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Off-Topic Discussion => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: Tyrian on November 04, 2009, 01:56:39 pm
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I seem to have found myself in a position with nothing to do. As a result, I'm looking for some decent PC games to go with my new computer. My machine is pretty much state of the art, so specifications aren't really an issue. The problem is that where I live the selection is terrible. Anyone have any good suggestions? (Steam titles preferred, but not required.)
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All the wing commanders.
Also pong.
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I seem to have found myself in a position with nothing to do. As a result, I'm looking for some decent PC games to go with my new computer. My machine is pretty much state of the art, so specifications aren't really an issue. The problem is that where I live the selection is terrible. Anyone have any good suggestions? (Steam titles preferred, but not required.)
STALKER has been lovely, especially with community mods.
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Newest game i have is Batman: Arkham Asylum which is pretty damn good. Empire: Total War is on steam as well.
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I would like some new games too. The best games I've played recently have actually been various mods (TNM for Deus Ex and The Ball for UT3), along with a few indie titles like World of Goo.
Borderlands looks interesting, especially as it's one of the few modern PC games to have a co-op mode. I have heard good things about NFS: Shift as well.
STALKER has been lovely, especially with community mods.
I couldn't get into the sequel, Clear Sky. I like the FPS/RPG aspect of it and the nonlinear game world, but the story is confusing and the combat is not well designed. The combat mechanics seem like they're meant for a stealth/sniping game like Far Cry, but your aim sucks and it's almost impossible to hide from enemies. The game also has a rough, unpolished feel to it in general, although I could have ignored that if it was fun.
Is the original Stalker similar? What mods improve it?
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Oh, I agree, Clear Sky sucks. The consensus amongst reviewers is that Shadow of Chernobyl was a lot better. You will have to get used to the realistic ballistics model, however - until you get an assault rifle you'll be dying a lot. Quicksave quicksave! (Personally I think that just rather adds to the atmosphere.)
Just play the original: once with STALKER Complete and the Arsenal mod (I think they're compatible?) to get the original feel, and then again with Oblivion Lost to get the expanded crazy feel.
Dragon Age is apparently good.
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Red alert 3??? I think it's pretty fun, and on easy there is very little strategy. :D :D
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Mmm...I dunno, it didn't really live up to Command and Conquer 3, or its predecessors.
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Get Deadspace, I've played it on easy, medium and currently on hard... It's an addictive game. (once you get around the thought that dying in game does not imply any physical harm on you)
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Oh, I agree, Clear Sky sucks. The consensus amongst reviewers is that Shadow of Chernobyl was a lot better. You will have to get used to the realistic ballistics model, however - until you get an assault rifle you'll be dying a lot. Quicksave quicksave! (Personally I think that just rather adds to the atmosphere.)
Just play the original: once with STALKER Complete and the Arsenal mod (I think they're compatible?) to get the original feel, and then again with Oblivion Lost to get the expanded crazy feel.
I like FPSs with a high difficulty, but it needs to be under the player's control. In Clear Sky, the enemy behavior is very erratic and I was often dying in rather arbitrary ways. Your guy is slow and weak and the game seems like it's meant to be played stealthily, but enemies often see you from miles away and hit you with perfect accuracy, even at night. I got an AR near the beginning, but have very little ammo for it.
If the original game is better, I might try that at some point.
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The original game feels that way towards the start, but as soon as you get going (or with the Arsenal mod installed, which gives you an accurate but not overpowered weapon at the start), you'll get into it.
There is no question that the original is better. I don't know anybody who liked Clear Sky.
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Played both Stalker and Clear Sky and have to say preferred Stalker by some distance. Clear Sky just didn't feel right, a bit to disjointed and didn't really make all that much sense, at least that's what i thought when i played through it. There were some elements of that in the original game as well but not to anywhere near the same degree. Oblivion Lost mod is pretty damn good to btw
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Mount & Blade.
http://www.taleworlds.com/
Do it. Just do it. :D And, don't buy it on Steam. That way you don't have to be connected to play it.
