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Offline J3Vr6

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Overclocking question?
Hi guys.  I got the 2400 thoroughbred processor for my MSI 6561 that you guys know intimately, and understand that the processor is peachy for overclocking.  I have a couple of issues/questions.

Standard, the bios has the FSB set at 133 and runs fine at approx. 2000 ghz.  I tried to increase it to 166 (which all thoroghbred overclocking webpages say is safe for this processor), leaving the DDR/FSB ratio 1:1 (so the DDR shows 333, PCI/AGP shows 33 and 66, respectively).  I save and the computer will not restart immediately.  I hit the reset button and as it's loading, it tells me: "DDR/FSB Frequency Mistake" and resets the FSB to 100.  

So I tried again at 166 and changed the DDR/FSB ratio to 5:4 which sets the DDR memory as 266, PCI/AGP showing 33 and 66 (respectively).  Upon saving and restart, I get the same freeze.  Resetting will get the same "DDR/FSB Frequency Mistake."  What am I doing wrong?  Isn't what I did right?  The memory I'm using is PC2100 66mhz...


My second question how do I lock the PCI/AGP frequencies to 33/66?  If I can get the above issue resolved, I'd like to try to clock at different FSB other than an order of 33.  I read somewhere that you should always have PCI/AGP set at the order of 33...

Ok, guys, get to work and help me out :D
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Offline J3Vr6

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No one has a clue?  At all?
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Offline Martinus

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[color=66ff00]You could try the forums at this site: www.overclockers.co.uk

Other than that I can't really help you.
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Offline Fractux

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OK, well, from what i can tell, you;re being a bit too agressive in your approach.

Firstly, you bough a 2400+, and as far as overclocking potential goes, I don't know what you can expect, seeing as the Thoroughbred B line will cop out at 2200MHZ, on average. So seeing as though your comp is not booting up even with w 5:4 ratio (which takes the memory out of the equation), then your CPU probably can't handle runing at 2166 MHz. Simple as that.

So what you have to do it A:) overclock at small increments to find your CPU's threshhold. or B:) get a better cooling solution.

However, seeing what marginal results you will be capable of getting, i.e 166MHZ, it's hardly worth the investment. I personally say you save your time and don't bother overclocking. As the gains will be minimal.

Also having PC2100 is a major issue here. Depending on what make it is, and what latencies it's runing at at default speeds, you can judge it's overclocking potential. [I.E. if it's low latency runing at 133MHz, it may have potential to go higher. You can try increasing the latencies to overclock it if it's unstable at higher speeds, which really defeats the purpose of overclocking in the first place, especially if you can only boost it marginally].

As far as locking the PCI and AGP clocks, that depends on the motherboard chipset. Some have locked frequencies, but only for some chipsets, which I can't name since I don't know. Read your motherboard manual to find out, or look up info on your chipset to see what's the case  (or look in the BIOS)

Anyways, from your current setup it looks like you will be able to get a marginal overclock.
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Offline Grey Wolf

Your DDR is insufficient. Increase the voltage and loosent the timings. If that fails, buy new ram.
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Offline Taristin

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My por poor duron is incapable of overclocking... Sadly.
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Offline J3Vr6

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Fractux, people have been able to clock this 2400 (which is stock at 2000 ghz) up to 2500+ ghz so I don't think it's the processor that's holding me back.   I think it's more of a memory issue than anything else.

In regards to cooling, I got this big ass heatsink and fan combo that was rated well (I don't remember the name right now) and keeps my computer cool.  I think heat messed up the last processor so I made sure to get a bigger one that would do the job.

I think I tried doing it little by little and it did the same thing, but I can't remember right now if I did that.  But I will try incrementally again and see how far I go.

I loosened the timing and increased the voltage, also, but to no avail.  I'll keep you all posted :)
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Offline Grey Wolf

Let's see..... things that can mess up your overclocking.

1. Memory.
2. Cheap/old motherboard.
3. Insufficient cooling.
4. Poor stepping on the processor.
5. Weak power supply, specifically the +12v rail.

1 and 2 can be fixed by volt-modding or replacement. 3-5 can only be fixed by replacement.
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Offline Flipside

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.....which is stock at 2000 ghz..............


Now THAT's an SCP computer ;)

  

Offline Grey Wolf

:p
A 1.73 Ghz processor with a stock FSB of 133 is far more fun that that, if you run it my way, at least.
2.16 GHz with a FSB of 227, and the DDR running sync.
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