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Title: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on August 04, 2009, 07:59:13 pm
After deciding that playing on the default easy setting was getting old, I decided that the main campaign would be better enjoyed on the "Medium" setting... Certainly this is mockable by some, but I just don't care...

This brings the main objective of the thread to light: HOLY BACON [if not applicable, insert different exclamatory here]!!!

To date the hardest missions to fly in the main campaign I've identified are (a.) the first mission of the first SOC loop and (b.) the mission in which you must destroy 2/4 of the Sathanas' beam weapons. I'm commenting on point (a.)...

On easy this mission is still not that easy... up the ante one bit and decide the Myrmidon is (a.) fo' FOOS and (b.) that the Loki is better (which is most arguable), and you may be in for a world of hurt.

An extra shield buffer goes a long way for the Loki. Surviving Taurets is one thing, but accidentally straying into the range of a Sobek-class corvette's AAAfs is a wholly different beast. If fighters, bombers, or corvettes don't kill you or the Icieni, large rocks just might...

...Good God, and Holy Bacon...

-Thaeris
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Galemp on August 04, 2009, 08:07:21 pm
Playing Judas, He Who Rides the Tiger, and Into the Lion's Den.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Mongoose on August 04, 2009, 08:44:24 pm
He Who Rides the Tiger from ST:R, definitely.  I had a literal jaw-dropper moment as soon as I figured out just what was going on. :D

And in the realm of "Missions which took ten years off my life," I'll nominate trying to get the "kill 25 turrets" bonus point on mission 15 of Procyon Insurgency.  So many restarts, so many screamed curses...
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 04, 2009, 11:28:26 pm
Procyon Insurgency m15.

Forced Entry from Blue Planet.

Keepers of Hell from the original Blue Planet (before rebalance.)

'He Who Rides the Tiger' was a pushover.  :p
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: xXGrifterXx on August 05, 2009, 12:30:55 am
Two of my favorite missions are in ST:R, the pirate mission, and the one with the Ratna. The first bombing mission in Warzone is pretty damn fun too.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 05, 2009, 04:37:47 am
Slaying Ravana and Feint, Parry, Riposte! are the hardest missions in my mind from the main FS2 campaign. The first of which probably because I never bothered to take shelter in the allied vessel, and the second because you're in a Perseus and have to get close to two Fenrises and their multitude of AAAf beams. Not healthy. Especially when all your wingmen die in like 5 seconds and leave you to bait 8 or so fighters on your own.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 05, 2009, 04:43:21 am
The second-to-last mission of Derelict gave me a level of frustration few other things have, because of a bug related to improperly-executing fire beam orders.

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And in the realm of "Missions which took ten years off my life," I'll nominate trying to get the "kill 25 turrets" bonus point on mission 15 of Procyon Insurgency.  So many restarts, so many screamed curses...

QFMFT.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: eliex on August 05, 2009, 05:05:37 am
-Certainly most of the stealth missions in Procyon Insurgency.
- Forced Entry in BP first time playing.
- Playing Judas.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: redsniper on August 05, 2009, 12:27:31 pm
Blew me apart:

Several missions in PI. Disarming the Saturn and also that last mission. :mad:
Keepers of Hell. RAAAAAAGE

Blew my mind:

Dream mission in Derelict.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Kie99 on August 05, 2009, 01:17:33 pm
Playing Judas was an absolute nightmare, the only mission that ever took me longer than that was the 3rd from last mission in FreeSpace.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Sushi on August 05, 2009, 01:25:37 pm
Most stupidly difficult mission (That shouldn't be): Slaying Ravana.

Mission that stumped me the longest: Destroying the Saturn in PI. It got much better once I learned about long-range Akhetons, though. :p

The Only Mission Gaming Experience To Ever Induce Nausea And Cause Me A Headache: Second to last mission of Transcend.
Spoiler:
between the weird currents pulling everything around funny, the rotating subspace skybox, and trying to hit and kill small, fast targets (took me something like 10 minutes on at least one of the wingmen!) I was very glad when it was over. Wouldn't have missed it for the world, though. :D

Most Memorable:
FS1 mission where you escort the transports carrying Ancients data... and the Lucifer shows up at the jump node you're headed for. Pants-crapping moment.
First time I played Apocalypse (the supernova is amazing when you don't know it's coming! :p)
Every other mission in Blue Planet
Spoiler:
Dragons in Asteroid Field Mission (a.k.a. ohcrapohcrapOHCRAPIMGONNADIE), Dream Mission, killing the Lucifer, second-to-last mission...

Derelict's
Spoiler:
Dream mission, the one where the Nyarlathotep is brought out of subspace, the one where it awakes, and the one where you destroy it.
Fortune Hunters 2259: the one where you chase down a series of Centauri transports as they flee to their base, then try to make it out alive. A real bugger to finish, but a huge blast (and very memorable).
ST:R's He Who Rides The Tiger.



Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Mongoose on August 05, 2009, 01:41:14 pm
Ooh, I have another random category.  Best FREDder compensation for a game glitch: the Derelict mission where you defend the mercenaries' Boadicea base.  "Hangar bay hologram projector," indeed.  Whoever finally takes on the ridiculous task of HTL-ing that thing has to make sure the dock point stays right where it is, just to keep that effect. :p
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Rodo on August 05, 2009, 01:50:45 pm
I just tried to play the game on insane (again)...

bet on my skills people! come on... how far did I get without getting killed? (from mission 1 without counting the trainings)
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: eliex on August 05, 2009, 02:35:25 pm
bet on my skills people! come on... how far did I get without getting killed? (from mission 1 without counting the trainings)

Let's see . . . M013? That's when the FS2MC really picks up the pace IMO.  :p
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 05, 2009, 02:39:11 pm
Hate the traitor, and Endgame, Surrender Belasarius simply for the whole Psamtik" GUNNERY CONTROL CHARGE MY LAZZOR, PWN THEM!! at the end.


Also DIVEDIVEDIVE!
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Rodo on August 05, 2009, 03:20:23 pm
bet on my skills people! come on... how far did I get without getting killed? (from mission 1 without counting the trainings)

Let's see . . . M013? That's when the FS2MC really picks up the pace IMO.  :p

less...  :nervous:
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 05, 2009, 05:19:18 pm
Oh if we're talking about mods too then I still haven't finished the last mission from PI. I must've tried it about 30 times.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Rodo on August 05, 2009, 06:06:57 pm
seems like none of you have played the aeos affair :drevil:
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: redsniper on August 05, 2009, 07:22:01 pm
I have, looooong ago.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 05, 2009, 07:25:26 pm
seems like none of you have played the aeos affair :drevil:

That's been discontinuitied. :P
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 05, 2009, 10:58:57 pm
seems like none of you have played the aeos affair :drevil:

I played through half of the first mission, so I don't think I qualify
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: eliex on August 05, 2009, 11:10:44 pm
The folder is just sitting on my root directory untouched . . . I should get to playing it eventually.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on August 05, 2009, 11:19:49 pm
...Into the Lion's Den

Perhaps the best start to a mission ever, NOT TO MENTION the massive amounts of CARNAGE you get to spread about! How many other missions are there where you can knock out two Rakshasas in one setting  ;7 ?

-Thaeris
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Rodo on August 06, 2009, 10:59:09 am
seems like none of you have played the aeos affair :drevil:

That's been discontinuitied. :P

It's been refitted by the FSCRP IIRC.. or maybe I played the old version.. anyways.. the hardest campaign I've ever played.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Mongoose on August 06, 2009, 03:24:20 pm
seems like none of you have played the aeos affair :drevil:

That's been discontinuitied. :P

It's been refitted by the FSCRP IIRC.. or maybe I played the old version.. anyways.. the hardest campaign I've ever played.
Really?  I just finally got through playing it for the first time, and there were only two or three missions that gave me significant trouble.  And I'm not exactly a top-notch pilot. :p
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Rodo on August 06, 2009, 03:25:11 pm
you played it on medium or higher?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Mongoose on August 06, 2009, 03:27:03 pm
Hell no.  I'm an Easy man all the way. :p
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Tantalus53 on August 06, 2009, 06:19:47 pm
Out of the dark, Into the night (FS1)

Pandora's Box

Monster in the Mist

(Forgets the one where you had to make a mad dash from the bastion to the Delta Serpentis -> Sol node)
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Mongoose on August 06, 2009, 07:01:35 pm
(Forgets the one where you had to make a mad dash from the bastion to the Delta Serpentis -> Sol node)
The Great Hunt :p
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Scotty on August 06, 2009, 07:08:07 pm
Really?  The Great Hunt is the name of the mission you go after the Iblis and that other Shivan Cruiser with the Lysander and the Actium.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: IronBeer on August 06, 2009, 07:40:42 pm
There are a couple old missions that were up at Volition Watch years ago, before I knew about the SCP- one is a recreation of the Battle of the Line from Bablyon 5. Never seen the show, but the mission is beyond insane.
Another one (picked this one up recently, I assume it used to be at Volition Watch as well), was a re-enactment of the first-ever Shivan assault on Ross 128.
Evangelist- perhaps FS1 was more intense first time around when I was 10, but finally taking the fight against a Shivan destroyer had a certain "Hell yeah!" feel I've never quite shaken.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on August 10, 2009, 06:53:44 pm
A great deal of Transcend. Of course this applies most effectively if you're just playing it for the first time (and are fairly inexperienced at the controls):

Spoiler:
The GTCv Generation. With your slow Herc Mk 2 and that monstrosity coming at you full power (30m/s), it's enough to make you jump. Especially given the fact that it won't hesitate to beam you if you fall within AAA beam range!

It just keeps coming, like an unstoppable force...  :shaking:

Of course, once you've played Transcend, it's not as shocking in some respects, namely the one listed above. It actually is quite difficult on several missions if you up the difficulty... an 8-on-1 dogfight has a way of not turning out well for you.

-Thaeris
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 11, 2009, 02:16:33 am
In the original draft, the Generation was aptly named Persistence. A few references to that snuck into the final campaign before I pointed them out to Ransom.