Basically, you combine an open-world RPG with Half-Life-like physics... and swords, axes, crossbows, and most any other thing medieval. Although you "level up," so-to-say (which increases the proficiency at which your character does things), it's entirely skill-based. And it's modable. Furthermore, it's by an independent developer.
The only downside is that the licence still costs $30 USD. Still, that's not too bad, and indi developers deserve their due. If I had (a.) the funds to buy it, I'd do so, and (b.) if my computer wasn't eaten alive by Vista, I'd also buy it. Seeing as you don't seem to have those problems, at least try it. The demo is basically a "limited" version of the full game, and lets you do everything therein for 30 game days or until you reach level 7. Whatever comes first. :nod:
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The only downside is that the licence still costs $30 USD.
I got it for $20 off amazon.
*shrug*
Also, what Thaeris doesn't tell you is that the battles are fairly large, at least by the standards of open world RPGs. Think scores of combatants on each side.
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Everything I've heard about Dragon Age suggests it's good.
Plus, Claudia Black as snarky mage rogue type.
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IL-2 Sturmovik 1946. Even if the new Storm of War: Battle of Britain were right behind the corner (like it's been for a few years) I would still recommend IL-2 1946 simply for the huge amount of stuff you have available in it, both the original content (and it's about to get a new patch, 4.09) and mods, making it the best WW2 flight sim available. Either get it off GOG or find a shelf copy, they should be pretty cheap by now if you can find one.
That is, if you have interest in combat flight sims. You'll need a joystick for it, too.
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If you like flight sims and also have aspirations for engineering, look into X-Plane.
If you do get it, get it directly from X-Plane.com
As far as freeware goes, there's also Flight Gear (never tried it) and Orbiter (surprised you didn't mention that either, Herra ;) ... I've not tried that yet, either, by the way...). I believe Target Ware is an open source, multiplayer, combat sim. It should be a free download also; also, I've not tried that. I am only one fellow...
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Well, Orbiter is definitely NOT a game. :p
Also, in my quest to hook people to IL-2, allow me to demonstrate the visual splendor this ten years old game has to offer:
Epic Fail Guy is cruising above a pleasant Pacific island on his personal XP-86 Sabre jet.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6204/grab0000.png)
...while the crews on board those cargo ships slowly suffocate from jealousy.
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8660/grab0001.png)
It's afternoon, about 5 pm, and the sun is reflecting from the waves that hit the beach.
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3489/grab0002.png)
Since Epic Fail Guy likes to DIVE DIVE DIVE, he does just that.
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/284/grab0003.png)
...and delivers screenshots in more than one field of view.
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8299/grab0004.png)
It's not exactly Crysis or Far Cry 2, but to be honest, it doesn't need to be to look pretty damn awesome anyway.
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4096/grab0005.png)
Of course, Epic Fail Guy attracts the attention of a foreign superpower, in the form of a MiG-15.
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/2272/grab0006.png)
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1543/grab0007.png)
How does the story end? Does Epic Fail Guy deliver an Epic Delivery of Vengeance in form of .50-cal rounds to the hostile MiG? Will it even matter since those things are allegedly made of cast iron? That is for me to know and you to find out - if you get IL-2 1946 and a few little mods...
Oh by the way, happy 5th of November. Remember remember...
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Still the fourth here. We can discuss explosions in two hours. :D
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Dragon Age is wonderful.
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I'm hearing this. I'm really relieved. A few of the reviews have pointed at things I was really worried about (i.e. horribly clumsy dialogue writing), but the overall positive reviews are nudging me towards trying it out, and apparently the actors are pretty good.
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Battlefield 2, 2142.
both are really awesome.
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I ordered Dragon Age Origins, should arrive on mail tomorrow.
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I'm hearing this. I'm really relieved. A few of the reviews have pointed at things I was really worried about (i.e. horribly clumsy dialogue writing), but the overall positive reviews are nudging me towards trying it out, and apparently the actors are pretty good.
As it turns out the dialogue's probably some of the strongest BioWare has written - the inter-party banter is particularly snappy. And yeah, at times the acting is really quite impressive for a video game. Claudia Black's delivery is a highlight.
At this point it's safe to say the woeful marketing was nothing but a sales gamble.
