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Offline MP-Ryan

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Re: Further development of space-based weapons
*eyeroll* As I already said, in the interests of cvilility, I'm not continuing.  Someone else can correct the loon.
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The visigoths were advanced architects with large volumes of law and culture.
The vandals were extremely efficient warriors with a high degree of culture who are regarded as no more destructive than any other race out there at the time, once again, like Barbarian, Vandalism was only considered destruction in a post Roman Europe, because despite the fact they lost in the end, most of Europes' outlook was Rome-centric at the time.

I'm sure a lot of people view barbarians as countless Arnold Schwarzenegger look-alikes waving broadswords and speaking in mono-syllables, the truth could not be further from that image. It takes great organisation and an advanced culture to defeat even a corrupt superpower such as Rome was by that time.

It should also be noted that the exodus to the US happened several hundred years AFTER the sack of Rome, so white Americans are descended from that same 'Barbarian' stock as Europeans.

 

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Actually, I have also been seeing parallels between the current situation and the destruction of the old large kingdoms. I might also want remind that the US has also a similar problem with Mexicans.

It is the same old story, the successful generation wants that their kids can avoid the ****ty stuff they had to do in order get successful. While the kids that will get succesful, again think that their kids don't need to do the nasty stuff and teach them accordingly. This will result in a cycle, which leads to a downfall of civilization as no-one wants and is willing to do the stuff that needs to be done. But don't worry, this problem is as old as the mankind and is just as universal. The only thing that can break the cycle is competition or natural change so that it will not remain too easy for too long periods. On the other hand, smart people will always remain at the favorable places in the chain of command, especially during the hard times.

So I see there is some grain of truth in the analysis of the flux of refugees to Europe and in their effects. I don't know what are the grounds for accepting so many refugees in France, could it be the old colonial rule? On the other hand I suspect it has more to do with having cheap and easily abused labour around that have no understanding of their legal status.

Unfortunately ministers didn't think about how well the refugees will obey the laws. Oh and this trend is unfortunately starting to be visible here, especially around the capital region. Elsewhere in the country it is not so. It is sad to see all that what was once considered important is broken and torn down (and in this case most of those things were actually quite smart and logical). The counter reaction will be that more fierce.

This is already so far off the original topic so I'll stop here.

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@Mika,

I understand the comparisons, however, the big difference in this day and age is that we are aware of migration to a much larger degree. There was always a constant influx of new blood to the Roman Empires, and yes, that carried problems with it, some countries heaved with rebellion, Gaul, Britain etc, but regardless of that fact, for hundreds of years the Empire flourished until it collapsed from internal corruption more than anything else.

Now, the UN or the EU are hardly the squeaky-clean organisations they could be, but it is a lot harder for corruption to take place these days, and even in the case of food for oil scandal etc, now that the 'trick' has been identified, it will be dealt with, it's like building a dam in a way, sometimes you don't know where the holes are until you fill the reservoir. Governments evolve to respond to outside pressures in a very Darwinian manner, they will exploit niches until they are forced to find their requirements elsewhere.

As for public counter-reaction, I'll agree that there is a growing unrest in a lot of European countries regarding, not so much the influx of immigrants, but the fact that many nationals are feeling ignored by their government in favour of the immigrants. Is there truth to that claim? I have no idea to be honest, I have so many sources of information that contradict each other that I'm completely at a loss to describe my own feelings on the matter, and that worries me more than simply being 'narrow minded' sometimes. In some ways, it's that very indecisiveness  that has led to the paranoia that seems to inhabit every facet of UK life these days.

 

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Look 30 years from now- oil will be for the price of gold by then, and China will probably not be developed enough to exist without it. Without US influence in the Middle East, Iraq and Iran would be sitting there, waiting for the Chinese to come and conquer the oil supplies. And since there are Americans in Iraq, and probably will be in Iran, China suffered a big blow in terms of energy supplies, decades before anyone could feel it.


Given the increased instability in the area (and if the US tries to go into Iran the greatly increased instability), I would say its more like the whole world "suffered a blow" to its oil supplies.

But I think it's unwise to make a prediction like "it won't be developed enough to not need oil in 30 years". 30 years ago no one could have predicted that things would be the way they are now.
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IMHO; people should try and stay in their own countries.

Immigration should always be on the minimum.
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IMHO; people should try and stay in their own countries.
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Offline Kosh

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:wtf:
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Offline TrashMan

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Re: Further development of space-based weapons
If the smart and willing leave the country at masses for a "better life" then who with brains is left in the country to make it a better place?

There's the old "the grass is always greener on the other side". It's sometimes true. But instead of hopping to your neighbors yard, how about trying to make your own a nice place?

Mark my words, in 50 years spanish/mexican/whatever will be the main language in the USA.
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Isn't it already? ;7

 

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Aren't we off-topic BTW.

I frankly don't care if the USA, China and Russia start a war over this. They can nuke eachother for all I care - all I want to hear is "Ion Cannon online!"
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Re: Further development of space-based weapons
To be honest I think the US is playing right into China's plan to bankrupt it. What makes it really ****ing funny is that China stole the plan from the US after seeing them use it on the USSR. :lol:
All of this has happened before, and it will happen again.

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Aren't we off-topic BTW.
No, no, no. I for one would like to hear how you can justify being anti-immigration in general, other than the unbelievably arrogant "if your country is so bad, why don't you make it better" train of thought.

 

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I'm for limited, strict immigration in general. Nuff said.
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Offline Kosh

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Re: Further development of space-based weapons
immigration allows for ideas to flow and societies to change, neither of which are bad things.
"The reason for this is that the original Fortran got so convoluted and extensive (10's of millions of lines of code) that no-one can actually figure out how it works, there's a massive project going on to decode the original Fortran and write a more modern system, but until then, the UK communication network is actually relying heavily on 35 year old Fortran that nobody understands." - Flipside

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Not to mention that it's amazingly arrogant to believe people shouldn't need to move beyond their borders when you seem to have a rather good standard of living, Trashman.

 

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IMHO; people should try and stay in their own countries.

Immigration should always be on the minimum.

Yeah! You're right!

Immigration has always been a PROBLEM in the US!

Ask any Indian!
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Not to mention that it's amazingly arrogant to believe people shouldn't need to move beyond their borders when you seem to have a rather good standard of living, Trashman.

I'm not again all immigration - just more limited one.

On another note, the standard of living isn't really that good, but I'm not complaining. I like it here.
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