[Col. Fishguts]

Uhm, I'm trying to figure out how this is possible. The thruster glows and plumes are present on some fighters but not on others. I mean it's the same map that gets used, so it's definitely there, but just doesn't show up in some cases.

This is 3.6.7, without any mods installed. I doubt it's VP related, as it happens with TBP too. So, what's going on ?

[WMCoolmon]

Goober broke them because he didn't like how messy the code was.

[Wanderer]

I had similar problem with some builds. If this is the same problem i had you could try what was done here. This might work only if you have suffered from the missing thruster effects on fightertypes that weren't originally fredded to the mission but were selected from the loadout screen.

I got it working by using 20/09 build.

[Col. Fishguts]

Oh yes, it is in fact that bug:

Posted by Stratcomm in another thread:

Could this thruster problem perhaps be a manifestation of Mantis bug #559? I.e. are the ships without glows ships that you have assigned to a wing in loadout rather than in FRED? If so, try it on one of the most recent builds as I think that's been fixed.

I should have noticed that it only happened to fighters changed in the loadout. Thanks for the clarification.

[Bobboau]

did I not specificly say to test ships that the player had changed?

[Col. Fishguts]

Originally posted by Wanderer

I got it working by using 20/09 build.

Is the 20/09 build still available somewhere ? Since with the most recent CVS builds thuster glows are completely gone (on all ships), and as an added bonus there's no sound/music

[Goober5000]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Goober broke them because he didn't like how messy the code was.

Read the original post...

Originally posted by Col. Fishguts
This is 3.6.7

My changes went in after 3.6.7.

[Wanderer]

Try some of the files from here. I think there might be some newer ones without the current thruster etc. problems.

Wow, some one seems to have been tidying the place and putting files into folders!

You should find that rar under the September2005 folder.

[WMCoolmon]

Originally posted by Goober5000
Read the original post...My changes went in after 3.6.7.

Yeah, my mistake, sorry. I thought he was using a post-3.6.7 build.

[taylor]

Originally posted by WMCoolmon
Yeah, my mistake, sorry. I thought he was using a post-3.6.7 build.

Thrusters are indeed broken in 3.6.7 if that particular ship isn't in the mission already.  If the ship was added during the briefing in shipselect then it never loaded the thruster bitmaps.  It got fixed post-3.6.7 with a one line commit.

[StratComm]

As I said earlier, this bug has actually been around for quite a long time.  I can't figure out why now that it's been fixed everyone is suddenly seeing it.

[Wanderer]

Could it be that non fredded ships (fighter and bombers) are often only used by the player and so the missing thruster effects were not seen?

[StratComm]

Still doesn't explain why it's cropping up now though.