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Title: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 19, 2009, 07:50:33 am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090618/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_dead_fly

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The group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants the flyswatter in chief to try taking a more humane attitude the next time he's bedeviled by a fly in the White House.

PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.

"We support compassion even for the most curious, smallest and least sympathetic animals," PETA spokesman Bruce Friedrich said Wednesday. "We believe that people, where they can be compassionate, should be, for all animals."


I have lots of respect for real anti-animal cruelty groups but PETA really do need to shut the **** up if this is the kind of crap they come up with.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: ssmit132 on June 19, 2009, 08:07:23 am
I usually try to extradite bugs and spiders etc. out of the house unharmed, but that's my personal choice. I wouldn't really go around telling people off for squishing a few flies or something. :)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Turambar on June 19, 2009, 08:18:11 am
I don't like to kill bugs, but they sneak up on me and I react without thinking. D:

(this is iamzack, obviously, as Turambar and his family regularly slaughter animals for fun)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mongoose on June 19, 2009, 01:02:57 pm
Yes, PETA, eradicating a disease-carrier that is non-sentient in every sense of the word is a crime worse than murder.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: JGZinv on June 19, 2009, 01:26:31 pm
Stock pile RAID while you can!  :lol:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Angelus on June 19, 2009, 01:34:23 pm
I don't like killing small creatures like bugs and flys, no matter how icky they are.
I leave that to my cat. She don't like "intruders" in "her" territory, they all end up as small snack. I guess that's the natural order, and my conscience is unstressed. :P

The only small bug i wouldn't mind if it would dissapear forever from the face of the earth are ticks.
I hate those frakkers.

PETA exaggerated a bit here, that's somewhat to say it as polite as possible, stupid.

Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mobius on June 19, 2009, 01:37:31 pm
I used to feed ants with flies...

I liked having anthills under my control when I was little. :nervous:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: BengalTiger on June 19, 2009, 01:40:19 pm
If it's a bee/spider/moth/beetle/snail (I get these on my driveway sometimes)/other little pretty harmless/usefull creature, I generally catch it and throw out of the house (driveway).

For everything else, I have my airsoft gun, an M4 replica with a reflex sight.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 19, 2009, 01:47:15 pm
If it's a spider or bee or something I'll put it outside or whatever. Mosquitos and black flies are dead once they enter engagement range.

PETA needs to get a head-check.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: StarSlayer on June 19, 2009, 01:50:59 pm
I'm happier the President has the speed and hand eye coordination to nail the little bastard.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Scotty on June 19, 2009, 02:07:34 pm
I will never suffer a White Hornet to live.  Those things are just plain nasty.  Anything else usually gets a pardon.  Unless it bites me, then its dead.

EDIT:  Oh, and these things too.  I hate these bugs.

(http://www.whatsthatbug.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/soldier_beetle_ppho.jpg)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: watsisname on June 19, 2009, 02:09:51 pm
I'm happier the President has the speed and hand eye coordination to nail the little bastard.
:lol:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 19, 2009, 02:10:07 pm
Longhorn beetles. Ugh.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Angelus on June 19, 2009, 02:12:50 pm
I'm happier the President has the speed and hand eye coordination to nail the little bastard.

Even if not, he has a lot of armed body guards and, if necessary the entire army of the U.S. to shoot those flys out of his kitchen. :P

Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mobius on June 19, 2009, 03:15:40 pm
EDIT:  Oh, and these things too.  I hate these bugs.

(http://www.whatsthatbug.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/soldier_beetle_ppho.jpg)

Isn't that a firefly? They're nice and fragile, why would you hate them?

I passed near a handful of them a few hours ago (bicycle time). They're not annoying...
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 19, 2009, 03:17:17 pm
That's a Brown Spruce Longhorn Beetle, native to Japan. They've been wreaking havoc on spruce and pine forests, especially in Nova Scotia.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mobius on June 19, 2009, 03:20:46 pm
Interesting. It definitely looks like a firefly. :eek:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Scotty on June 19, 2009, 03:29:06 pm
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That's a Brown Spruce Longhorn Beetle

 :wtf:  I looked it up in order to post it here, and that is a Soldier Beetle.

