[Lightspeed]

It is possible to do better things than that.

[ShadowDrakken]

looks to me a lot like cigarette smoke in a dark room with a red light shining through it... not very nebulous at all

[jdjtcagle]

Well... this isn't my worst work either lightspeed, look what I did with my new Flash program  BigGuy Vs. LittleGuy

[Lightspeed]

Was talking about your LINK.

[jdjtcagle]

Ya, I know...  I was just shoing you that I have a tendincies for making bad things

[Turambar]

its called a learning curve

[ShadowDrakken]

be glad you have a learning curve... I just have this straight line that starts and ends at 0

[JarC]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
Sorry to say, but if there (IMHO) is something wrong I say it.

If you dont want to hear any honest feedback simply don't post your stuff

This is nothing personal, i'm not trying to offend you or anything - i'm just trying to point out what's bad/needs improvement with your work.

Look at that nebula for example. It looks like anything, but not like a nebula i'm afraid.

now now LS, I know you're a good artist, but that don't mean you have the know-all-end-all inside scoop on how starry skies and nebulaes should or should not look. Nature and the univers have purdy much a way of their own to 'create' things that not in the least look like you would expect...

granted, this nebula looks more like cigarette smoke, but hell, who knows if there isn't a nebula somewhere that DOES look like smoke? and why shound't stars be scattered irregularly in clusters?

donut anyone? (btb, look at the irregularity of the star pattern shining thru...)

Originally posted by jdjtcagle
But, yes you can make almost anything... LINK

now there's an example of exactly how it should NOT look...what a bunch of fake!... the whole point of fs2 artwork is too have it look realistic, this has 'Artist Impression' written all over it in big pink neonletters

[Lightspeed]

Now THAT thing *does* actually look like a nebulaic item, JarC.

I know that I do not 'know-all-end-all inside scoop on how starry skies and nebulaes should or should not look' - but I know how the ones within our proximity (cough cough) look. This way I can tell how it's NOT supposed to look.

[Bobboau]

how's this he has an opinion and he's expressing it, iy pisses me off beond all ends when someone sais "I don't like that" and someone else comes in with a "if you don't have something nice to say don't sa anything at all" atitude, it something I've consitered to be something of a weakness in this comunity for quite some time, our inability to be brutaly honest when something ugly is presented. I remember once someone had literealy stuc a sphere a cube and a pair of cylenders together and called it a ship, and everyone was saying how nice it looked, it was crap, and no one else was willing to say it.

[Fineus]

Now now guys, lets keep it civil at least - but how about this.

If you're going to say it's nice, say why you like it.
If you're going to say you don't like it, say why you don't like it.

I've no problem with criticism so long as it's helpful and allows the person who did the original work to learn why some didn't like it. Simply saying "no, that's not a good nebula" would leave me sitting there thinking "oh.. right.. so what the hell is then? eh?". It's not helpful.

Saying "it's not a good nebula, the colors are off and the contrast between light and dark is poorly done - not to mention the general shape doesn't look cloud/gas like at all.. more like plastic. Try bluring it a lot more around the edges" or something similar would give me something to work with and experiment with.

See what I mean? Be honest if you like, but be helpful while you're at it. It's not hard and it works out for everybody.

[Lightspeed]

Thats what I always try to do.

[Fineus]

Indeed, but it applies to everyone - not just you. At this stage it seems like something that needed to be said again. If criticism is to be encouraged then it should be the right kind (ideally)