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I swear that whoever <stares at Axem> made this series of mods was trippin on some exotic drug concoction...wasted from drinking a few too many gallons of everclear...or both...
OOOOkay....just got done...FINALLY (i think) after doing 2 full runs through the temporal loop...run 3 i thought leaving the insane asylum of that battle is would finish it (so can do JAD3)....nope....
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was I right in just ~ + K everything cept the Iceni and the Pal which both got ~ + Shift + I? (at least no more ridiculous time loops and disco <shudder>) well it did say campaign over after that
or
is it putting up with the loop 5x like that crazy vasudan pilot said about riddle of 5...
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too bad the Shivans didnt wax just the terran part of the GTVA...fruitcakes the lot...unlike the Vasudans "...finally some competent..." I forget the rest of the quote
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What vasudan? I only remember a space zombie
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the vasudan that talked alot and went on about a temporal loop thing and how past present and future are here....same one that said "or wait on your future self" or something like that...same one who agreed on destroying the PAL and would kill it if Alpha 1 didnt...
idk...JAD is an epic face palm :lol:
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What vasudan? I only remember a space zombie
Noooooo how did you know I was a zombie
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because you just told me :P
<just finished JAD3> jeeze never in all my FS2 playing life has progressing in a campaign relied on cheating as prerequisite
wheres Axem so I can beat em' :P
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jeeze never in all my FS2 playing life has progressing in a campaign relied on cheating as prerequisite
That's slander!
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Saving the PAL does not require cheats. I'm reasonably sure no other missions do either.
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Saving the PAL does not require cheats. I'm reasonably sure no other missions do either.
The PAL's in JAD2.
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I don't remember it being necessary to cheat in any of them(any references were just text, and in JAD2, ~+K wouldn't have worked, in one shot, on that kind of ship, anyway).
Oh, right. After Samuel L. Terran Command goes down, that "corporate fleet" shows up. I was stuck there for a while, then realized I had to 'follow the money'(well, first I had to realize where it was). The mecha had a different weak point than the 'Shivan' mecha from an earlier stage, but was in a logical enough location. I liked the 'item' stuff in the last few levels, at least once I figured out what everything did. I might pick a fast fighter like a Pegasus for the final level(or Loki, if the latter is even available), though if you leave a certain 'item' around until the very end, you won't necessarily need the speed at that point.
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It's necessary to cheat in the mission where you need to grab the nav buoys from the pegasus and the colossus, because the mission is bugged or something and nothing has collision. so you can't kill the ares necessary to take the beacon from the colly.
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It's necessary to cheat in the mission where you need to grab the nav buoys from the pegasus and the colossus, because the mission is bugged or something and nothing has collision. so you can't kill the ares necessary to take the beacon from the colly.
Or you can just pump all power to the engines and beat the Ares to the beacon.
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No, you can beat the pegasus to the beacon, but you need to kill the ares.
The ares spawns when you near the second beacon (at the collosus)
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well whichever one had the PAL in it...in objectives im suppose to scan it but its not scannable...and when my future self cant remember what to tell me...my wingman and command say destroy it...1st go around I did....well at last 'mission after Bravos vs FRED2 I go in the Knossonos and end up BACK at the mission with the PAL....this time i ignored it and my wingman killed it....so back again to the Bravos vs Fred2 battle...then on 3rd time to the Pal...(and an assumed reference to the encounter with FRED in JAD1)...i ensured the Iceni (FRED2 in this case) and the PAL both survived....when they were all that was left campaign ended
will go back to it sooner or later and see if there was another way though...after that 1st go around i cheated my way....i hate :mad2: temporal loops :shaking:
NOTE: I never had a problem with the beacon grabbing mission....only cheating i did in that one (only consistent one in all of JAD) was make myself invincible since that mod has habit of tossing about one-shot-smite-thee beams like theres no tomorrow and despite efforts I kept getting vaporized
NOTE2: in the 1st mission where ships arrange into mecha looking...my entire screen was stuck in the 'freelook' style...didnt have any hud or anything...during 2nd time they do it however it worked normally
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Dude, just don't shoot the PAL! No need to cheat :P
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Note that when your wingman decides to kill the PAL on his own, his IFF turns purple(neutral), suggesting it's okay to shoot him. I didn't notice that until the third time through, I think.
I didn't have any collision problems with the 'demon lobster' mission, either. I even ended up killing the Ares partly due to it bungling itself into a cubbyhole/corner in the Colossus. By trial and error, I skimmed over the surface of the top of the Colly and the 'lobster', to minimize return fire.
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Yeah you have to kill the wingman that tries to kill the PAL.
Wait, you didn't have collision issues on the demon lobster mission? ShadowGorrath and I both had collision problems.
