[Gank]

True, and if they were fighting for a foreign state or terrorists then I suppose they could be considered foreign troops, but the fact remains that it isnt known for 100% certainty who the hijackers were or who they worked for. FBI website says it itself on the most wanted terrorist page: http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/fugitives.htm

[Stryke 9]

It hardly matters anyway. We know what organization was responsible, and the individuals are dead.

Though I was fairly certain they'd unearthed some kind of clear evidence that those specific guys had been planning it ahead of time.

[Gank]

Well Al-Queda say they didnt do it, which is a bit strange, one would think they'd be quite happy to take credit for such a blow against symbols of freedom and democracy, which they hate so much. Kinda strange too that the hijackers would hide their identitys, when they believed they were doing Gods work and would go straight to heaven and collect 77 virgins for their actions.

As for evidence it was premeditated, arabic flight training manuals, a copy of the Koran, pilot uniforms and even names of the other suspects were found. Mohammed Attas passport miraculously survived the first plane crash, and copys of his 4 page suicide note was found at the site of the Pennsylvania crash. 2 other copys were found. Abdulaziz Al-Omari and Mohammed Atta were caught on security cameras twice in Portland on their way to Boston. Despite the fact that Al-Omari was in Saudi at the time.

[Stryke 9]

Al-Qaeda did take credit for it, dude. You never watched bin Laden's speech?

And I'd like to see some sort of support for your latter claims. They sound terribly like something that came from the tinfoil hat crowd.

[Gank]

Meh, I should have typed said instead of say up there, 5am here. Bin Laden denied it four times before a video of him claiming credit appeared. Since then hes claimed credit a couple of times. If it was him why deny it in the first place.

As for me not knowing much about it, my old neighbour died in the attack and if I had said ****it and accepted the offer of a job in ny 3 years ago theres a strong possibility I would have died with him. So I have a slight interest in the attack.

[phreak]

6 minutes between double posts. a new record

[Gank]

Dunno how that happened, both appeared at the same time.

[Stryke 9]

No. No they didn't.

[Gank]

Originally posted by Stryke 9

And I'd like to see some sort of support for your latter claims. They sound terribly like something that came from the tinfoil hat crowd.

Which claims?
Suicide notes:
http://www.latimes.com/la-092801atta.story
passport:
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/DailyNews/WTC_MAIN010912.html
Some reports say its Satam Al Suqami's passport, some say it was Atta's.
Al-Omari on camera:
http://www.courttv.com/assault_on_america/1004_hijackers_ap.html
Al-Omari still alive
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stm
Anything else?

[Gank]

For me I meant

[Bobboau]

as I was saying, Zionist plot.

[Rictor]

Actually Bob, I don't see why you have to instantly discount things because they require a tiny degree of skepticism to believe. At the very least, you ought to listen, and then afterwards use your own common sense to guage the validity of the claims. Its that, or believe every single word that comes out of the White House/Pentagon/CIA/NSA/DOD/FBI (you get the point, the goverment) 's mouth.

And Zionist lobby groups are very, very influential in Washington. Its no conspiracy, since no attempt is made to hide this fact.

[Gank]

Well whether zionists did it or not, and theres no real evidence to say they did, Mossad apparenty knew about it in advance:
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=75266&sw=mockery%20
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/2020/DailyNews/2020_whitevan_020621.html
http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html

Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, "The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event."

Also interesting but possibly unrelated is the first paragraph here:
http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=06032002-121706-8744r