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Offline Gloriano

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I think the MC is a regular human, actually. A really beefed-up and surgically-enhanced one, but still human. ;)

http://halosm.bungie.org/story/spartan.html


Whoops I always thinked that master chief was machine
oh well i guess i was wrong:)


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So what does this do to stop bombing attacks on the same soldiers?
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Offline Turnsky

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So what does this do to stop bombing attacks on the same soldiers?


more effective protection, really.. making armor lighter for more effective soldiers without compromising protection.. 'sides, they just look cool :p
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Not exactly what I asked :p


"We cannot fight these soldiers... they look too cool to be killed!"
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EDIT: Ups, double post, someone delete this...
"Closing the Box" - a campaign in the making :nervous:

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Offline aldo_14

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Better armour can't hurt...... if you can increase the chances of a soldier surviving an attack - be it sniper, infantry, explosive, etc - then you decrease the effectiveness of those attacks as a tactic.  Of course, it has to be matched with training as well.  

There's a reason the SAS are the best in the world, and it isn't equipment.

 

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Bloody hell, that 2020 guy looks like he's gonna go march over some hippy-assed protesters! :O
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Offline Gloriano

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There's a reason the SAS are the best in the world, and it isn't equipment.


:nod:Skills are most important and then good armor
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Offline jdjtcagle

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Does anybody remeber my thread about this? :D

(skills vs tech)

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,24439.0.html
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Offline Gloriano

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Originally posted by jdjtcagle
Does anybody remeber my thread about this? :D

(skills vs tech)

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,24439.0.html


But if you don't have skills you are dead for sure even you have high tech armor

those who have skills are going be alive longer..
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Offline jdjtcagle

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:rolleyes:

That's not my point! :p

We discused this "already" and came up with a conclusion... I'll find a quote I liked :)
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Offline jdjtcagle

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The fact of the matter is that to a large part it makes no difference, because if American soldiers went back to old style equipment and techniques, it would simply make them all the more vulnerable to other countries' newer stuff.

America got a wake up call regarding it's airforce recently during some trials against the kind of planes they would be facing in several world conflict situations. It seems the American planes aren't nearly as far ahead on technology as the Military thought. In particular, French Mirages and Russian Migs (I think) both performed far far better than it was thought they would.

That's why these soldiers MUST learn the newest technology, because everyone elses are.....

However, if they are not teaching that soldier how to survive when that equipment is not available, then they are sending them out to war without the single most important tool they can have.
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The new armor will not only be more resistant, but it will have infrared sensors and all possible high-tech stuff

Training & skill are important, but a guy in such a armor has a huge advantage.. I mean, SUV's and other squad members are sending data to him..you can't sneak up on him, he can see you behind a wall or in the dark, etc, etc..
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Offline Flaser

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...and when a little hitch enters the system, or the enviroment negates that advantage, then what?

Trashman we don't underestimate technology.

It is simply that training is just as important as technology. The fact that the only thing a soldier can always trust is himself and his brains - the rest are tools.

Now, if you invade a country and your toys srewed up, you just say: "I can't do it without them, I quit!" - in the middle of the jungle than you'll earn some pretty troubled looks from your warbuddies.

Technology is nice and good, but just as Vietnam, Korea, and recenlty Iraq itself has prooven it, it's advantage is way overrated.
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Offline Unknown Target

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Problem is, I think the US Army, and armies all over the world (NOT just the US) is too concerned with percents and not training.
Although I admit this will give US soldiers and possibly their allies a definate advantage, if it works like they say it will.

 

Offline TrashMan

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I never underestimated training.

Of course it's incredibly important. I just said that a combat system like this is a huge advantage. Not only protection wise, but detection wise allso.

A normal soldir in this armor could probably kick a SAS ass.

Then again, a Delta Force member in a armor like this and you have a lean, mean fighting machine.....
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Or some bloke standing at the side of the battlefield trying to press his nose, his ankle and his right ear to reset the system ;)

 

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Technology is only useful in controlled environments.

Technology doesn't always garauntee a victory; only the type of soldiers you send always does.
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Offline Gloriano

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Originally posted by TrashMan
The new armor will not only be more resistant, but it will have infrared sensors and all possible high-tech stuff

Training & skill are important, but a guy in such a armor has a huge advantage.. I mean, SUV's and other squad members are sending data to him..you can't sneak up on him, he can see you behind a wall or in the dark, etc, etc..



Until someone makes EMP-Weapon

and middle of battle field high tech armor are somewhat useless
without skills


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A normal soldir in this armor could probably kick a SAS ass


SAS are Special force they have far better training than normal soldier and SAS use tactics like going silent and eliminate targer from distance etc.

Normal soldiers just trained that well
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