And yes, that thing is related to the firefly, but it doesn't light up.  Those things bite.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Blue Lion on June 19, 2009, 03:54:23 pm
I watched the video of it and someone I knew said "Watch, PETA is gonna be pissed" and sure enough.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: StarSlayer on June 19, 2009, 03:55:01 pm
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That's a Brown Spruce Longhorn Beetle

 :wtf:  I looked it up in order to post it here, and that is a Soldier Beetle.

And yes, that thing is related to the firefly, but it doesn't light up.  Those things bite.
(http://canadaforests.nrcan.gc.ca/images/8334)

this is the longhorn
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mobius on June 19, 2009, 03:56:46 pm
A female longhorn, I suppose. Males have big horns.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Snail on June 19, 2009, 04:05:15 pm
The thing is, you're probably going to kill a considerably larger number of bugs while driving than by consciously killing the individual critters. Should driving be banned as well?
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: TrashMan on June 19, 2009, 04:46:50 pm
The only bugs I kill are parasitic ones or germ carrier....that includes mosquitoes, coackroaches, fleas and flies.

But really.. PETA has gone insane.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 19, 2009, 05:37:34 pm
Gone? They've been this stupid right from the start.

People seem to equate them with other anti-cruelty charities like the RSPCA but they're nothing of the kind. PETA's goal is, and always has been "the total liberation of animals from humanity's oppression" that includes the more common objections (animal cruelty, commercial whaling etc), the fringe ones (anti vivisection for testing of medicine, heavy promotion of the vegan lifestyle)  and the downright strange (Putting more animals to sleep than other rescue shelters do, equating factory farming with concentration camps or slavery, attempting to ban the ownership of pets and even guide dogs for the blind).
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mobius on June 19, 2009, 05:50:21 pm
...not to mention the fact that they amazingly earn money thanks to their "ethical battles".
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: BloodEagle on June 19, 2009, 06:27:48 pm
/me doesn't consider flies to be animals.

And, really, PETA should be more concerned with this (http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/05/06/29/how_many_insect_parts_and_rodent_hairs_are_allowed_in_your_food.htm)* than a single fly.

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Here's an idea, someone (*wink-wink, nudge-nudge*) should release a few thousand roaches inside of PETA's HQ. I wonder how long it would take for the poison to start flowing.  ;7

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*If I could navigate the FDA's... arduous website, then I would link to the statistics themselves, rather than that less-than-reputable-looking site. :/
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 20, 2009, 01:04:29 am
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 20, 2009, 01:39:53 am
...not to mention the fact that they amazingly earn money thanks to their "ethical battles".

That did spark a thought in my head. Guess who makes and sells the Katcha Bug? :rolleyes:

Yep, this is a massive marketing stunt to sell a product PETA sell on their website.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: mister J on June 20, 2009, 02:46:56 am
I'm impressed Obama had the hand speed to catch the fly. I can barely kill one without a swatter. Mosquitoes are easier to kill with bare hands. I bet he'd always be the first guy to buzz in on quiz shows or something.

There's a nifty item that's being sold here where I live, it's shaped like a tennis racket but actually acts like a portable mosquito/insect killer. You push a button and it gives off an electric current that fries the little insects. The thing's either powered by battery or you plug it in and recharge it. If the juice is running low, the current isn't strong enough to kill the insects, but enough to stun them, like an insect taser. Then you can step on them while they're writhing on the ground.

Yep, I hate mosquitos. They gave me Dengue Fever when I was 5 so I kinda have a grudge.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Grizzly on June 20, 2009, 02:56:35 am
I usually try to extradite bugs and spiders etc. out of the house unharmed, but that's my personal choice. I wouldn't really go around telling people off for squishing a few flies or something. :)

I do that most of the time, too. Although once, a spider bited me (similar to mosquito bite, it itches). So I killed it.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: TrashMan on June 20, 2009, 05:36:43 am
I sometimes thoroughly enjoy bug hunting, like sometimes waiting next to a garbage container outside and using a fly swatter on each one that lands. You could make a game out of it. Fat (pregnant) flies are worth 5 points while small ones are worthy 1. I don't make points out of it but one could do that. It is also fun to cut slugs with scissors or clippers. I recall putting a praymantis on my train set when I was about 8 and putting a lighter below a fly and spider a few times.

neagtive points earned.