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FORT ZOMBIE...only 10$, but it's fun, addictive and has a lot more depth than you'd think.
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Real time strategy...
You can't find a better way to waste time. ^_^
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How about free games? I'm bored...
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How about free games? I'm bored...
I just have to say it...
Tyrian is good. :P
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On the subject of free games - whilst not *full* releases - the new Left 4 Dead 2 demo is out on Steam for the PC, as is the demo of Gratuitous Space Battles (http://www.positech.co.uk/gratuitousspacebattles/). I'd advice caution with the second one however as it crashed my system when I tried to quit out of it (though it ran just fine up till that point).
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The only downside is that the licence still costs $30 USD.
I got it for $20 off amazon.
$5 on sale from Direct2Drive . Booyah! :D
And yes, Mount & Blade is good. It's rough around quite a few edges, but where it's good, it's VERY good. It's word-of-mouth reputation is well deserved, and playing the demo should give you enough of a taste so see what's up with it. And it's very moddable: the modding community reminds me of how Freespace's looked in the early years (lots of mod-spam, a good number of great ideas in half-implemented form, and a handful of solid, professional total conversions). It's eaten my gaming life the last few weeks. Be sure to get the battlesizer mod for more epic combat.
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How about free games? I'm bored...
http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=63406.0
I also recommend the mods I mentioned earlier, if you have played the games they're built on. TNM in particular is better than almost all of the commercial games I've played in the last few years. A few design decisions are questionable, but the sheer amount of content and level of polish in it is something for the FS community to aspire to.
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DRAGON AGE ORIGIN!! BIOWARE GAME PRODUCTION AT ITS FINEST (and largest)
Seriously, I might not be able to run it at full bore, but I'm still gonna get it.
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I would say Oblivion
Months and months and I still aint done. (Only for high end though)
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Nooooooo.... Oblivion is scaleable :p
Dark Brotherhood for win.
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Meh. I'm Dark Brotherhood Black Hand, Champion of Cyrodill, Knights of Nine Grandmaster(forgot the actual rank), ArchMage of the Mages Guild, Grey Fox, Master of the Fighter's Guild, Brother of the Order of the Virtuous Blood ... blah blah blah, you get the idea.
I finished the game, and am now attempting to find every location on my map. I finished mapping out North Cyrodill. I hope. Flying dragon back makes things easier, but not by much.
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>:(
Dragonback? Rawr! I didn't know they existed in Oblivion. . . Firespawn has it on Xbox.
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Technically they don't. Not in the "creature" sense. Akatosh is a dragon when on the material plane, but that's about it.
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Maybe I should mentioned that it's a mod, my good Colonol. A dragon, well, really a drake, riding mod. It's based off the Akatosh model, and the modder did it quite smoothly. And there are several versions, and mine just happens to be a Frost Drake. It's faster than Shadowmere by a fair bit, and it ... well, flies, so you can avoid insignificant things like trees and hills. And it has a breathe attack, and is summoned, with an Alteration spell.
Link if you want it. (http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=10389)
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Borderlands is well worth the money if you have the buddies that play coop.
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Attack of the fifty foot robot (http://www.attackofthe50ftrobot.com/downloads.php). It am free it am.
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I have heard good things about NFS: Shift as well.
Please, no... :shaking:
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The last good NFS was Porsche Unleashed, although I had the most fun with 3 and High Stakes. Nothing like a good LAN match playing as the fuzz for a change.
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I was going to suggest Burnout 3: Takedown as a great substitute for the NFS games, but it was apparently never released on PC. Nuts. Still ridiculously fun, though.
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I have heard good things about NFS: Shift as well.
Please, no... :shaking:
If you have something bad to say about it, let's hear it. :p I haven't played it yet.
The last NFS game I played was Most Wanted, which was excellent, but all the subsequent games before Shift are supposed to have been crappy. Shift has gotten more positive reactions on forums I go to, although it's a different type of game and closer to GRID.
I was going to suggest Burnout 3: Takedown as a great substitute for the NFS games, but it was apparently never released on PC. Nuts. Still ridiculously fun, though.
