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Offline pyro-manic

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Offline WeatherOp

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I want one of these.:D A guy really had one made for like $3,000.

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Offline Tiara

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People here seem to think that a katana is inferior to medieval swords. So dead wrong. Both have their pros and cons. Assuming we have two equally trained persons with the respective weapons, there are various factors you must consider.

For one, the person wielding the katana has the advantage of speed and agility against the more sluggish sword. A real katana also usually has hit range on it's size because the wielder can more easily extend his/her full arm due to the light weight of the katana. Whereas the sword wielder has a harder time extending his arm fully and still keep full thrust force behind it.

It's a classic brute force Vs speed and agilty match-up. It can go either way.

Personally I prefer a katana.

Here, Katana Vs gun! The katana literally splits the bullet in half! :drevil: It went through solid baboo and stone as well...
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Offline Andreas

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Sword: Epee
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Offline pyro-manic

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Epee? You big ponce.... :p
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Offline Killfrenzy

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Katana/Wakizashi dual wield. But that's just me! :D

Alternatively, a traditional Chinese sword like the one Xianghua fights with in Soul Calibur.

*Goes off to polish his display Katana/Wakizashi/Tanto set*
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Offline mrfun

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*conceals dissapointment*  I guess thats what a blacksmith gets for paying attention to a discussion about swords on a gamers forum.  Noone appreciates true quality swords :(

Now, instead of being intolerably rude and taking a swipe at everone I'll just tell you where to go if you're interested.  If you really like swords and want to educate yourselves about the real article, and why there's such a big difference, visit http://forums.swordforum.com  and start reading.

 

Offline Dark_4ce

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If I had cash I would get THIS!

http://www.weaponmasters.com/?ID=WEAPONS&SORT=PRICE_DN&ITEM=WM-1739

Though I'm happy with Narsil for now.
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Offline Flaser

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Actually I have only recently learnt that most katana would be useless against armor.
The reason is not that they would break or shatter.

The truth lies in the nature of the edge - it was a cutting edge sharpened like a razor. Excelent for cutting through flesh and soft material - even the light armor of samurais.
Since we don't use any true plate armor nowadays, the katana or swords of similar fashion could be the choice of sword.

The problem with a katana against a knight lies in the interaction between blade an armor: Even if the katana managed to pierce the armor, its edge would be probably blunted, flawing the weapon and it would get stuck.
Medieval swords weren't sharepened like that - they were blunt like a buttler's axe, and instead cutting they splinted, shattering the armor.

Knight's swordfight wasn't elegant or graceful - it was force against force where the knight did their best to open the other's full body can with their opener.

It wasn't until rapiers (light swords suited for a time where no whatsoever armor was used) came to be that the modern gracefull sword wielding came to be.



My choice of close combat wepon, the Khopish or Falcata. It was the Macedon's sword and later thrak gladiators used it in the arena.

It is a shortsword, but nowadays I don't think close combat would take place where you have enough room to move a long blade.

It only has a single blade.



Just like the Sica its blade is curced to ward the cutting edge allowing it to reah behing shields, or whatever the opponent tries to protect himself with.

It has a splitting edge just like medieval swords, and although a pure cutting blade may be suited better for current conditions I take no risk - even if I merly crush my opponents bones, I still win.
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I guess a good shotgun will always do the trick in the end.
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Offline Clave

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Ummm....

*re-reads topic title*

Ya, hammer the barrels flat, and grind an edge, then you may have something....
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Offline Dark_4ce

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I'd be going for a gladius as well. Nice and wieldable, good for brunt force, and not to bad on the wrist. Mind, if I could pick axes as well, I'd go for a medium sized axe (one hand). Good for utility work as well. OTOH, a hayfork can be rather harmfull as well.
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Offline Flipside

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Curiously enough, one of the more effective weapons employed against cavalry was the boating hook, it didn't do much damage as such, but it was great at un-horsing cavalry from range.

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Originally posted by Flaser


My choice of close combat wepon, the Khopish or Falcata. It was the Macedon's sword and later thrak gladiators used it in the arena.

It is a shortsword, but nowadays I don't think close combat would take place where you have enough room to move a long blade.

It only has a single blade.



Just like the Sica its blade is curced to ward the cutting edge allowing it to reah behing shields, or whatever the opponent tries to protect himself with.

It has a splitting edge just like medieval swords, and although a pure cutting blade may be suited better for current conditions I take no risk - even if I merly crush my opponents bones, I still win.
Those bear a stunning resemblance to a kukri.
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Offline pyro-manic

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Originally posted by mrfun
*conceals dissapointment*  I guess thats what a blacksmith gets for paying attention to a discussion about swords on a gamers forum.  Noone appreciates true quality swords :(

Now, instead of being intolerably rude and taking a swipe at everone I'll just tell you where to go if you're interested.  If you really like swords and want to educate yourselves about the real article, and why there's such a big difference, visit http://forums.swordforum.com  and start reading.


Thanks - I'll check it out. :)
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