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Note that when your wingman decides to kill the PAL on his own, his IFF turns purple(neutral), suggesting it's okay to shoot him. I didn't notice that until the third time through, I think.
I didn't have any collision problems with the 'demon lobster' mission, either. I even ended up killing the Ares partly due to it bungling itself into a cubbyhole/corner in the Colossus. By trial and error, I skimmed over the surface of the top of the Colly and the 'lobster', to minimize return fire.
I never noticed that about the wingman...well...better late than never
Ya that 1st occurrence with the 2 Endor mechas...first few times tried I was stuck in the 'free look' kinda of perspective...and the Shivan one I watched it shoot the GTVA one for a looong time but nothing happened (it never even fired back)...then again maybe i also shoulda did what the Briefing screen said...turn down model detail but somehow I don't think that woulda made difference
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Whenever that happens, it's just that your HUD didn't reappear(for whatever reason; it's a somewhat common occurrence). Press Shift-O, and you can continue normally. I don't know/recall if the friendly mecha does anything.
The first mecha's weak point:
Look for the Shivan Comm Node, near its chest, IIRC. I recommend bringing Maxims to kill it from a distance.
In the last mission:
I've actually forgotten what 'objects' were used, but...inside the Hades fighterbay, at the 'groin' of the mecha, are a pair of objects, probably cargo containers or something; you can't fly inside, but you can shoot them from outside. Destroying both will cause the mecha to self-destruct.
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I've actually forgotten what 'objects' were used
They were Hygeias, I believe.
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No, you can beat the pegasus to the beacon, but you need to kill the ares.
The ares spawns when you near the second beacon (at the collosus)
Eh well, I recall I somehow managed to beat that mission without cheating even with the collision error (I actually thought the no clipping thing was intentional :P )
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On one hand, the secret to JAD is cheating. Not www.freespace2.com cheats, but out thinking FRED when he tries to construct his "foolproof" plans.
Anyway is the Ares thing a problem with the MediaVP model? JAD doesn't require the MediaVPs, try it out without them and see if the Ares is still impossible to kill. If it is... then he gets CHANGED.
I've also taken note of some other things you guys are reporting for any updates I do to the campaigns.
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From what I recall reading from other people, everything in that particular mission was lacking collision detection. I, personally, had no problems, though(and was using the 3.6.10 MVPs).
I did also recently note that there are subtle hints on the F4 Objectives screen. "Brackets", "Makes the galaxy go round", etc; so, if anyone's stuck, that might be worth checking.
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On JAD3 I got stuck on that mission where the neo vasudan front ships turn into the wierd transformers thing. Any thoughts?
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I think he's talking about the one with the POWER LEVELS ARE OVER 9000!
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I think he's talking about the one with the POWER LEVELS ARE OVER 9000!
Frak, sorry. I said a thing but then deleted the post because it was dumb. I believe that's what nuke there is referring to.
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I think he's talking about the one with the POWER LEVELS ARE OVER 9000!
I'm talking about the one where after they transform into that thing they make some comment about the power cord, so everything is turned off. After that happened it gives you a believe in yourself speech and I had no clue what to do.......
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The Shivan CommNode at the center is appropriately named "WEAK POINT AIM FOR THIS"
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I'm talking about the one where after they transform into that thing they make some comment about the power cord, so everything is turned off. After that happened it gives you a believe in yourself speech and I had no clue what to do.......
This is an Evanglion homage.
It's an Angel.
Shoot the core.
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Also, IIRC, the AA beams on the ships are active, so you might want to bring along some Maxims or Trebs to snipe with.
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I'm talking about the one where after they transform into that thing they make some comment about the power cord, so everything is turned off. After that happened it gives you a believe in yourself speech and I had no clue what to do.......
This is an Evanglion homage.
It's an Angel.
Shoot the core.
IN SPOILERS IN SPOILERS!
DAMMIT NGTM-1R YOU RUINED CHRISTMAS :(
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From what I recall reading from other people, everything in that particular mission was lacking collision detection.
Yes, absolutely everything in that mission lacks collision detection for me. I can fly inside the Colossus, the Lucifer, and the Hecate. Shots pass right through me, and everything else.
It just so happens the Ares is the only thing you really need to kill.
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IN SPOILERS IN SPOILERS!
DAMMIT NGTM-1R YOU RUINED CHRISTMAS :(
Oh screw you! There's a statue of limitations on this ****! AERIS DIES! NICOLE KIDMAN IS A GHOST! IT WAS HIS SLED! DARTH VADER IS LUKE'S DAD. :P
Besides, simply saying "it's an Evangelion Homage/it's an Angel" does not prepare you in any way for what that mission actually does.