The latest game, Burnout Paradise, is on the PC. That might also be worth checking out. I prefer non-realistic racing games over racing sims in general, and we hardly get any of them on the PC these days.
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Most Wanted was ok, but why the hell couldn't there have been any story development during the game? All those cutscenes at the beginning and then no more until the very end. Teh lame.
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A few more of them would have been nice, but who actually paid attention to the story? The cutscenes seemed to have been meant more for comedy value than anything else, and they delivered there. :D
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The one thing I didn't like was the AIs ability to massively rig the races and catch you up right at the last minute to take the win. I know the game is highly arcade styled but that was a massive issue for me.
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Fortunately that was a double edged sword, you could get totally screwed and still not end up that far behind.
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Ah, good old rubber-banding. That's been around since at least Super Mario Kart, and probably far earlier. :D
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The one thing I didn't like was the AIs ability to massively rig the races and catch you up right at the last minute to take the win. I know the game is highly arcade styled but that was a massive issue for me.
I see people bring that up frequently, but I never found it to be much of an issue. I only saw it happen when the AI had fallen so far behind that his marker had gone off the mini-map, in which case the game moved him to the edge of the map (which was still a long way behind me).
The only criticism I had was the randomness at the end of the major races, where you had a chance to get the pink slip. I always wanted that and kept replaying the races until I got it. :p The enemy cars often had advanced upgrades that you couldn't otherwise get until much later in the game. It would have been better if they gave you the car based on your race performance in some way, instead of the random drawing.
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Is the original post still relevant? If it is, I suggest Tyrian grab Dragon Age. Best story-driven game I've ever played (which is really just KOTOR 1 and 2 as I haven't played any of the BioWare ones like NWN or Baldur's Gate). I can't play the Baldur's Gate games as I can't stand 2d sprite graphics, and the NWN games just looked bland to me.
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If you like good, old-school RPGs, look to the original Avernum trilogy. If you like really old-school RPGs, look to what Avernum is based off of, Exile.
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Is the original post still relevant? If it is, I suggest Tyrian grab Dragon Age. Best story-driven game I've ever played (which is really just KOTOR 1 and 2 as I haven't played any of the BioWare ones like NWN or Baldur's Gate). I can't play the Baldur's Gate games as I can't stand 2d sprite graphics, and the NWN games just looked bland to me.
The graphics in Baldur's Gate remain gorgeous to this day. Check out the widescreen mod.
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If you like Baldur's Gate, try Icewind Dale. Same setting, little further north.
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Oh, I agree, Clear Sky sucks. The consensus amongst reviewers is that Shadow of Chernobyl was a lot better. You will have to get used to the realistic ballistics model, however - until you get an assault rifle you'll be dying a lot. Quicksave quicksave! (Personally I think that just rather adds to the atmosphere.)
Just play the original: once with STALKER Complete and the Arsenal mod (I think they're compatible?) to get the original feel, and then again with Oblivion Lost to get the expanded crazy feel.
Dragon Age is apparently good.
Mods were excellent for this game because they made it what it was supposed to be like AND they fixed the stupid ballistic system they had
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If you like Baldur's Gate, try Icewind Dale. Same setting, little further north.
Dude, Torment. How has Torment not been mentioned?
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Is the original post still relevant? If it is, I suggest Tyrian grab Dragon Age. Best story-driven game I've ever played (which is really just KOTOR 1 and 2 as I haven't played any of the BioWare ones like NWN or Baldur's Gate). I can't play the Baldur's Gate games as I can't stand 2d sprite graphics, and the NWN games just looked bland to me.
The graphics in Baldur's Gate remain gorgeous to this day. Check out the widescreen mod.
To some yes, they are gorgeous. Me, I can't stand looking at sprite after sprite. I can handle low-polygon models and low-resolution textures, but I simply can't stand sprites.
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I don't know what that game looks like, but a lot of early 3D games have not aged well at all, and 2D games of the same era look much better than them today. I think it was only around late 1997 that 3D games surpassed 2D ones to the point that they hold up better today.