It's a pity, because the old name captured everything about it.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: eliex on August 11, 2009, 02:29:41 am
It's probably because the Deimos in the "prequel" Sync was also named Persistence giving way to repetition issues.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 11, 2009, 05:31:03 am
Missions that blew my mind ... hmmm...
- Bearbaiting (FS2; too many objectives)
- Forced Entry (BP:AoA; too many ships to worry about)
- Keepers of Hell (BP:AoA; lots of flying about to pursue attackers)
- Wonderland (JAD:SSE; didn't know if I was supposed to be protecting the gtd harbringer or the GTD Bastion-A)

Missions that blew me up:
- Argonautica (FS2 - Killed by a shockwave from a Piranha-wielding SB Nahema while flying a GVF Horus; explains why I dislike both ships now)
- Return to Babel (FS2 - Beamed by the SC Sammael; I was trying to beat the cannon's charge rate)
- The Sicilian Defense (FS2 - Beamed by the NTC Alba; I flew right between the GVCv Hykso and it in a GTB Ursa)
- Apocalypse (FS2 - Supernova'd while flying a GTF Ares; a Seraphim distracted me for ten crucial seconds, with which I could probably have made it to Vega)
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Titan on August 11, 2009, 10:10:26 am
One that really blew me up was the ITDOH Apocalypse, I stayed to ensure that triton made it out, I engaged me jump drive just before they did. I was in subspace, but apparently if a millimeter of your fin is still sticking out, you die.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Sushi on August 11, 2009, 11:05:36 am
One that really blew me up was the ITDOH Apocalypse, I stayed to ensure that triton made it out, I engaged me jump drive just before they did. I was in subspace, but apparently if a millimeter of your fin is still sticking out, you die.

Yeah, happened to me too. Seriously ticked me off, especially after such a long mission.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 11, 2009, 01:19:47 pm
Once, I died in Apocalypse because the supernova hit just as my jump hole was closing. My ship was ALREADY IN SUBSPACE, dammit! :mad:
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: da1edwin on August 11, 2009, 03:55:09 pm
Apocalypse pisses me off because the supernova warning gives you so much more time than you actually have. It starts at a minute, and when you play the FS2 campaign for the first time, it won't dawn on you to race for the Vega node for some time, and Command doesn't tell you to get the heck out until the timer says 50 sec or so. The supernova hits when the timer still has about 10 sec left, and since you will die if your warpout animation hasn't finished 100% when the shockwave animation triggers, that means hitting alt-J with less than ~17 sec left on the timer will result in death. Happened to me multiple times, so when I play that mission now I make sure I'm within about 2500 m of the node near the 12 minute mark, just to be safe.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Hades on August 11, 2009, 04:28:51 pm
Yeah, that happened to me too.

Now I just park myself at the node when the mission starts, and let my wingmen do everything else.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: da1edwin on August 11, 2009, 10:44:23 pm
Yeah, that happened to me too.

Now I just park myself at the node when the mission starts, and let my wingmen do everything else.

Doesn't work for me; I usually lose all or almost all of my wingmen in Clash of the Titans II. I also run into extreme difficulties when the two Cains and the Dragons come in, thanks to lack of wingmen. (The Vasudan Theta wing gets pulverized by the Dragons half the time, too, meaning it takes me 3 or 4 tries to pass Apocalypse every time I get to it.) I must be doing something wrong.  :lol:
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Goober5000 on August 11, 2009, 10:52:05 pm
Try to stay near the Lemnos when the Dragons arrive.  The AAA cover will help you out.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on August 11, 2009, 10:56:02 pm
When I replayed that mission on Medium, I think I died a time or two in earlier attempts, but it was never from the supernova. When I did get it (I think it was the second try), all hostiles were knocked out a few seconds before the supernova began. I was actually behind one of the Leviathans, so I was a good deal from the node. Just cranked all power to engines and let the burner rip. Did I mention I was flying the Herc 2?  :)

-Thaeris
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: eliex on August 12, 2009, 12:39:05 am
On the first-time play, it is impossible to reach to the node before the supernova starts unless you fly Interceptors, a Myrmidon or perhaps a Herc II.
Don't use the Ares if you plan to not be the selfless hero of Ending V2.  :p
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Colonol Dekker on August 12, 2009, 02:11:36 am
Bullshat. .
 
I was in a herc mk2 on my first playthrough back in 99. And I made it through, I was sticking to that corvette like a rash though as it was on medium.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: eliex on August 12, 2009, 04:01:57 am
Ah yes. Normally I would remain far from the jump node after destroying the Rakshasha near the 4th convoy that Command exhorts you to save from Seraphim bombers.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Scotty on August 12, 2009, 10:08:45 am
I have never had a problem making it to the node before the nova hits.  Then again, I play on Very Easy all the time, so I don't take that long with the bad guys.

I always take an Ares because da red onez go fasta! I like the huge payloads.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 12, 2009, 12:32:00 pm
Hey! I play on Very Easy too!

Apocalypse did teach me the hard way that increased speed CAN make a difference.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: NathanP on August 12, 2009, 02:14:39 pm
Mission that blew me up - The first mission of Aeos affair, i still get my ass handed to me on a regular basis and its a campaign I play often
Mission that blew my mind - most of BP AoA, having just played it for the first time i'm now going to replay it to get a grip on the storyline
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: da1edwin on August 12, 2009, 04:45:54 pm
Does it make a difference in gameplay (i.e. aside from the Petrarch ending videos) whether you beat the supernova or not? The game doesn't advance the campaign to "This campaign is over. To replay, create another pilot or click Restart Campaign" (not exact wording).
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Sushi on August 12, 2009, 05:11:18 pm
The cutscene is slightly different if you survive, vs if you don't.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Snail on August 12, 2009, 06:26:48 pm
Yeah, that happened to me too.

