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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
And in an age where money = political influence...
I'm sorry? You're defining the mechanics of politics for the last few millenia as an 'age'?!

Yes. Before it was money = political influence - 0.00001. ;)

 

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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' c
hmmm... if someone had told me a year ago that HLP's daily highlight now would be an0n back and succeeding at racial trolling, I'd have told them they were insane.
He'd be trolling if he was simply saying 'all niggers suck'. Instead he's making a reasoned argument; references would be nice to back it though as it seems a bit flimsy at the moment.

 

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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
I can't exactly go "Well look at this huge, sprawling, Nubian metropolis that never occured because black's suck" can I?

And I shouldn't need references. Every interaction between blacks and whites shows that white people come out on top. In scientific terms, we call that a 'correlative relationship' whereby the level of crime, technological advancement, peace, stability and general health of a civilization all show that more black people means less fun.

If I were to say that the number of blacks in prison proves they're criminally inclined, the classic response of the politically correct brigade would be to say that it's because courts are biased against black people. Fair enough, they probably are. But even that proves my point. Courts are biased because white people were smart enough to make them, take them and regulate them in such a way as to ensure they could **** with people they didn't like - which proves white superiority.

You don't end up on the ass end of society simply by virtue of being oppressed - because there's always reasons why you were oppressed in the first place and why you can't overcome that oppression.
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' c
By which logic Londoners are better than you since we've set up the system in the country to end up with all the money spent in the south and all your comments against the south are just the disaffected comments of the losing side?
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' c
I can't exactly go "Well look at this huge, sprawling, Nubian metropolis that never occured because black's suck" can I?

And I shouldn't need references. Every interaction between blacks and whites shows that white people come out on top. In scientific terms, we call that a 'correlative relationship' whereby the level of crime, technological advancement, peace, stability and general health of a civilization all show that more black people means less fun.

If I were to say that the number of blacks in prison proves they're criminally inclined, the classic response of the politically correct brigade would be to say that it's because courts are biased against black people. Fair enough, they probably are. But even that proves my point. Courts are biased because white people were smart enough to make them, take them and regulate them in such a way as to ensure they could **** with people they didn't like - which proves white superiority.

You don't end up on the ass end of society simply by virtue of being oppressed - because there's always reasons why you were oppressed in the first place and why you can't overcome that oppression.
If you're arguing simply on the merits that white people are superior to blacks by reason of our having subjugated them repeatedly due to being smarter or better then it's flawed reasoning; we simply got a better deal from nature.

Genetics obviously designed us for survivability, people with darker skin survive better in equatorial regions and actually require more sunlight than us to prevent rickets. White people on the other hand with our higher body fat percentages and whiter skin are prone to burning, overheating and skin related diseases. We're less prone to rickets and better built for colder climates.

Simply put, white people got a better deal as nature allows us to survive better in a wider range of environments, it's only a marginal advantage for the most part but survival of the fittest quite clearly shows that even a small advantage can lead to a substantial gain. We can live and work in colder environments which allows us to mine further, hunt further and generally take advantage of more resources. More resources = more trading = more power.

Technology pretty much closes the gap but there's a rather significant chunk of history where technology didn't allow fair competition. Consider that if there were more riches (tradeable goods) around the equatorial belt than the colder areas, history might have told a different story.

Anyhow, species in nature have a tendency to oust anything that doesn't conform to their phenotype. Racism is simply a modern day side effect of an in-built instinct. To be considered enlightened we should strive to eradicate racism.

 

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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' c
Moreso, we got our arses kicked out of all those colonies anyways in, ooh, about a century or so, so we didn't exactly subjugate them for long in any historical sense.

 

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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
I can't exactly go "Well look at this huge, sprawling, Nubian metropolis that never occured because black's suck" can I?

And I shouldn't need references. Every interaction between blacks and whites shows that white people come out on top. In scientific terms, we call that a 'correlative relationship' whereby the level of crime, technological advancement, peace, stability and general health of a civilization all show that more black people means less fun.

If I were to say that the number of blacks in prison proves they're criminally inclined, the classic response of the politically correct brigade would be to say that it's because courts are biased against black people. Fair enough, they probably are. But even that proves my point. Courts are biased because white people were smart enough to make them, take them and regulate them in such a way as to ensure they could **** with people they didn't like - which proves white superiority.

You don't end up on the ass end of society simply by virtue of being oppressed - because there's always reasons why you were oppressed in the first place and why you can't overcome that oppression.

By the same token the six chavs that beat the crap out of you on the street come out on top in the confrontation with you, since:

a) there's six of them and only one of you - superior strategic planning;
b) if they scared you with a knife first - competent use of tools and advanced knowledge of psychology;
c) the stuff they steal from you is easy money, no need to work your ass off the whole week - efficient use of time and energy;
d) the police etc. can do **** against them and the chavs know it - high level of social awareness.