If you gotta kill ANYTHING, do it fast and as painless as possible.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Snail on June 20, 2009, 05:41:54 am
There's a nifty item that's being sold here where I live, it's shaped like a tennis racket but actually acts like a portable mosquito/insect killer. You push a button and it gives off an electric current that fries the little insects. The thing's either powered by battery or you plug it in and recharge it. If the juice is running low, the current isn't strong enough to kill the insects, but enough to stun them, like an insect taser. Then you can step on them while they're writhing on the ground.
Oh I used to have one of those! Much fun, especially using it on humans. :nervous:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: portej05 on June 20, 2009, 05:49:49 am
Oh I used to have one of those! Much fun, especially using it on humans. :nervous:

owowowowowow - I remember get a shock from 240V once - that hurt.
The Vandegraf generator hurt as well (NEVER let go before it's been earthed).
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: ssmit132 on June 20, 2009, 06:32:10 am
I do that most of the time, too. Although once, a spider bited me (similar to mosquito bite, it itches). So I killed it.
Oh yes, I remember once in year 8 I caught some bug in the process of stinging/biting me. That hurt when I pulled it off and killed it.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 20, 2009, 06:40:03 am
We should play a game of YOU MUST DIE with flies and mosquitoes.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 20, 2009, 07:15:24 am
I'm glad I started this thread. Now we know who to watch out for when the murders start. :p
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Angelus on June 20, 2009, 07:26:46 am
*thinks about pointing PETA to this thread...muhahahahaha :P
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Nuke on June 20, 2009, 07:53:19 am
/me quietly awaits deer season
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Hippo on June 20, 2009, 08:19:23 am
http://travelinglight.professionaltravelguide.com/2009/06/peta-asks-phish-to-change-name-to-sea.html

enjoy
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Rapsodius on June 20, 2009, 09:10:52 am
I'm impressed Obama had the hand speed to catch the fly. I can barely kill one without a swatter. Mosquitoes are easier to kill with bare hands. I bet he'd always be the first guy to buzz in on quiz shows or something.

Actually, perhaps the fly was 'stuned'. Happens rarely, but sometimes they fly slower and they're easier to catch.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: MR_T3D on June 20, 2009, 09:53:32 am
why all this disdain to my favoorite group :(
I love
People
Eating
Tasty
Animals
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Sushi on June 20, 2009, 10:01:37 am
http://travelinglight.professionaltravelguide.com/2009/06/peta-asks-phish-to-change-name-to-sea.html

enjoy

You may also enjoy:
http://www.peta.org/Sea_Kittens/book.asp

Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 20, 2009, 10:24:35 am
I'm glad I started this thread. Now we know who to watch out for when the murders start. :p

Hey, we do it for the greater good. :drevil:

/me quietly awaits deer season

:wtf:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Rodo on June 20, 2009, 10:55:03 am
 :lol: hilarious... those fellows on PETA really don't know how to spend their free time.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: ComradeChernobyl on June 20, 2009, 11:57:55 am
Guess I'm a bit late, but eh. Generally, I let bugs live... unless they are poisonous or parasitic. I'm somewhat allergic to biting insects, so there is no mercy for their kind, particularly in the case of a nest on my house. Otherwise, shooing is in order.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 20, 2009, 12:35:46 pm
I'm somewhat allergic to biting insects
Fun fact (as opposed to being a douchebag and correcting you) we all are allergic to bug bites, an allergy is an over reaction to a chemical introduced into the body. The ones who aren't allergic are the exception, not the norm.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Snail on June 20, 2009, 12:39:48 pm
I'm impressed Obama had the hand speed to catch the fly. I can barely kill one without a swatter. Mosquitoes are easier to kill with bare hands. I bet he'd always be the first guy to buzz in on quiz shows or something.