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I doubt your first and last "spoilers" are really spoilers, considering they are so old and well-known.
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I doubt your first and last "spoilers" are really spoilers, considering they are so old and well-known.
That would be the point.
And actually the oldest one on the list is IT WAS HIS SLED.
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Well, I have no clue what "It was his sled." is from. Same with "Nicole Kidman is a ghost.".
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And actually the oldest one on the list is IT WAS HIS SLED.
My first and only guess was "The Giver" but that's a long shot since I don't think that's technically a spoiler.
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Well, I have no clue what "It was his sled." is from. Same with "Nicole Kidman is a ghost.".
Citizen Kane. The whole scene is actually a plothole, though, since nobody was around to hear his final words. Point that out to a film professor sometime if you want them to go hysterical.
The other one would be from the Patrick Swazye vehicle Ghost. I think. Early 90's movies sort of blend together in my head.
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That was Demi Moore in Ghost :p
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That was Demi Moore in Ghost :p
Like I said, early 90s. :p
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I'm talking about the one where after they transform into that thing they make some comment about the power cord, so everything is turned off. After that happened it gives you a believe in yourself speech and I had no clue what to do.......
This is an Evanglion homage.
It's an Angel.
Shoot the core.
I've never heard of Evanglion.......
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You're not missing much..it's condensed mind****. At least the last few episodes.
The guy who made it was actually admitted..had mental problems IIRC.
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You're not missing much..it's condensed mind****. At least the last few episodes.
The guy who made it was actually admitted..had mental problems IIRC.
He was depressed and used NGE as his outlet
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IN SPOILERS IN SPOILERS!
DAMMIT NGTM-1R YOU RUINED CHRISTMAS :(
Oh screw you! There's a statue of limitations on this ****! AERIS DIES! NICOLE KIDMAN IS A GHOST! IT WAS HIS SLED! DARTH VADER IS LUKE'S DAD. :P
Besides, simply saying "it's an Evangelion Homage/it's an Angel" does not prepare you in any way for what that mission actually does.
Now, the only spoiler I didn't recognize immediately was the first, "AERIS DIES!" What's that from?
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I've never heard of Evanglion.......
What rock do you live under, sir, that you have managed to completely miss out on one of the defining shows of anime?
Now, the only spoiler I didn't recognize immediately was the first, "AERIS DIES!" What's that from?
Final Fantasy VII.
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Condensed mind****? NGE? Maybe. On the other hand if you really want to feel your brains dripping out your ears you need to watch FLCL. Its like a bad acid trip, every single episode, and it never, ever makes any sense whatsoever.
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Condensed mind****? NGE? Maybe. On the other hand if you really want to feel your brains dripping out your ears you need to watch FLCL. Its like a bad acid trip, every single episode, and it never, ever makes any sense whatsoever.
Actually, FLCL makes perfect sense, and its underlying message is deceptively simple. It just requires several re-watches to do so. :p
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What rock do you live under, sir, that you have managed to completely miss out on one of the defining shows of anime?
I don't pay attention to anime. :p
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Whens the next JAD coming out?
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Obviously I'm gonna have to start making any sequels awful so people stop asking for new ones. :p
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Hey, it worked for Lucas, right? :p
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My god, that was his plan all along wasn't it. He was so annoyed with the fan boys he just made the worse possible movies possible.
We're through the looking glass here people...
I need to sell out...
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My... God, man!
You've just found a superb plot element for JAD!
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Whens the next JAD coming out?
And what is DEM, chopped liver? :p
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My... God, man!
You've just found a superb plot element for JAD!
Hasn't corporate sponsorship already been done? :p
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Whens the next JAD coming out?
And what is DEM, chopped liver? :p
Do you two share your ideas amongst each other, you could do a collaberated DEM / JAD campaign.
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you could do a collaberated DEM / JAD campaign.
DJEAMD!
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That would be a mess. I don't think it would be a good idea. :p
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My... God, man!
You've just found a superb plot element for JAD!
Hasn't corporate sponsorship already been done? :p
Yes it has, but not corporate let-downs...
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That would be a mess. I don't think it would be a good idea. :p
I think the mess is why it would be a good idea. :p
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you could do a collaberated DEM / JAD campaign.
DJEAMD!
No, it needs to be Just Another Deus Ex Machina, or JADEM for short.
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I still say DEM Interlude should've been called DEM: The Squeakquel :p
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I still say DEM Interlude should've been called DEM: The Squeakquel :p
KILL. IT. WITH. FIRE!!!
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Its been a while. Whats the diff between DEM and JAD? Their both crazy **** right?
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Certain missions have more craziness compared to one another.
But parodying Sync and Transcend, is ****ing awesome.