Now I just park myself at the node when the mission starts, and let my wingmen do everything else.

Doesn't work for me; I usually lose all or almost all of my wingmen in Clash of the Titans II. I also run into extreme difficulties when the two Cains and the Dragons come in, thanks to lack of wingmen. (The Vasudan Theta wing gets pulverized by the Dragons half the time, too, meaning it takes me 3 or 4 tries to pass Apocalypse every time I get to it.) I must be doing something wrong.  :lol:
AFAIK you don't actually have to protect the freighters at all, just stay alive and be near the Jump Node.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 12, 2009, 06:50:13 pm
I sort of cheat and use the Savior of Capella exploit these days. :P
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Droid803 on August 12, 2009, 07:05:29 pm
Disable the Cains?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 12, 2009, 07:18:39 pm
Disable, disarm, ignore target (otherwise the Lemnos beams them down).
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 12, 2009, 07:49:48 pm
I didn't find that mission too irritating on Insane, except for the Dragons. Had to orbit the Lemnos for a while.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: da1edwin on August 12, 2009, 08:54:00 pm
The cutscene is slightly different if you survive, vs if you don't.
Well, that much I knew. I meant if getting killed was equivalent to failing the mission. What confuses me is the campaign's refusal to advance to the "campaign over" stage. Do you get points and kills for anything you accomplish during the mission? And does your survival or death affect that?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Kosh on August 16, 2009, 09:02:13 am
Aeos Affair, I admit I had to play it on very easy, but it really was a blast, and it was the first time I was able to use Helios bombs on the Myrmidon.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: azile0 on August 18, 2009, 02:06:50 pm
FUN:

Playing Judas
Good Luck
Apocalypse
Aftermath of Vasuda Prime (escorting the Transports)
The mission in Inferno where you're trying to reclaim the Sol jump gate
Forced Entry
 
HATE:

The last mission of Deus Ex (Damn it, Goob, why?)
The last mission of ST. Silent Threat
Apocalypse (So many times I was just 500m from the node. Or jumping when the wave hit me.)
Training missions.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Goober5000 on August 19, 2009, 12:26:33 pm
The last mission of Deus Ex (Damn it, Goob, why?)
Did you read the readme?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on August 19, 2009, 09:11:15 pm
Speaking of DEM, would you mind updating the campaign with a mod.ini and an image on freespacemods.net, Goober? This is simple enough to do by oneself, yes, but it would be appreciated by the majority of the community I feel.

-Thaeris
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 20, 2009, 02:54:37 am
Oh I also really like that big mission in Inferno, you know the one. It's fakking hard but lots of fun and I really enjoyed the music.

Or even the main FS2 campaign, Bear Baiting. Not so much the Sathanas part. But attacking the Sathanas is always stressful for me at least and then finally the thing buggers off and Command is like "oh hey, don't get relaxed. We've got a Demon coming in now" and it's "whaaaaat? come on!".
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Woolie Wool on August 25, 2009, 09:16:45 am
Playing Judas, He Who Rides the Tiger, Universal Truth, Nobody Expects..., Nightmare Scenario, and Nemesis.

Raider Wars had a lot of hard missions, but Nobody Expects... and Nightmare Scenario might be the worst (of course you're supposed to lost Nightmare Scenario, but still).
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: SpardaSon21 on August 25, 2009, 01:09:15 pm
Forced frakking Entry.  Seriously BP team, are you all sadists who enjoy drinking the tears of frustrated gamers pushed over the edge?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 25, 2009, 01:18:51 pm
For the Nth time, there was no BP team, it was just Darius!  :p
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: The E on August 25, 2009, 01:33:32 pm
Forced Entry is just the right kind of challenging for me right now.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 25, 2009, 01:33:56 pm
The one big complaint I have with Forced Entry is the Lilith warpin. That's being rebalanced. Other than that I think it's actually quite fair.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: SpardaSon21 on August 25, 2009, 01:42:57 pm
Fine GB, Darius must be a sadist who enjoys drinking the tears of frustrated gamers pulled over the edge.  He probably thinks such a plan will give him immortality or ultimate power or something like that.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Spoon on August 25, 2009, 02:58:57 pm
Was I the only one who thought that the decision in forced entry to send in one ship at the time was a bit... illogical?
Why the one at the time tactic? Wouldn't it be a much better plan to just move the whole fleet in formation for maximum turret ownage and such and then send them one by one through the knossos as fast as possible?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on August 25, 2009, 03:03:33 pm
I'd say Forced Entry as a whole might take you for a surprise, but it's not neccessarily unreasonable... though it does need balancing if you're going to use a Lilith (Which is possibly the MOST UNBALANCED warship ever...). Unreasonable is the Aeos Affair...  :mad: :mad:

I'll say Forced Entry is not unreasonable for the most part because you are made aware of fairly large amounts of heavy, high-power enemy hardware in the briefing. The problem then becomes choosing the right equipment to counter theirs...

The only problem (while also a boon to a degree) is the distances involved. The distance for you to cover makes the space feel massive, which is great, but the enemy does not encounter that problem so much: The Herc is too slow while the Myrm too under-armed. In my opinion, the Lilith situation would be a bit more fair if it was out of range of its target ship when it jumps in or if it was replaced bt something easier to attack... a Moloch would actually fit the bill in my opinion. If the corvette was still around, Temeraire would probably dispatch it with no problem.