Actually, perhaps the fly was 'stuned'. Happens rarely, but sometimes they fly slower and they're easier to catch.
For a second I read that as stoned.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 20, 2009, 01:47:49 pm
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mongoose on June 20, 2009, 02:38:56 pm
Speaking of that. I don't see any reason to let a bug go unless killing or catching it is messier and more trouble than letting it fly out by opening the door. I sometimes thoroughly enjoy bug hunting, like sometimes waiting next to a garbage container outside and using a fly swatter on each one that lands. You could make a game out of it. Fat (pregnant) flies are worth 5 points while small ones are worthy 1. I don't make points out of it but one could do that. It is also fun to cut slugs with scissors or clippers. I recall putting a praymantis on my train set when I was about 8 and putting a lighter below a fly and spider a few times.
I'm all for killing the pesky sorts of bugs and all, but I feel like some of this borders on cruelty, sentience or not.  Spiders are all about killing the more loathsome forms of vermin, so if they're not two inches long and getting right in my face, I try to leave them alone.  And mantises...they're just awesome, and again, they're all about killing other bugs.  Annoying critters like gnats and mosquitoes are one thing, but I'd rather enlist the help of the things that prey on them than shoot myself in the foot by bringing my foot down on them.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 20, 2009, 02:43:42 pm
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Snail on June 20, 2009, 04:29:43 pm
Usually the only thing stopping me from killing bugs is that it gets clean stuff dirty.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 20, 2009, 05:07:09 pm
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 20, 2009, 05:11:55 pm
/me quietly awaits deer season

:wtf:
Deer season. Shooting deer.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: achtung on June 20, 2009, 11:07:28 pm
I kill insects that are considered pests, everything else I release or ignore.  I love having spiders around.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 21, 2009, 02:01:05 am
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 21, 2009, 02:26:04 am
I kill insects that are considered pests, everything else I release or ignore.  I love having spiders around.

Same here. I let lizards and spiders run about my room if I see them. Mosquitoes, moths, beetles and cockroaches, on the other hand...
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Liberator on June 21, 2009, 04:18:08 am
This reminded me the situation in California.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,519818,00.html
This is ridiculous.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 21, 2009, 04:48:24 am
That's not even even in the same league as this topic.

Go make your own topic if you want to repeat Sean Hannity's bull**** on this forum.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Liberator on June 21, 2009, 05:56:08 am
Roger that, farmers < fish.

BTW, the topic is less about PETA than it is pig-headed, eco-zealots.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 21, 2009, 07:55:53 am
Noooo... Have you seriously looked into PETA at all? THere have ben instances in which the higher-ups (Read: The President of PETA) have vindicated the firebombing of facilities dedicated to animal testing.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: TrashMan on June 21, 2009, 08:46:20 am
Assuming that it has awareness. Just because it responds to pain doesn't mean it is aware. It is just an automated response in this case. It can't know that it is there. It is too simple of a life form. Even if a life form is complex and has what we call intelligence, it doesn't necessarily mean it is aware. My computer has a lot of data and robots have sensory input with data, but it doesn't know it is there and has no awareness, for example. So I feel there must be more to consciousness than just a brain, a body, and intelligence.

Err on the side of caution.

Assuming something has no real worth is ALWAYS worse than assuming something has more worth.



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And there is no positive or negative points since an internet debate is not a board game.

There are negative or positive points to peoples oppinions about you.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 21, 2009, 10:42:06 am
Roger that, farmers < fish.

BTW, the topic is less about PETA than it is pig-headed, eco-zealots.

Don't try to tell me what a thread I started is about.

I'm not in the mood today to have someone put words in my mouth when I tell them not to hijack my thread. This thread is about PETA because of lot of people don't understand what that organisation actually stands for. That's something important because they make a lot of money and then use it to finance the legal defence of criminals.

