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Originally posted by kode
phelps is... unique.

and he's supposedly coming to sweden, I've heard. I wonder why, though, he hates us. I 'hope' he doesn't get 'hurt'.


Your government arrested a minister for preaching homophobia from the pulpit. Though the guy was released later, this action has prompted Phelps to decry Sweden on one of his websites thusly:

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[homosexuals] have a 3 point agenda:  1) decriminalize sodomy, 2) add [homosexuals] to the protected classes as victims like blacks, and 3) criminalize Gospel preaching against [homosexuals].  Sweden's doom is now irreversible!

With the arrest of Ake Green, Swedes have allowed the filthy sodomite agenda to be completely fulfilled.   See our monument to Pastor Green here.  Just because Green's conviction has been overturned, don't think that makes things right!  The fact that the vast majority of the Swedish population either sat by silently while this rape of justice took place, or actually applauded it, solidifies the idea that Sweden is a land of the damned.

Just because Green preaches the doctrine of devils that "God loves everyone" doesn't make it right for Sweden to arrest him for also preaching that [homosexuals] are an abomination (Lev. 18:22).

With this act, as well as the vitriolic response given to this preaching, Sweden has drawn to it the wrath and mocking of God!


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With this act, as well as the vitriolic response given to this preaching, Sweden has drawn to it the wrath and mocking of God!


There's only one thing being mocked here, and it sure as hell ain't Sweden :hammer:.
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so... this guy says homosexuality is bad yet beating his wife and kids is okay? sth partaken of willingly as opposed to not?
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Offline Martinus

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[color=66ff00]Something just struck me about the idea of the death of civility.

Surely the fairly clear negative response to the actions of this guy in this thread would suggest that civility is alive and well?
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Offline redmenace

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well in retrospect, I have seen a decline in civility. Especially with the Iraq war and such.
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well in retrospect, I have seen a decline in civility. Especially with the Iraq war and such.

[color=66ff00]The Iraq war was an exercise in brainwashing facilitated by the media. You think if the protests had got the same level of coverage as the war it would still be going on?

A small number of bad people used their influence to sway a large number of uneducated people in order to make money.
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Offline Bobboau

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actualy the protests did get a lot of coverage, it seemed to help actualy.
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Originally posted by mikhael


Your government arrested a minister for preaching homophobia from the pulpit. Though the guy was released later, this action has prompted Phelps to decry Sweden on one of his websites thusly:
 

Sounds like Sweden alright, no offence intended. They're rather harsh on the ol' civil liberties.

Though I wonder if it has ever occured to Phelps that going to a country which has just prosecuted a priest of preaching what I must only assume is mild in comparison to Phelps' own rhetoric probably isn't the smartest thing to do.

 

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actualy the protests did get a lot of coverage, it seemed to help actualy.


I dunno....... a lot of use only really knew about protests in our own country.  How much did we see of (being mostly UK/US) the protests in Cairo, Istandbul, Oviedo, Belfast, Calcutta, Sao Paolo, Seville, Damascus etc?  Over a million people marched in London - but how much coverage was given to the 100,000 in Dublic, or the 80,000 in Glasgow.  Hell, there was even a (understandably small - 50 people) protest at McMurdo Station in the artic.

How much coverage was there of the protests in March this year?  Apparently MSBC gave the number in London as 10,000 - police gave it as 45,000, for example.

But it's not mentioned all that often.  Even on the beeb, which was otherwise excellent in its fair-handed coverage of the war and the buildup.
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But it's not mentioned all that often.  Even on the beeb, which was otherwise excellent in its fair-handed coverage of the war and the buildup.


Remember what happened to the Director General's office after that period though. That would explain the shift.
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Offline Bobboau

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I was thinking the protests during the build up, and no matter what happend they never served to diswade people, in fact we started getting people protesting the protests. during this time those of us suporting the war were convinveced due to amung other reasons that old political rivals to Bush (Clinton, Gore, Kerry) had said the same thing in the past that he was now saying and to many it seemed the only reason they changed there minds was because a republican was now saying it, and the fact that if he was wrong it was going to not only destroy him but the rest of the republican party, it is a mirical that he got reelected, only the democrats complete and utter ineptitude at provideing a decent alternative prevented his loss, mark my words the republicans are going to start looseing power starting next election.
now you have 60-70% of the people absolutely convinced that there is at least a huge stockpile of chemical weapons in Iraq and that he is fully capable and motivated to use them, if you start showing protestors all your going to do is make these people definceive and thicker skulled, and that is just what happened, the more people protest the firmer the suport for the war became. it wasn't untill a year later and we haddn't found a drop, or a single peice of paper to justify the war that suport began to wane, and the only reason people suport it now is basicly either a 'we need to clean up our mess' mentality or recognition that a large number of people we should have been fighter have moved in to were we were fighting. prety much no one thinks in retrospect that invadeing Iraq was such a great idea, and now were just trying to fix as much of the damage we caused as we posably can.
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:rolleyes:

wrong thread?

 

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Welcome to the real world..........people are bastards.  Only thing you can do is take the good ones, and try to get by the bad ones.

  

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Originally posted by mikhael


Your government arrested a minister for preaching homophobia from the pulpit. Though the guy was released later, this action has prompted Phelps to decry Sweden on one of his websites thusly:
 


yeah, I know. Åke Green (who was the one arrested) doesn't really like phelps either.
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