However, the best mission in BP by far has to be Universal Truth. Electro-rock makes any mission better!  :D

-Thaeris
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 25, 2009, 03:28:18 pm
Was I the only one who thought that the decision in forced entry to send in one ship at the time was a bit... illogical?
Why the one at the time tactic? Wouldn't it be a much better plan to just move the whole fleet in formation for maximum turret ownage and such and then send them one by one through the knossos as fast as possible?

That's basically how Universal Truth works. I should think that the ship-by-ship tactic in Forced Entry was employed so that each ship could be escorted in turn by the maximum number of fighters - thus preventing ships from being picked off by bombers while the fighters were scrambling all over.

The only problem (while also a boon to a degree) is the distances involved. The distance for you to cover makes the space feel massive, which is great, but the enemy does not encounter that problem so much: The Herc is too slow while the Myrm too under-armed. In my opinion, the Lilith situation would be a bit more fair if it was out of range of its target ship when it jumps in or if it was replaced bt something easier to attack... a Moloch would actually fit the bill in my opinion. If the corvette was still around, Temeraire would probably dispatch it with no problem.

That's why wingman command is so important. For the Lilith, however, I agree; it's going to gain a bit of a delay before it starts using its main beam, I think, and we can use SEXPs to slow the beam fire rate.

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However, the best mission in BP by far has to be Universal Truth. Electro-rock makes any mission better!  :D

I completely agree. Fantastic, fun BoE. Just got done playing it a couple times since I put the voice acting into it.  ;7
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Scotty on August 25, 2009, 03:52:04 pm
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The Herc is too slow while the Myrm too under-armed.

Herc too slow yes.  Myrm can fit three banks of trebs and six guns worth of balors.  It becomes a bomber owner by definition.

ANd a disarmer.  The Trebs will take the beam off that Lilith in 10 seconds flat.  It never got off a shot for me.  Then just c36 and it sits there without any teeth for the rest of the mission.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Mongoose on August 25, 2009, 08:37:09 pm
Unreasonable is the Aeos Affair...  :mad: :mad:
I've seen you claim that before, but the only mission in it that gave me significant trouble, at least on Easy, was the very first, and even that became substantially easier when I decided to try flying a bomber.  It's perhaps less forgiving than most other campaigns, but accomplishing your objectives isn't massively difficult.

Oh, and while I'm posting, one mission which has given me fits many times before was the point in Derelict where you're trying to defend an Orion from Shivan bomber/destroyer attack in a nebular environment.  Being a perfectionist, I always attempt to save all twelve or so escape pods that it releases, but this becomes rather difficult when there are two separate Shivan wings jumping in at once.  Cue multiple restarts and much frustration on my part.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 25, 2009, 09:52:28 pm
Ban this ddddyyyy bot, please? Spam posts deleted.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: sigtau on August 25, 2009, 09:54:34 pm
He Who Rides The Tiger, Forced Entry (on Very Easy  :mad2:), Clash of the Titans II.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on August 25, 2009, 11:23:37 pm
I've "upgraded" to medium difficulty.  :D

That said, some campaigns which should have been a challenge (or maybe not, even...) before on easy are now a "whole 'nother animal" one difficulty higher. The first mission in Aeos affair is a bit tricky (and a little buggy... fail it and see the debrief... it just doesn't fit), but it's not deplorable. Deplorable is the mission where you're sent to protect the Praetor until the Hecate-class destroyer warps in. Spamming too many enemies into one place is miserable, uninteresting, and often unreasonable. For instance, sending in a FRIGGIN' LILITH at point-blank range!  :mad:

If you want a real shock, play Transcend one difficulty higher than you're used to... that probably means "not on easy" for most players. You'll find an 8-on-1 dogfight is really hard to make it out of with the unruly combo of Herc 2, Subach, Prom R, and Hornets. Now, the Herc 2 is great and the said weapons aren't bad (except for the Prom R... and Hornets for anything that makes evasive maneuvers...), but those things together will leave you fuming. If it was real, dead.

If my rant shall go on, the Lilith as a whole is an unreasonable entity. Unreasonable for a capship can mean awesome as well, but seeing as a Lilith is NEVAR on your side, it's just plain unreasonable!  :P

Speaking of Transcend... The second-to-last mission. I think I had to play it twice before I beat it on medium, but that has to be one of the best final duals for FS out there! It's one heck of a dogfight, to say the least.

-Thaeris
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 25, 2009, 11:29:19 pm
There is no reason anyone should survive an 8-on-1 dogfight on any reasonable difficulty without a good bit of retry and a little luck. It's nothing to sneeze at.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 26, 2009, 02:14:02 am
Forced Entry was brilliant. Even the first incarnation of it was brilliant. The only thing more satisfying in FreeSpace than completing Forced Entry is this:

Quote from: Admiral Wolf
Damn, you're still an Ensign! You must have gotten busted!
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 26, 2009, 02:49:15 am
Universal Truth must not have blown my mind since I don't have a clue what mission you guys are even talking about.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 26, 2009, 03:14:27 am
Then go and play BP. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 26, 2009, 03:19:42 am
Then go and play BP. :rolleyes:

 :wtf: I have played it. That's why I'm saying, it didn't blow my mind.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 26, 2009, 03:23:52 am
Sorry, I took it to mean that you've never played it. The bolded bit led me to my presumption.