I was recently playing a bunch of fanmade levels for Lemmings (Mac version with 640x480 graphics) and the game still looks reasonably good, despite being from 1992. It doesn't have that ugly, blocky look that characterizes many early 3D games, especially from the Doom and Quake 1 eras.
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To some yes, they are gorgeous. Me, I can't stand looking at sprite after sprite. I can handle low-polygon models and low-resolution textures, but I simply can't stand sprites.
That's a bit arbitrary. Art generally trumps technology in these cases, and there's far less wrong with the art in late sprite-based games than early 3D ones.
But more importantly I think an aversion to sprites is a terrible reason to miss out on the excellence that is BG2 and Torment. The terriblest, perhaps! Dragon Age is great, but BG2 is still the better game in many ways.
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Seriously.
Think of the sprites as animated paintings. That should help out.
In many ways they still look better than 3D models. Mechcommander vs. Mechcommander 2 is a great example.
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So true. Just look at StarCraft or AoE. Sprite animation at... maybe not its best, but darn near close!
Age is relatively arbitrary for good games or sims. The only really notable discrepancy is in terms of realism, which many games and sims of the early 90's were lacking in due to the lack of processing power available to the old computers. Those old games are shockingly playable, however...
Strange to think about it, but it is interesting to think of how a "realistic" flight sim from the 90's feels so "arcadey" now. :p
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Dragon Age is damn good. Spiritual sucessor to Baldur's Gate, it is.
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Hmm...I'm going to look into a few of these, especially X-Plane. I'm an engineering student and I have an X52 flight stick. Are there any good RTS games out there, aside from C&C 3?
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Hmm...I'm going to look into a few of these, especially X-Plane. I'm an engineering student and I have an X52 flight stick. Are there any good RTS games out there, aside from C&C 3?
Really? Good news. If I may ask, where do you attend university/college?
If I can reccommed a strategy game, I'd suggest one of Battlefront.com's "Combat Mission" titles, though I didn't care for the newest line in the series. Basically, they're RTS and turn based at the same time. There is a planning phase where you issue orders to your troops, and an execution phase where the operations of both opposing forces are carried out simultaneously. The game(s) have very realistic physics and treat the terrain very realistically as well. If you conceal a squad in a pine forest, that squad is not only going to be hard to see, they'll be hard to hit as well...
They do have some RTS titles as well, though I haven't tried those to date. This is one of those "indi" developers that really is worth your patronage, in my opinion.
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RTS Recommendations:
StarCraft (you should already have this)
WarCraft 3 (less likely to have)
Command and Conquer Red Alert 2 (not 3)
Warhammer 40K: Dawn of War and expansions
Just about any of the Total War games
and if you prefer the unit size and environments of the Total War games, but not the historical setting, or like Warhammer, just not on such a small scale (or you just don't like 40K), then:
Warhammer: Mark of Chaos.
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I'll also toss on Age of Empires 2 (and probably 3, but I don't have any experience with it) and Age of Mythology. Ensemble Studios were right at the top of the game RTS-wise.
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Scotty, I think you're selling RA3 a bit short. It's not a bad game, especially with a mate to back you up.
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C&C3 was a lot better. RA3 was kind of a letdown.
There's no question RA2 was better, I think.
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Yeah, it was, I'll admit that. But it's not a terrible game. It's just not good as its predecessor. But like I said, co-op is incredibly fun, especially with a competent co-commander.
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Ahh, classic RA. That has got to be one of the best games I have ever played. :D
Also Dawn of War: Dark Crusade IMO is the best Dawn of War game.
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RA1 is still a lot of fun in skirmish, although the multiplayer can be unstable on modern systems. I typically use my future wars mod for it.
Yeah, it was, I'll admit that. But it's not a terrible game. It's just not good as its predecessor. But like I said, co-op is incredibly fun, especially with a competent co-commander.
I tried some missions in co-op once, but very few of them are challenging enough to actually justify a second person. The skirmish AI is also weaker than that of C&C3, and is more like RA1's AI. I had a lot more fun in C&C3 co-op and AoD games than with RA3's campaign.
