storyline cannot, much less, Will not be concluded in FS3. I think they will solve some, but open or continue others. The HLP campaigns will continue to live, plus we will have more things to write about. Plenty people will play the campaigns that are non cannical because of their quality.
But i would love a FS3, and i think as they are trying to MAKE money, they wont **** up the storyline.
So keep sending emails about FS3 and lets go get it.
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Question is would people want Freespace 3, and have it be a crappy game, when it would potentially kill FSOpen? What would the release of a newer better game do to the modding community?
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Question is would people want Freespace 3, and have it be a crappy game, when it would potentially kill FSOpen? What would the release of a newer better game do to the modding community?
That everyone moves on to FS3 and make their mods for that one. And those who do not have any reason to upgrade their computers stick to FS2...
But what the heck. I just want :V: to make their own mod...
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I'm a proud Conflict owner too.
Londoner by trade, I'm in all honesty not that big a descent fan. (hence the obvious lack of capitalisation)
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Necro
You can all certainly handle what derek smart would have made.
(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/31/freespace3ib9.png)
The promotional sticker says it all.
EDIT:not necro at all, i thought april was a month back and it's actually april now.
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EDIT:not necro at all, i thought april was a month back and it's actually april now.
I was gonna say...
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Any updates or a date, or a specified which desent series. Desent: desent or Desent:F reesace?
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There's only one Descent series and it is the Descent series. In FreeSpace, the prefix Descent was only used to avoid legal issues.
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But taking all the typos into account, you have to admit that Freespace is pretty Decent in it's own right. Especially all the cannon champagnes, though Silent Throat is a bit lame and Dereklict is in my opinion much better than that...
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But taking all the typos into account, u haev 2 admit that Freespace is pretty Decent in its own rite. Especially all the cannon champagnes, though Silent Throat is a bit lame and Dereklict is in my opinion much better then that...
Fix0red :lol:
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But taking all the typos into account, you have to admit that Freespace is pretty Decent in it's own right. Especially all the cannon champagnes, though Silent Throat is a bit lame and Dereklict is in my opinion much better than that...
Ooh, a champagne cannon! I dare someone to design such a weapon of mass intoxication, to be used in-game.
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I want one :( but the ammo would get nicked by all you bosch beer addicts.
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Got to break out the non-alcoholic champagne for all the young'in's here. What would there parents think if they're kids were messing around with near cannon champagnes?
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K. I made this game (http://www.astercity.net/~jackal/pingu/pingu.org.html) and I call it FreeSpace 3. Tell me what you think.
OT, but I made 296.6, was anyone able to get higher than that? xD (on Pingu original.. pingu 5 is (http://i26.tinypic.com/241ujwh_th.png) (http://i26.tinypic.com/241ujwh.png) )
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(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/9091/crapcg6.th.png) (http://img175.imageshack.us/my.php?image=crapcg6.png)
Idk i got pretty far on pingu 5 after i drank a pitcher of guinness. I don't quite like those champagnes.
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Yeti sports is all i played for my last week of work back in 06........
*flexes mouse muscles in anticipation of a high score*
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I think this has outlived it's usefulness...