Universal Truth must not have blown my mind since I don't have a clue what mission you guys are even talking about.

That said, Universal Truth didn't blow my mind either. It's just escorting everyone while the Vishnans and Shivans duke it out.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 26, 2009, 03:40:40 am
That said, Universal Truth didn't blow my mind either. It's just escorting everyone while the Vishnans and Shivans duke it out.


Oh that one.
Meh. Too much exposition
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Scotty on August 26, 2009, 06:58:55 am
To be fair, it is a good mission even before the Vishnans get there, what with the already GIGANTIC capship battle (by FS standards). 
Spoiler:
And then FOUR MORE DESTROYERS jump in.  That battle probably has the biggest weight of metal of any mission I had seen up to that point.  But then the second to last mission just blows the hell out of that.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 26, 2009, 09:35:57 am
To be fair, it is a good mission even before the Vishnans get there, what with the already GIGANTIC capship battle (by FS standards). 
Spoiler:
And then FOUR MORE DESTROYERS jump in.  That battle probably has the biggest weight of metal of any mission I had seen up to that point.  But then the second to last mission just blows the hell out of that.

I think you're thinking of The Great Preservers.

Oh that one.
Meh. Too much exposition

Well, we can always add a skip button.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 26, 2009, 03:44:05 pm
Oh that one.
Meh. Too much exposition

Well, we can always add a skip button.

The mission's fine as is I just thought it was a little too much in terms of telling me what's going on. It's like "oh, so that's the secret of the universe. Thanks for sharing".
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Scotty on August 26, 2009, 03:51:07 pm
@Battuta:  Probably.  The one right after Forced Entry?  The second one I was talking about was Universal Truth, what with the BFSs and all.  The first one I was thinking of was Preserving the Balance.  Who wouldn't love a mission where a total of EIGHT Destroyer sized warships duke it out for most of a mission?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 26, 2009, 04:57:38 pm
Oh that one.
Meh. Too much exposition

Well, we can always add a skip button.

The mission's fine as is I just thought it was a little too much in terms of telling me what's going on. It's like "oh, so that's the secret of the universe. Thanks for sharing".

Yeah, my reaction the first time through was similar, but it's grown on me.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: NGTM-1R on August 26, 2009, 07:07:16 pm
It wasn't terribly cinematic either to be honest. They weren't slinging much in the way of beams and such.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Droid803 on August 26, 2009, 08:40:30 pm
Universal Truth needs a skip button.
Sitting through the 2-3 minute chat the bigass ships have before the battle every time gets annoying when you get splashed by bomb shockwaves a few times. (I ended up getting irritated and just invul'ed myself, and started 'k-ing stuff).

I can stand repeating difficult missions if I don't have to sit there watching the same thing over and over and over before it gets to the actually part that matters. If I do, then I get irritated and the mission looses it's appeal entirely. (This is the same reason I dislike He Who Rides the Tiger, with it's long wait time before anything happens).

While it may be good for storytelling, it becomes aggravating to play for the third or fourth time.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 26, 2009, 09:12:29 pm
A skip button will be easy to implement. So will MORE BEAMZ (as long as it doesn't trash framerate!) We could even waypoint the Dante or something...make it bear down on the convoy as if perhaps intending to swat it away...
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 26, 2009, 09:56:18 pm
I can stand repeating difficult missions if I don't have to sit there watching the same thing over and over and over before it gets to the actually part that matters. If I do, then I get irritated and the mission looses it's appeal entirely. (This is the same reason I dislike He Who Rides the Tiger, with it's long wait time before anything happens).

While it may be good for storytelling, it becomes aggravating to play for the third or fourth time.

Try playtesting such a mission. Now that's aggravating. For my own campaign I'm cutting down the pre-action chatter, if there's any delay to the player getting into the action I'll make the mission fairly easy so that they shouldn't have much opportunity to fail. But in the first chapter of the campaign I'd have to go through all this boring chatter just to test if something worked at the very end of the mission. Now that was annoying and is such a motivation killer as well both as player and creator.

In a case like BP I would simply make the mission a red alert. Put all the blah blah blah in one mission. Cut, go to red-alert mission and cue combat. Sure the player may not be where they were before but whatever. Or just make it a cutscene, so the player can't screw around.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 26, 2009, 10:03:36 pm
Or...put in a skip button?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on August 26, 2009, 10:06:04 pm
Or...put in a skip button?

Like what, a training mission? Skip training sort of thing?


From a player perspective. I don't want to skip the dialogue. I just want to see it once. So I'm not sure how a skip button would help in that regard. People might skip it altogether and miss the big universal truth.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 26, 2009, 10:07:14 pm
No, a keypress to skip the dialogue section of the mission and move to the action. You can use campaign persistent variables to have it only show up once the mission has been played through the cutscene at least once.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Sushi on August 26, 2009, 10:36:47 pm
Time Compress works wonders... Just use that to "skip" through long cutscenes and exposition.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on August 26, 2009, 10:38:20 pm
Yeah, but then the messages/voice acting all stack up and form a backlog.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Droid803 on August 26, 2009, 10:56:00 pm
Time compress also messes up cutscenes that work with beam fire, so a skip button would probably be better.
The backlog of messages can bite back when you get to a new part of the mission and it's still going on about the old stuff, then you don't know what to do, so you just end up failing again :/
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Javito1986 on August 26, 2009, 11:28:47 pm
I  never thought Forced Entry was overly difficult. It's an amazing mission but difficult? Eh... the key to FE is wingmen control. I certainly wasn't running off in every direction attacking Lilith's, I just dispatched a wing of fighters to do that for me. This was on insane difficulty btw.

