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Offline Jal-18

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Why I despise "Bearbaiting"...
I think a worse mission by far though is Proving Grounds:

You're in a crappy fighter, with crappy weapons, using a missile that does no damage, can't track, and is completely dumb, in the middle of a dense nebula, lightning going off around you, a single wingman, drunken gunners on the Warspite, and several dozen Shivan fighters and bombers advancing left and right.

I hate this mission with a passion.  It's the single most pointless mission in the game.  You're basically testing the prototype for a missile that 90% of players are never going to use again.

 

Offline Goober5000

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All the Barracuda missions are crap.  But I like "A Game of TAG" most out of the three of them because of the atmosphere.  And Kappa 3. ;)

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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By the end of that one, I had one Aeolus left at 11%, and the Bastion itself was all the way down to 5% by virtue of a last-second Helios


My favorite part about that is that any Aeolus that survives seems to show up in the next mission. A nice touch of continuity.

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Command: "Capella has gone supernova! Repeat, Capella has gone supernova! You must get to the Vega node and engage your jump drives now!"
Wingman: "Disengaging now for repair!"


Pathological liar, maybe? ;) "Yeah, I would've stayed and beaten that sun, but I was out of ammo for my rockeyes."
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and...well..."Really big sun 'splosion" :p.  (I've never been able to remember that one's name, but I somehow think you know what I'm talking about. :p)


It's called 'Apocalypse.'

My most hated missions are the Barracudas, and the twin 'Save the Aquitaine' missions.

I never understood why the capships didn't fire in 'Their Finest Hour.' It would have been so cool if beam-free-all was on our ships.

Fave mission- Into the Lion's Den (that's the one where you fly the Maras right?)

Bearbaiting isn't too bad (although I always play on Very Easy). I call in support straight away, so it follows me around and is quick to reload. Full burn towards each turret and let rip double helioses. Rinse and repeat. Occasionally one might go down to 13% or something, but I'm happy finishing with 3 turrets disabled.

 

Offline karajorma

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Fave mission- Into the Lion's Den (that's the one where you fly the Maras right?)


I think it's fairly safe to say that for about 90% of us that's the favourite mission. :D

I'm yet to meet anyone who wouldn't put it in their top 5 :D
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Offline Mongoose

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Yeah, that 92% was referring to my integrity, not the Bastion's. :p

Goober, that scenario has to be one of the funniest I've heard in FS2.  That just has to be worked into Deus Ex Machina 2. :p

High Max, when I said "overwhelming," I wasn't referring to a Battle-of-Endoresque fight.  I was talking about in terms of fighting/mission events.  In both missions, you're heavily outnumbered, and your wingmen get pretty pounded.  Even more than that, though, is the fact that casualties among your escort ships aren't only acceptable, they're inevitable.  You truly feel like you're taking the pounding of your life, and they're nothing you can do about it.  The Shivans are winning; you're losing.  And no, as far as I know, killing that bonus turret doesn't change the debriefing; it just garners you extra points.  You could always extract the mission and check it in FRED, though.

Something funny about "A Game of TAG": on my most recent run through it, Kappa 3 survived!  It was kind of funny; I was expecting Command's usual "This has been classified level Phi" spiel, but nope, I guess I can talk about it now. :p

I agree:  those weapons-testing ones weren't the best overall.  The first one, where you escort the AWACS ship and freighter, isn't so bad, but "A Game of TAG" is lacking, and "Proving Grounds" ranks up there as one of my least favorite.  However, I'm with the overwhelming majority on "Into the Lion's Den." :D

 

Offline NGTM-1R

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I actually liked "A Game of TAG". There's something cool about watching a Basilisk get buried under an avalanche of flak and triple-A beams when you TAG it...
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Offline BlackDove

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HUMM......urr.............right.

1. I've always found that the harder the setting on the Sathanas mission, the easier the turret mauling. Maybe it's my imagination, but your Helios rip a much bigger damage on harder levels of combat, so essentially, all you have to do is shoot the beams four times for them to die (double launch of course).

The way to get the fighters off your back is to c38 your wingmen a lot, and the way to get the flak off your ass is to Treb it (you don't start at 9000 for nothing) and for the other flak cannon, to have support on your ass at all times (it tries to dock with you, but you keep moving, so it's covering you.)

The Demon itself is easy, and you don't need wingmen for it. Again, since the damage values are higher, what you do is you kick it's beam cannons with your trebs, and then nuke it's engine with one salvo of well aimed Helios.

The pain of this mission is getting all those variables to work properly, but it's possible, and not _that_ hard.

2. The Hinton/Iceni mission. Urrrr......I'm sorry, what's so hard about that one? I mean I've never had the waypoints for them to collide (actually maybe I did, but I didn't care), but all you have to do in that mission is kill Sekhmet/Bakha first and Tauret second. I think you can take a ****load of tempests in that Herc1, and the guns on it are spectacular enough to take care of anything that strays (like them asteroids).

3. Tiamat one. Yeah I had a lot of grief with that one until I figured out the same thing as the first thing. Beams deal a lot greater damage on higher levels of difficulty (again, maybe my imagination, but I just found it to be true). All you have to do is make the Tiamat in your sensor range as soon as it jumps in, and take out it's two beam turrets when the fighter/bomber Shivan salvo is resting.

After that, you can try to keep close to it, but I just prioritise little ****ers and let Aquitaine do it's job (it always does).

Hurrrrrrrrm............yea.

 

Offline Flipside

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My least favourite missions are the deception/stealth ones, simply because I don't have the patience for it. I ended up skipping the FS1 mission where you are in the captured Shivan fighter because it was too bloody frustrating :(

 

Offline Kie99

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You can skip missions in FS1???
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He hacked the campaign in FRED.
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Offline Roanoke

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My least favourite missions are the deception/stealth ones, simply because I don't have the patience for it. I ended up skipping the FS1 mission where you are in the captured Shivan fighter because it was too bloody frustrating :(


It's fine the first couple of times but then it gets frickin' tiresome.

 

Offline Nuclear1

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My least favourite missions are the deception/stealth ones, simply because I don't have the patience for it. I ended up skipping the FS1 mission where you are in the captured Shivan fighter because it was too bloody frustrating :(


:wtf:

I never found that one difficult in the least. I always just send Alpha to disable the Dragon right off the bat, then let Beta do its job on the Shakti. This all on Medium at least.
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Offline Goober5000

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That's not the mission he means.  It's the one after that.

 

Offline WMCoolmon

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Originally posted by Flipside
My least favourite missions are the deception/stealth ones, simply because I don't have the patience for it. I ended up skipping the FS1 mission where you are in the captured Shivan fighter because it was too bloody frustrating :(


The trick for those are to use the keybinds, and map all targets to one key. Then whenever you're not scanning something, you just press that key and watch for numbers smaller than 500 or so (and shrinking).

You can usually exclude everything but fighters/sentry guns from that keybind, so the screen edges don't get too cluttered.
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Offline Mongoose

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I've never had any problems with "Playing Judas" myself.  Whenever Command alerts me to an approaching fighter,  I target the nearest hostile and simply pulse my burners in the opposite direction.  I've never even bothered to figure out the patterns. This being said, I've never played at anything more difficult than "Easy," so it may be a different story on harder levels.

 

Offline FireCrack

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I hated playing judas. Infact, my first post here was asking for help on it.
actualy, mabye not.
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Offline Kie99

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Your first post was actually in Helios Vs. Harbinger.
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