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If you have/get Dark Crusade, check out the Firestorm over Kaurava mod. Yes, I know its named after the setting in Soulstorm, but that's only because they are preparing to move to SS after the patch for the final DC version. Why should you get it? New units, new models, new textures, and a total closer-to-codex rebalance of the game. Plus it even adds Black Templars in all their fanatical, crusading glory. And the IG use their new 5th Edition rules, making them extremely powerful, with Basilisks that can shoot across a four-player map as well as nine Leman Russ tanks at once, including the Eradicator, Punisher, and Demolisher. Bow before
the Hammer of the Emperor Chaos! with its new Marked armies, cult troops, and expanded selection of daemons.
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So basically, the IG will **** you up with their new Basilisks, and everyone else is screwed. :P
There's a reason they didn't go with the codex rules dammit.
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Screwed? Not really. Bassies are hardcapped at three and are really inaccurate when using indirect fire, plus there is talk of making them a relic unit in the next patch. Did I mention they are expensive and fire slowly? They also have crap HP and armor and can't defend themselves against close-in units. Land Speeders with multi-meltas or assault cannons, Vypers with scatter lasers, Necron Destroyers, and even a squad of Tau Tetras can all counter Basilisks. And there are options such as power fist Vanguard Assault Squads and Raptors with power fist aspiring champions if you are a fan of infantry. Basically the IG player can turtle his forces to protect his Basilisks, leaving him without much map control, or he can attack and leave his Basilisks vulnerable to a sneak attack. Plus any unit with an invulnerable save can take a few shots from a Basilisk cannon due to how HP works in FoK.
And IG are powerful yes. Blame GW for making an IG codex that is actually good. Space Marines on the other hand suck early-game because they use the 5th Edition codex mandating a full squad before a heavy weapon can be taken. Good news is once you get to late-game you can spam lascannons and powerfists and steamroller anyone thanks to your 2/3 damage reduction for your basic infantry and near-invincible codex-y Land Raiders that can't be touched by anything short of a missile launcher. Plus Vanguard Veterans can get storm shields and thunder hammers, making them almost as nasty as Terminators and twice as fast. And there are actual Terminators which have a 5/6 damage reduction thanks to their 2+ save, making them pretty much invincible, and they all have powerfists for anti-everything rape.
Every race has an area in which it excels. Do you want me to say what they are for all of the races?
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Scotty, I think you're selling RA3 a bit short. It's not a bad game, especially with a mate to back you up.
I agree it's not a bad game, I just don't recommend buying it when you could get RA 2 instead for cheap.
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Plus any unit with an invulnerable save can take a few shots from a Basilisk cannon due to how HP works in FoK.
There's a reason they didn't go with the codex rules dammit.
I'm not hearing anything to disagree with my assessment, particular if the Basilisk still has that super shot.
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Nope, it doesn't have that super shot anymore. Remember, this is a closer-to-codex mod, so all non-codex abilities got axed. What did happen is that the Basilisk now fires the same shell as the Leman Russ, just at a longer range, just like in the codex. However, the Basilisk is capped at three, may become a relic unit, and is extremely expensive at about 400 or so requisition, which is a lot since the requisition researches were removed from Listening Posts. And Basilisks are Tier 3 now. So overpowered to the point of game-breaking? No, not really especially since every other race gets units of pure cheese.
What cheese is their for the races now? Tau Hammerheads now have an anti-everything railgun that rapes everything from infantry to vehicles at a range of 108. Broadsides rape vehicles and heavy infantry at a range of 108 and can fire on the move now with an upgrade. Chaos gets near-invincible anti-everything Obliterators that can fire all their weapons at the same time now, and are no longer hardcapped to one squad, and they can also get three squads of Chaos Terminators. There's also the Defiler which is a cross between a Dreadnought and a Leman Russ now. Space Marines get three squads of Terminators, as well as four Land Raiders, and all those are freaking tough. The SM also have access to an all-powerful Orbital Bombardment that can destroy damn near an entire base in one activation. Necrons are made more codex, and are the only race capable of taking out enemy bases in T1 thanks to their codex-y anti-everything guns. Eldar have access to the Scorpion super-heavy tank which can take more damage than the Baneblade, as well as a superpowered Avatar of Khaine. The Wraithlord also got a buff in that it ignores infantry armor and rolls 10+2d6 for vehicle armor penetration, and is damn near invincible thanks to the fact its a Monstrous Creature and has three wounds. Orks have access to Lootas, which are relatively cheap and are maxed at 12 per mob. Lootas all happen to have autocannons, so you end up with twelve autocannons all firing at the same target, and in FoK they will rape anything short of a Land Raider, even a Leman Russ. Ork Killa Kanz now come in squads of three, and sync-kill every 5 seconds or so. Orks also have access to Deff Dreads which will rape any other walker vehicle thanks to its pair of close-combat weapons. And the Black Templars, a Chapter of SM that don't follow the Codex Astartes, get three squads of Terminators, as well as up to ten Land Raiders.