Let's face it, each and every one of them pwns you in every way :p.

 

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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
By which logic Londoners are better than you since we've set up the system in the country to end up with all the money spent in the south and all your comments against the south are just the disaffected comments of the losing side?
Which would be valid if not for the fact that I can simply move.

If you're arguing simply on the merits that white people are superior to blacks by reason of our having subjugated them repeatedly due to being smarter or better then it's flawed reasoning; we simply got a better deal from nature.

And?

Anyhow, species in nature have a tendency to oust anything that doesn't conform to their phenotype. Racism is simply a modern day side effect of an in-built instinct. To be considered enlightened we should strive to eradicate racism.

To be truly enlightened we should accept what made us strong in the first place and continue to promote those values and beliefs which kept other people from caving our heads in with rocks.

Moreso, we got our arses kicked out of all those colonies anyways in, ooh, about a century or so, so we didn't exactly subjugate them for long in any historical sense.

No. We kicked the **** out of them, took all their stuff and looted their culture and resources for anything of value. Then we just kept the land for the hell of it till they could copy us to a sufficient degree to fight us off - and since we'd already took all their stuff, there wasn't really much point in staying and trying to fend them off.

And I remind you that the Queen is still the head of state for most of those nations and they all still pretty much take their cue from Britain anyway.

By the same token the six chavs that beat the crap out of you on the street come out on top in the confrontation with you, since:

a) there's six of them and only one of you - superior strategic planning;
b) if they scared you with a knife first - competent use of tools and advanced knowledge of psychology;
c) the stuff they steal from you is easy money, no need to work your ass off the whole week - efficient use of time and energy;
d) the police etc. can do **** against them and the chavs know it - high level of social awareness.

Let's face it, each and every one of them pwns you in every way :p.

If you consider only the context of that specific encounter and take them as a group. Individually they're inferior. And they only remain superior as a group for as long as it takes me to get my friends to nail them to a wall.
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
Ultimately superiority is born in situations just like the chav incident -  a gun, a higher corporate/administrative etc. position, convenient circumstance may take the place of superior numbers - and just as you say, individually the chavs are inferior; but so is the person carrying a gun (the gun not being physical part of him/her), take away the gun and what do you get most, if not all of the time? Same with wealth/standing/power - ultimately they translate into being able to get more guns and/or more people. Convenient circumstance is self-explanatory. Take it all away, and what do you get? Some quivering, mass of flesh, usually begging for the mercy they didn't want to give just seconds before. Regardless of race.

 

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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' c
Which would be valid if not for the fact that I can simply move.

 You can move yet you haven't.  The fact that we've tricked you into thinking that the north is superior despite the facts is futher proof of your weakness.
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' c
And an0n: if you can move, then why haven't you bothered and is WS full of you ranting about the heroin addict brother?
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
You can move yet you haven't. The fact that we've tricked you into thinking that the north is superior despite the facts is futher proof of your weakness.
Yeah, try saying that the next time a train explodes.
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' c
That was done by northerners! See you're jealous!

Furthermore your answer that you can move shows that the only way you can be part of the south's greatness is by being assimilated. Something you claimed was proof that Kush sucked.

If northeners didn't suck they would have built their own empire rather than loosing every single war they've fought against the south.
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
Let's put it this way:

* an0n runs
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' c
North... south.... what the **** lads?
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
He's right! We should be united against the Welsh!
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North... south.... what the **** lads?

I was making the point in a rather roundabout way that the differences between current conditions between the north and south of England have more to do with history than they do with who is a stronger or weaker people.
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
See, here's what I think: I believe that every nation has a right to have its people be the be dominant group within society, whether demographically, culturally, politically or whatever. This is equally true for Egypt, France, Jamaica and Thailand, and in fact every nation and every culture. So basically, nationalism for everyone. So if it gets to the point where, say, Muslims make up 20% of the population of France and refuse to assimilate, I think France would be perfectly justified in closing down the borders and forcing assimilation. But the opposite is just as true. If Frencmen start moving en masse of the Middle East, I expect the local governments to to everything in their power to preserve the heritage of that nation.  Given that a nation as coherent unit is defined primarily by its culture, history, religion, race and so on, once those factors stop being more or less uniform the nations ceases to exist.

It's about money, nothing else. People from poor countries move to rich countries. Which is why I maintain that the best way to preserve a country's dominant culture/race/religion is to have it be poor enough that no one is going to move there. Which means most of the world is in the clear, for now, and the West, on account of being rich, has a potential problem on its hands. But like I said earlier, the point at which you should seriously start worrying is a ways off.

 

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Right well no one seems to have even picked up on the largest of my first few posts...
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Re: BNP in turmoil as members row about 'ethnic' candidate
We're too busy planning our assault on the Welsh..... I want to say 'fortifications', but they're more like cottages really.
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