The article you linked to on the other hand is likely to be controversial and has absolutely nothing to do with either PETA or animal cruelty. If you want to discuss it, get your own damn thread. 
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 21, 2009, 11:22:00 am
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Snail on June 21, 2009, 11:24:49 am
If I started caring about how people thought about me I wouldn't be able to sleep.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: zookeeper on June 21, 2009, 11:49:17 am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090618/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_dead_fly

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The group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants the flyswatter in chief to try taking a more humane attitude the next time he's bedeviled by a fly in the White House.

PETA is sending President Barack Obama a Katcha Bug Humane Bug Catcher, a device that allows users to trap a house fly and then release it outside.

"We support compassion even for the most curious, smallest and least sympathetic animals," PETA spokesman Bruce Friedrich said Wednesday. "We believe that people, where they can be compassionate, should be, for all animals."


I have lots of respect for real anti-animal cruelty groups but PETA really do need to shut the **** up if this is the kind of crap they come up with.

Huh?

Obama kills a fly. Reporter calls PETA and asks what they think about it. A spokesman says that they support compassion even for flies and that they'll send Obama a bug catcher just for laughs, and that's "crap"? What would or could have any other anti-animal cruelty group done in that situation? Say they don't care about flies at all or just simply refuse to comment out of fear that someone will make it look like they got pissed off by Obama killing a fly even when they actually didn't?

The only thing about what PETA did in this particular case that stinks is shipping around a rather pointless piece of plastic. I can't see why or how being compassionate towards even insects or answering (which are pretty much the only other two possibilities) when asked would stink.

And hi, I'm new here.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Snail on June 21, 2009, 11:55:14 am
Nice first post.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 21, 2009, 11:55:51 am
:welcome:

The thing is, they're doing it all for publicity. The thing they sent him is PETA-Made and they're shamelessly promiting themselves. PETA is an extremist group, they lie on their page (See: Seal Hunting), they promote extremist activities such as firebombing, and they start ridiculous publicity stunts such as the Obama thing to get press coverage, when hey could be tackling real-life issues in a rational manner. Have you even seen the woman who governs the organization? She is mindblowingly naive and stupid.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 21, 2009, 12:00:55 pm
Let's just say I'm rather suspicious about PETA's claim that the news agencies approached them rather than the other way around.

Given the amount of attention whoring they do over trivially stupid stuff (like telling the Pet Shop Boys to change their name) I wouldn't put it past them for this to have been their idea not some unknown journalists.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mobius on June 21, 2009, 12:10:59 pm
:welcomesilver:

Welcome to the HLPBB!!! :D

I agree with colecampbell666 - they almost certainly did it in order to promote themselves. Obama is a relevant person all over the word, so using him to promote the "Dicta Peta" was too much convenient.

Karajorma has summed up the problem with those guys, and I wholeheartedly agree with him. People trust them because they fight for an apparently good ideal, the protection and the preservation of animals. No one really cares about how they steal

I'd like to say that PETA is not alone. Here in Italy we have the LAV (Lega Anti-Vivisezione = Anti-Vivisection League) which carries on with comparable oddities. I found out what they really do and think by reading their own magazines... :ick:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: zookeeper on June 21, 2009, 12:16:03 pm
The thing is, they're doing it all for publicity.
Doing what? Answering a reporter, posting a more elaborate statement on their site when everyone is asking them about it or sending Obama a free catcher for publicity?

Quote from: colecampbell666
The thing they sent him is PETA-Made and they're shamelessly promiting themselves.
So what? That's exactly the same as if Obama found, say, a paddle under his chair during an interview but no canoe, and then some canoe-maker would send him a canoe to go with his new-found paddle, obviously for the purposes of shamelessly promoting themselves and their canoes. Who cares?

Quote from: colecampbell666
PETA is an extremist group, they lie on their page (See: Seal Hunting), they promote extremist activities such as firebombing,
Sure. Yet that has no relevance to my post.