So yes, the Basilisk is cheese. However every other race has its share of cheese so it all balances out in the end.
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Also Dawn of War: Dark Crusade IMO is the best Dawn of War game.
Do people still play that online? Last time I had it installed (a while ago), the pickings were pretty slim. Still true?
Actually, let's revise the question to: do any of DoW's versions have a decent multiplayer base these days?
I'm tempted to reinstall, but don't want to deal with the hassle if they don't (ask Galemp, my DVD drive is about *this* close to failing altogether).
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Talking of 40K, I was thinking of getting into it, any recommendations on armies, first purchases. BTW I have played a lot of figure games, and am a fairly experienced war gamer in general.
Also if anyone does play and attends any clubs based in London that would be helpful too.
Back on topic: How about Hostile waters. That is a fun game, with a really nice command feel, as well as the ability to jump into the combat.
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Well, if you go 40K, be prepared to spend ludicrous amounts of money. The only stuff I ever bought was the rulebook and a set of Space Marine assault troops (you know, with the jump packs?). I also got a detail brush and maybe some other little things with the purchase, but I think I spent close to or over $70 USD on that alone! I think if I ever getting around to putting those guys together, I'll make them Dark Angels. The Dark Angels are pretty darn cool... If I had to start over and choose a different army, I'd probably go with Eldar (space elves!).
If you want to browse through the Warhammer universe, check the Wiki:
http://www.lexicanum.com/
Wikipedia is also surprisingly good at getting the general idea of many Warhammer elements across as well...
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Or you could just skip the models and buy the novels. Great way to get into the universe without blowing money on expensive models. $70 USD will buy you about 7 or so paperbacks, depending on taxes, with some left over. And the omnibuses are great deals with three novels for only $13.99. If you want advice on specific novels, anything by Dan Abnett is awesome. Watch out for ones written by C.S. Goto though.
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Yeah, read a few of them, they seem pretty good.
But the main thing is that I would like to get into playing, but if you know of any cheaper futuristic figure games, with a nice rich universe, feel free to post them, cheers.
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I always thought the various Battletech series looked cool, especially beacuse of all the neat fighters available. I never found a good rulebook, though, so I never started picking up kits.
If you like Warhammer 40K but dislike large models, GW has a series called Epic 40K. Thus, you can have hordes of tanks, actually use aircraft on the board, etc. I have yet to see these in the hobby store, however. Buying them from Forge World would be pretty pricey, too. Still, this way you'd get a lot more "bang" for the buck, so-to-say, and not have to fill a corner of the room with large, easily damagable miniatures. Now, they're small, damagable miniatures! :p
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Doesn't Epic include Titans? Those can get a bit pricey...
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A "normal"-sized titan would be even more so. :lol:
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You want cheap? Download MegaMek. It's free, you play Classic BattleTech online. Win. Or just play Classic Battletech with a counters instead of minis. As long as you bought and read the rule books, nobody will give a crap. For that matter, the novels for CBT are definitely better than the stuff Black Library turns out.
Regarding 40k Black Library stuff: it's usually not very good. Abnett cannot be trusted with a series of novels either, so avoid the Gaunt books. I do recommend the Cain books, Brothers of the Snake, the Grey Knights trilogy which hasn't been collected for some reason, and Titanicus if it's out in paperback yet.