The only things you need for FE are trebuchets for the beam cannons you'll be taking out.

My favorite mission from BP was Univeral Truth. The music's what does it for me.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: LazyNinja on August 26, 2009, 11:57:49 pm
What about Windmills? The final mission really blew my mind away this morning...  :shaking:
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on August 27, 2009, 03:50:32 am
MORE BEAMZ (as long as it doesn't trash framerate!)

Battuta, the only thing that trashes framerate (for me) is ship detail.

Eh... the key to FE is wingmen control.

I agree. The mission's made such that you can't really do it unless if you make use of your C key or the directives shortcuts.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on September 05, 2009, 11:20:58 pm
JAD3 and the GTCv Pork.  :D
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Riptide572 on September 12, 2009, 01:57:31 am
Into the Lion's Den by far in my opinion. It had that right "charisma" of everything. It wasn't even that great of a mission to be honest (in terms of objectives), but it made you really feel like you where there. Stay alive and record what you can in uncharted space, behind enemy lines, all while brushing shoulders with the Shivans.
I can't remember a line of dialog from FS2 as strongly as I can, "DIVE! DIVE! DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNER'S PILOTS!!!" And seeing a Sathanas jumping a node directly in front of you.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: deathfun on September 12, 2009, 11:41:02 pm
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I can't remember a line of dialog from FS2 as strongly as I can, "DIVE! DIVE! DIVE! HIT YOUR BURNER'S PILOTS!!!" And seeing a Sathanas jumping a node directly in front of you.

I concur

That was by far, the most lively script I've heard in that game. It also started the mission in such a way that you just go HOLY ****
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Hamenaglar on September 13, 2009, 10:26:09 am
Just playing slaying Ravana on Hard

grrrrr. Yes one wing of bombers covered by three fighters was supposed to destroy the shivan destroyer. Seriously why am I always heavily outnumbered.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Thaeris on September 13, 2009, 11:43:36 pm
Quite enjoying Sync. As of right now, I get the impression this one would need much less work than Transcend to work the minor kinks out and get it voiced. Much, much, better balance than Transcend...

...That's a little off topic, though...
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 14, 2009, 03:48:56 am
The destruction of the first Sathanas. Somehow, the Colossus missed its shot and hit the little, tiny bomber flitting around pinpricking the Sath, minding its own business. Took me 5 seconds to realise what had happened.

grrrrr. Yes one wing of bombers covered by three fighters was supposed to destroy the shivan destroyer. Seriously why am I always heavily outnumbered.
You're Alpha One. THE SHIVANS are outnumbered, not you.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: NGTM-1R on September 14, 2009, 08:47:00 am
Yes one wing of bombers covered by three fighters was supposed to destroy the shivan destroyer. Seriously why am I always heavily outnumbered.

You're never gonna win the war with the Shivans unless you win while outnumbered.

Now... "If Command wants your opinion they'll promote you to Admiral, now shut up and focus!" :P
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: General Battuta on September 14, 2009, 10:22:49 am
You're Alpha One. THE SHIVANS are outnumbered, not you.

Play on insane, nub.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Hamenaglar on September 14, 2009, 01:21:29 pm
Yes one wing of bombers covered by three fighters was supposed to destroy the shivan destroyer. Seriously why am I always heavily outnumbered.

You're never gonna win the war with the Shivans unless you win while outnumbered.

Now... "If Command wants your opinion they'll promote you to Admiral, now shut up and focus!" :P

Hey, it's not the command that's risking their life in a slow, nonmanouverable tin can with a bull's eye painted on the ass.

I need some cover here folks.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on September 14, 2009, 01:54:37 pm

Hey, it's not the command that's risking their life in a slow, nonmanouverable tin can with a bull's eye painted on the ass.

I need some cover here folks.

You're not the only one I get my ass kicked on th emission all the time. I hear that ther's a corvette nearby where you can take shelter. In the 20+ times I played that mission I don't think I got anywhere near it.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: deathfun on September 14, 2009, 07:34:09 pm
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Hey, it's not the command that's risking their life in a slow, nonmanouverable tin can with a bull's eye painted on the ass.

I need some cover here folks.

Well of course a tin can isn't maneuverable!
It doesn't have engines!