Quote from: colecampbell666
and they start ridiculous publicity stunts such as the Obama thing to get press coverage, when hey could be tackling real-life issues in a rational manner.
PETA didn't start this whole incredibly stupid ruckus about the fly, and absolutely nowhere have I seen any indication that they would have. If you have proof to the contrary, then please, share it. No one else has so far.

Quote from: colecampbell666
Have you even seen the woman who governs the organization? She is mindblowingly naive and stupid.
I haven't, and frankly I don't care to.

Quote from: karajorma
Let's just say I'm rather suspicious about PETA's claim that the news agencies approached them rather than the other way around.

Given the amount of attention whoring they do over trivially stupid stuff (like telling the Pet Shop Boys to change their name) I wouldn't put it past them for this to have been their idea not some unknown journalists.
Sure, that's fair enough then. I might be a bit suspicious of that myself.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: htnk on June 21, 2009, 12:26:14 pm
So... PETA's minions would do nothing but cruise the internet whole the time looking for every board wherever someone dares to criticize their organization and then they strike... :eek:

sorry for this post but it just makes me wonder how people (who probably don't even know what this forum is all about) suddenly appear out of nowhere just to write their only posts in topics like this one ...  :wtf:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Snail on June 21, 2009, 12:33:47 pm
PETA kids is great!
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 21, 2009, 12:35:58 pm
Stop stealing my lines, gastropod.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: zookeeper on June 21, 2009, 02:41:11 pm
So... PETA's minions would do nothing but cruise the internet whole the time looking for every board wherever someone dares to criticize their organization and then they strike... :eek:

sorry for this post but it just makes me wonder how people (who probably don't even know what this forum is all about) suddenly appear out of nowhere just to write their only posts in topics like this one ...  :wtf:
Please take some kind of an english class, as I suspect you don't really understand the rather simple and straightforward english I've been using here. I can't think of any other explanations for your silly reaction (or at least not ones which wouldn't be considered rude to suggest).

Of course, if I'm wrong and you actually have something rational to say, please do! I'm always up for an argument, if that's what you'd prefer instead of hilarious exchanges of random fallacies.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Scotty on June 21, 2009, 07:14:30 pm
Is anyone else struck by the fact that the new guy's name is zookeeper, and he only registered to post on this thread so far?

EDIT: Yep.

So... PETA's minions would do nothing but cruise the internet whole the time looking for every board wherever someone dares to criticize their organization and then they strike... :eek:

sorry for this post but it just makes me wonder how people (who probably don't even know what this forum is all about) suddenly appear out of nowhere just to write their only posts in topics like this one ...  :wtf:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Rhymes on June 21, 2009, 07:17:25 pm
/me Looks at zookeeper suspiciously
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 21, 2009, 08:34:22 pm
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: swashmebuckle on June 21, 2009, 11:15:58 pm
Zookeeper has been helping out FotG with sound effects for the past month or so; he's not here just to crack down on behalf of his fuzzy masters or anything.  Please decrease homeland paranoia level to orange.  Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Swashmebuckle, PETA Gestapo
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: MP-Ryan on June 21, 2009, 11:55:51 pm
Please take some kind of an english class, as I suspect you don't really understand the rather simple and straightforward english I've been using here.

Insulting people is generally not a good way to make your point in a civil conversation.

As for criticizing people's English skills, I would be very careful about ensuring your own communications are absolutely correct before criticizing anyone else.  As you missed two obvious capitalizations you really don't have a leg to stand on, even if your point was actually to suggest he mind his reading ability rather than a not-so-subtle attempt to just cut him down.  Consequently, it actually made you look like the jackass, not him.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Spicious on June 22, 2009, 12:12:12 am
I wonder what sort of plastic those bug catchers are made of.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 22, 2009, 12:32:51 am
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: General Battuta on June 22, 2009, 12:41:59 am
Gentlemen, let's be gentlemen. Zookeeper has been proven a productive and excellent member of our community, not a PETA spy, and everyone's English has been well-defended.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: ssmit132 on June 22, 2009, 02:38:09 am
You would think that everyone on the forum has FS or at least has played FS, but I guess that isn't the case.
We know that Zack doesn't. :p
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: zookeeper on June 22, 2009, 03:57:10 am
Please take some kind of an english class

