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My retarded wingmen kept killing Arjuna 1 with interceptors before I get a chance to tell them "ignore my target". Its ghey.

Why couldn't you just tell them to "Disarm My Target"?
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It gets shot before I can issue an order sometimes >.> :S
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Now that is strange... :confused:
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Maybe I'm just slow at giving orders (I actually have to read which one is which)...its C-3...something...for ignore. I donno.
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I think the GTVA have better weapons than that by now anyways. There was quite a fight onboard the Iceni ("Shivan bodies are among the dead..."). But the Shivans win anyway, they have lasers. I doubt the GTVA can match that without having to lug them around. The Shivans pee lasers.

Doubt it. The Shivan we saw took three or four seconds to charge up before firing, and fired at range where it would have been easier just to slice the guy or smash him.

With a casuality figure in the thousands, we have to assume there were a lot of dead Shivans for them to stick out much. Arbitrarily assign the Iceni a crew figure of, say, 5000. Of these, very few will be marines, because for most purposes, marines are dead weight. Call it 100, perhaps 120 to make a full company. (This is probably too high; a platoon of 50 or 40 is much more likely.) Assume that there are 200 dead Shivans for them to be noticible (probably more honestly). Ship's crew would be useless in a fight, they're not trained for it, and they wouldn't be armed either. Still, say they account for...20 of the Shivans. This is unlikely but I've been generous with my figures so far, so why not?

That still means 120 NTF marines, who've been training to fight other humans this whole time, and not really very good marines otherwise they'd be deployed somewhere more useful, took down 180 Shivans. They traded at better than 1 for 1 in the conditions Shivans are superbly equipped for fighting in, and more importantly, they aren't. Anything really powerful will punch through your internal bulkheads and possibly ruin ship systems to the point a successful defense of the ship would be rendered pointless, so the best weapons wouldn't be issued for this sort of duty.

Weapons came a long way, or body armor did, or both, because apparently even when not trained for it and not equipped for it, the average marine in FS2 can go one-on-one with a Shivan at knife-fighting range and come out on top.
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It's hard to think that shivans being so big as they are can move fast... Human marines should have not much of trouble with the aiming also... so I would count a couple more of shivans corpses to the turret's control crew, and some of the bridge command might also get a shot.
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IN the hallfight cutscene we can see that there is no gravity. That's how shivans seems to move fast and then have the superiority against humans. In the Iceni where there is gravity, maybe they didn't planned there would be gravity and then.. got killed more easily :D
By what I said, I'm assuming shivans aren't living on a planet (else they would be used to gravity)

 

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it is also important to note that the marines of the Iceni knew the ships like the back of theyr hand so they had a huge advantage from this POV. They could just lay down traps and stuff like that and kill shivans on mass. Remember terrans excell at defence not offence.
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I wonder if ships have fixed gun emplacements for defense or if it's just hand held weapons.

 

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Well, they SHOULD have internal turrets, just in case...It doesn't mean that they do though...  :doubt:
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Well, they SHOULD have internal turrets, just in case...It doesn't mean that they do though...  :doubt:

Yeah...the turrets must have precise shot accuracy, otherwise they might rip lots of holes in the ship's interior. :drevil:
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If they can take Nukes coming one way, I'd suspect they'd handle ballistics going the other :)

 

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If they can take Nukes coming one way, I'd suspect they'd handle ballistics going the other :)

You never know. It's always cheaper to make things strong one way or the other, not both. ;)
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Hehe, actually if you're talking about playing around with the structure of the metal, you could even have a point, it IS possible to make a metal that is incredibly strong to impacts in one direction, and yet malleable to impacts from the other.

 

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Besides, the exterior hull and interior bulkheads that subdivide the ship ain't the same thing. :P
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Hehe, actually if you're talking about playing around with the structure of the metal, you could even have a point, it IS possible to make a metal that is incredibly strong to impacts in one direction, and yet malleable to impacts from the other.
Like in MW4's reactive and reflective armor.
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I wonder if ships have fixed gun emplacements for defense or if it's just hand held weapons.

Hend-held for marine and something like a Mjolenier (Bad spelling) would have a fixed.


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I wonder if ships have fixed gun emplacements for defense or if it's just hand held weapons.
They probably should. I know for a fact Acclamator-class Cruisers had internal defense turrets.
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