And I believe Command is risking their life in a slow tin can. Just, not near the battle
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Stormkeeper on September 14, 2009, 08:02:39 pm
Play on insane, nub.
No fear. I'm not that insane.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: ElMattador on November 17, 2009, 04:02:58 pm
DIVE DIVE DIVE< HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT!!!  I was in a constant state of awe, but I wasn't all too enthused about the really long distance flight to take out that last com node...  But I loved flying the Mara...  I just wish I had seen more weird Shivan stuff, like colonies or space ports, or world-ships, or space-factories  and whut!? another Knossos!?  Does that go to Shivan home turf?  How big is their empire?  Mind blown... :eek2:

I also loved the Nyrlathotep missions in the Derelict campaign, so mysterious and epic, and I enjoyed my wingmates for once.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Mav on November 28, 2009, 08:28:17 pm
In some mission towards the end of the retail campaign, there was some Cain or Lilith (I think it was a Cain) that attacked something I had to guard (maybe it was even the transports in the last mission...) .

Guess what happened?
My (brandnew, i.e. 100%) Ares (back then I always chose that if possible) got caught in a BIG red Shivan beam... It somehow survived, but afterwards, hull integrity read as "1%" ...  :eek2:

 ;)

No need to mention that I had to replay the mission, is there?



And the other point that burned into my memory was in some self-Freded mission... But not because of my Freding skills.
A Lucifer warping in with Lightspeeds animated green glowmaps... a GREAT sight to behold!!  :cool: ;7
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: maelstrom0511 on December 01, 2009, 01:48:57 pm
Whichever one it was (I'll find out soon, I'm gonna play the whole campaign through again) in the main FreeSpace 2 campaign where you hear at the very beginning:

DIVE! DIVE! DIVE!

Classic  ;)
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Tantalus53 on December 01, 2009, 02:17:41 pm
That one mission (Pandoras box i think its called) when your trying to get shields from the shivans and right after you show up they spring a trap on you. It was amazing the first time i played it.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Polpolion on December 01, 2009, 03:25:50 pm
The mission in which the Iceni is scuttled is pretty intense, as is "Their Finest Hour," and "Apocalypse."
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: deathfun on December 02, 2009, 12:49:16 am
Clash of the Titans, Freespace One

Many years ago, I first laid eyes on that mission. Never passed it
Only three or so years ago, I reinstalled the game, and played through remembering most missions. Then I got to the one I never passed

When I managed to get the Bastion to survive, I was amazed but not prepared for the mission after the next. Subspace engagement? Pretty blue cylinder?

Blew me away, though as disconcerting it was (round and round and round it goes)
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: headdie on December 02, 2009, 04:15:26 am
Clash of the Titans, Freespace One

Many years ago, I first laid eyes on that mission. Never passed it
Only three or so years ago, I reinstalled the game, and played through remembering most missions. Then I got to the one I never passed

When I managed to get the Bastion to survive, I was amazed but not prepared for the mission after the next. Subspace engagement? Pretty blue cylinder?

Blew me away, though as disconcerting it was (round and round and round it goes)

The FS1 subspace mission has to rank as one of the most awe inspiring missions of the FS series, I am still moved every time I see that tunnel, tbh it would have been nice to have seen another subspace mission in FS2 just to see what :v: would have done with the effect
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on December 02, 2009, 06:38:42 am
That one mission (Pandoras box i think its called) when your trying to get shields from the shivans and right after you show up they spring a trap on you. It was amazing the first time i played it.

Pandora's Box, it is.

That was the mission that made me fall in love with Haunted.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Nuclear1 on December 03, 2009, 02:33:10 am
Black Omega was a fantastic mission when played in multi co-op.  The first time we ever passed that on insane was a good day.

FS1 - Playing Judas or The Big Bang.

FS2 - Feint Parry Riposte was incredible at the end. The whole final four missions were great too.

User-made: Derelict's Hail Mary or The Stars Are Right.  ST:R's He Who Rides The Tiger, the last mission of DEM, pretty much the entirety of BP and Transcend, and the discovery of the Knossos and Capella sequence in Sync.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Lucika on December 03, 2009, 05:54:56 pm
Even though I love Clash of the Titans and what it stands for in FS (and considering gameplay CotT2 was a real letdown. No capship to fight? I mean, we lack the other titan, guys! :D), my vote still goes for Doomsday.
I mean, hell: I just took down the Eva and I got a glimpse of hope. I do my best to save the Galatea and I considered it to be a miracle when I dealt with the bombers. I had high hopes. But then the Lucifer appeared and BAM! My hopes and dreams were shattered...
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Colonol Dekker on December 03, 2009, 06:18:28 pm
Doomsday is definitely up there with my top three. The other two (fs1) missions being the Zod depot raid (m3/4?) and the shivans Blapping the Einstien.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Lucika on December 03, 2009, 06:34:54 pm
and the shivans Blapping the Einstien.

You mean ST:R, right?
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Droid803 on December 03, 2009, 06:40:26 pm
Even though I love Clash of the Titans and what it stands for in FS (and considering gameplay CotT2 was a real letdown. No capship to fight? I mean, we lack the other titan, guys! :D)

CotT 2 was Bastion vs Jump Node.
Title: Re: HOLY BACON! : Missions Which Blew Your Mind (Or Blew You Apart)
Post by: Nuclear1 on December 03, 2009, 06:42:29 pm
Even though I love Clash of the Titans and what it stands for in FS (and considering gameplay CotT2 was a real letdown. No capship to fight? I mean, we lack the other titan, guys! :D)

CotT 2 was Bastion vs Jump Node.
Plus, if it was Bastion vs Shivan destroyer, it was just be:
*Shivan destroyer warps in
*BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT
*BOOOOOOOOOOOOM
*Mission failed, Return to base