He speaks very good English. I have talked to and helped many people with English who have far worse English abilities. You can be quite smart without knowing English. Who says you have to speak English well to be smart? Some people can learn it easier than others. Maybe you don't know that it is one of the most difficult languages to learn. It is like me trying to learn to read Japanese kanji, katakana, or hiragana. I can't do it. It seems impossible for me. If someone is trying to study English and lives in an English speaking country, then as long as they make an effort to learn, then no problem, since they should learn it if they live in an English speaking country. But don't be too hard on them. I like talking to them and actually prefer them to people here.

I had a couple girls (love relationships) who were from other countries who speak it as a second language and I helped them and had patience most of the time, and I liked helping and teaching them. I also have talked to many who speak it as a second language. When I talk to some girls online and they don't speak perfect English, it is kind of cute. You just need to learn some patience with people who don't have it as their first language and don't stop talking to them just because they don't speak the language perfectly. Foreigners really like someone like that who has patience for them, if you know people who are from other countries, that is. Maybe you don't know how hard it is to learn a second language, but I know.
Ahem, are we still talking about this same post here?

So... PETA's minions
:doubt:

would do nothing but cruise the internet whole the time
:doubt:

looking for every board wherever someone dares to criticize their organization
:doubt:

and then they strike... :eek:
:doubt:

sorry for this post but it just makes me wonder how people (who probably don't even know what this forum is all about) suddenly appear out of nowhere just to write their only posts in topics like this one ...  :wtf:

Point was, he was arriving to completely bogus and pointless conclusions from what I said (and didn't say), which really has only two notable possible explanations: either he actually meant to write irrational, pointless nonsense or he just made the very understandable and human mistake and didn't quite comprehend what I wrote, which wouldn't happen unless he'd be somewhat unproficient in English (thank you, MP-Ryan!). I was merely trying to be polite and suggest it was the latter.

In hindsight, "reading comprehension" would have been a whole lot better choice of words and more descriptive of what I meant than "english" was. I hope this clears up any confusion?
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 22, 2009, 04:17:44 am
Okay, first everyone needs to calm down.

Second accusing someone of being a plant for PETA is rather silly given that you can easily check the date Zookeeper joined on simply by clicking on his name.

Thirdly, if someone does flame you in a silly fashion like that, use the report to moderator button and we'll deal with it.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Angelus on June 22, 2009, 10:09:59 am
I wonder what sort of plastic those bug catchers are made of.


[massive exaggeration , possible truth]
Chances are that is made of the unhealthy kind. :P
Made in a factory that doesn't met international standards for environmental protection.
A industrial complex that depletes toxic chemical substances into a nearby river and kills all the animals that live in there or that feed on the animals that live in there.
People get sick from eating the fish out of the river, or getting chronic diseases.
A factory that releases toxic fumes in the air, poisoning everything in the vicinity.

For what? To save a few flies??

[/massive exaggeration ,possible truth] :P :D
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 22, 2009, 01:54:10 pm
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mika on June 22, 2009, 03:41:50 pm
I surely hope that the alleged original article is false.

Nevertheless PETA has been a pain in the arse for a long time. Too bad I have never met a PETA activist that would live that close to the nature.

Quote
Fun fact (as opposed to being a douchebag and correcting you) we all are allergic to bug bites, an allergy is an over reaction to a chemical introduced into the body. The ones who aren't allergic are the exception, not the norm.

Ahem. Depends on where you live and how often you get bitten. In Lapland they don't seem to get anything from mosquito bites, probably because of the overexposure when they were young. I do get bumps at the beginning of the summer, but nothing at the end of summer.

Besides, there have been stories in Lapland of mosquitos of size of one's hand, and that it is possible to hear them sucking [sluuuurp!] when they puncture your skin. After doing that deed, the swollen sausage proceeds flying [flap flap flap] to the nearest tree with that departed part of your skin. There they start munching that final part so that you can hear [munch munch munch munch]... while looking at you smugly.