Talking of 40K, I was thinking of getting into it, any recommendations on armies, first purchases. BTW I have played a lot of figure games, and am a fairly experienced war gamer in general.
If you're used to games of a fairly high level of similarity to modern tactics, Imperial Guard or Tau is probably a good choice. (I have a custom-built IG light armor unit because they won't let me play Tau anymore. :/ Too many games of Steel Panthers made me good at the right style of fighting.)
Most new players start off with Space Marines but they rarely keep them for some reason. They're certainly forgiving with their armor save.
Buy your guys off ebay rather than from GW, the market is glutted and ebay is ****loads cheaper. Possible exception with the new IG plastic dudes. If you want a certain style of guy reliably (somebody here assembled several entire squads of Space Marines with the "beakie" helmet) the ebay is definitely your best bet.
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Well there's also Assault Tech 1: Battleteck for a Mechwarrior 2 clone, but I forget if someone mentioned it in this thread.
In case someone did, I'll make this not completely redundant (I hope) by mentioning Battleships Forever (http://www.wyrdysm.com/games.php). If you haven't played it, you're missing out.
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Regarding 40k Black Library stuff: it's usually not very good. Abnett cannot be trusted with a series of novels either, so avoid the Gaunt books. I do recommend the Cain books, Brothers of the Snake, the Grey Knights trilogy which hasn't been collected for some reason, and Titanicus if it's out in paperback yet.
Dude, The Inquisition War. Best 40k, no question (admittedly, I've only read maybe a dozen BL novels, but still). Also The Vampire Genevieve. Why these two? Well, 'proper authors': Ian Watson and Kim Newman, respectively.
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Haven't read that. :P And I selected the books I did mainly because I like the concept of "case study". Cain books are just good, and frequently amusing. Titanicus is a look at the life of Titan crewman and the Mechanicus in general. (Please ignore the shaggy dog story about Samstag, but do note the chapter numbering, which is in Binary.) Brothers of the Snake is a good look at the life of a Marine from before Abnett got Protection From Editors +2.
I'll second the comment about C.S. Multilaser Goto though.
That said, with folks like Loren L. Coleman, Micheal Stackpole, and others of similar calibur running about in Classic BattleTech, there's really no contest.
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I really liked Victor Milan's stuff. Though I haven't read his MW:DA novels.
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NGTM-1R, the earlier Ghost novels were written before Brothers of the Snake. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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That's actually disturbing, considering how poor some of them are in comparison.
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I quite enjoyed the Gaunt novels actually, especially the sabbat worlds crusade ones.
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I liked the Gaunt novels. For a bit. By the time I was halfway through the second omnibus I'd had more than my lifetime's allotment of Gaunt, and gave both omnis to some charity or other and pretty much wrote off Dan Abnett. Incredibly repetitive.
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Strange threadjack is strange.
On that note: Link (http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=290)*.
*I take no responsibility for any and all psychological damage that you will receive from viewing that. By the way, it might not be SFW.
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Bumped because I want PC game recommendations, specifically for multiplayer games. I don't necessarily care about the genre or age but I do (duh) care if it still has an active playerbase (I just got Demigod. I like it. No one plays it. I've never seen more than five games in the lobby at once).
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Off-Topic: mxlm, you know that that was supposed to be a SECRET? Not everyone here has Laundry access, you know.
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They will soon. Or else.
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Bumped because I want PC game recommendations, specifically for multiplayer games. I don't necessarily care about the genre or age but I do (duh) care if it still has an active playerbase (I just got Demigod. I like it. No one plays it. I've never seen more than five games in the lobby at once).
battlefield anything.
can't go wrong, still good player bases, though BF2 has the BIGGEST one.
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How about free games? I'm bored...
DWARF FORTRESS. (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=67024.0)
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No.
...unless you like pointless insane doomsday mechanisms. Then it's awesome. :P
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Doesn't everyone? :D
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Play Soldat.
Free unlimited demo.
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Doesn't everyone? :D
...no.
I like watching them, and occasionally using them on my friends. Not in an actual game, though. They always get used on me first.
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That's not an issue in DF. >_>