Joking aside, I volunteer to be a guide for any substantial PETA group in the local swamp area. I get the mosquito repellant, they don't, on the grounds that it denies mosquitos their natural lunch and since I'm a heartless bastard, I don't care. Actually, come to think of it, I could do it without the repellant also.

And wouldn't it be a nice idea to teach those poor African kids how to use those catcha thingies? Preferably in the AIDS contested area, since there has to be a lot of bugs.

Mika
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Aardwolf on June 23, 2009, 08:46:00 am
The only good bug is a dead bug.

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/sevenarts/cinema/starshiptroopers1.jpg)

Sorry, couldn't help it
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: karajorma on June 23, 2009, 09:10:44 am
Find me the Republican who would still complain about Obama if he'd killed that bug with his bare hands. :p
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Flipside on June 23, 2009, 09:35:49 am
'It's coming straight for us!'
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 23, 2009, 10:24:30 am
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 23, 2009, 10:39:20 am
Heh. I was thinking the exact same thing. Is it that lava beetle?
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: MP-Ryan on June 23, 2009, 11:23:25 am
It looks like it is from that movie "Star Troopers". But I'm not sure.

You are correct.  They refer to it as a "tanker."
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Scotty on June 23, 2009, 03:20:40 pm
That dialogue reference was intentional?  Excellent choice.

For anyone else who has seen the movie, do you have any idea how Rico stays on its back long enough to plant the grenade? :confused:
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Snail on June 23, 2009, 03:25:48 pm
That dialogue reference was intentional?  Excellent choice.

For anyone else who has seen the movie, do you have any idea how Rico stays on its back long enough to plant the grenade? :confused:
Plot suction boots.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Scotty on June 23, 2009, 03:31:08 pm
Made of handwavium.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Aardwolf on June 23, 2009, 06:51:41 pm
Well he was pretty much standing on it shooting to make a hole in it, then he grabbed onto that. I read somewhere that Casper Van Dien chipped a tooth filming that stunt (i.e. without a double).
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 23, 2009, 10:14:30 pm
Dizzy had a much easier time with a second tanker. She just threw the grenade at it, and then it ate it. :wtf:

And then she was killed by a warrior bug.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 23, 2009, 10:32:50 pm
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Mongoose on June 23, 2009, 11:49:10 pm
Blame the shower scene. :p
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 24, 2009, 12:21:01 am
Blame nationalism. One of the guys working on the first Starship Troopers film was born in Singapore.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: BloodEagle on June 24, 2009, 12:55:47 pm
Blame the shower scene. :p

The fornication scene (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathBySex) is a more likely candidate for blame. And, when in doubt, consult the Sorting Algorithm Of Mortality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SortingAlgorithmOfMortality).
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: MP-Ryan on June 24, 2009, 09:50:40 pm
Blame the shower scene. :p

The fornication scene (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathBySex) is a more likely candidate for blame. And, when in doubt, consult the Sorting Algorithm Of Mortality (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SortingAlgorithmOfMortality).

I'm beginning to think that linking to TVTropes should be an automatic 24-hour ban - everytime someone does it, I lose a minimum 30 minutes of my life. =)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on June 24, 2009, 10:22:04 pm
I'm still trying to learn not to click on those links. ;)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: High Max on June 24, 2009, 11:30:27 pm
;-)
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: Scotty on June 25, 2009, 12:21:47 am
 :hopping:  Dang it!  TVTropes, stealing another hour of my life.

Quote from: MP-Ryan
I'm beginning to think that linking to TVTropes should be an automatic 24-hour ban - everytime someone does it, I lose a minimum 30 minutes of my life. =)

This.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: BrotherBryon on June 25, 2009, 07:08:10 pm
This stunt makes me want to get a bug zapper for my deck that much more. Every bug that it kills would be essentially giving PETA the finger.
Title: Re: More proof that PETA need to shut up
Post by: colecampbell666 on June 25, 2009, 08:13:49 pm
I love those things. Although they're better on children than bugs.