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Offline Cobra

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I sometimes wonder how he manages to remain in business. Are his games actually commercial successes? Who publishes them? And are they one man shows or does he have other developers working under him?

Just barely. He hyped Battlecruiser so much that people actually bought the game, but then couldn't sell the game because Take Two didn't do enough advertising or something.

He doesn't like our TCs because they're done oh so much better than his games, and they look current generation.
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Offline Desert Tyrant

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I sometimes wonder how he manages to remain in business. Are his games actually commercial successes? Who publishes them? And are they one man shows or does he have other developers working under him?

Just barely. He hyped Battlecruiser so much that people actually bought the game, but then couldn't sell the game because Take Two didn't do enough advertising or something.

He doesn't like our TCs because they're done oh so much better than his games, and they look current generation.

He really is the complete epitome of a sore loser, once you really think about it. 

I think he really doesn't get the burden of admitting that he oh just might be wrong.  Just makes me wonder sometimes...

 

Offline Bob-san

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Oh ****--I don't remember starting that.

http://forums.avault.com/showthread.php?s=78aba84b179c1e23c8fbdd7535864c02&p=304441#post304441


Crap--I don't have any recollection of even being at that forum.

Great.... :doubt:
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Offline colecampbell666

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What's with the guy who kept saying "GORE!!!"
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Bob-san

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I think it would be funny if we started acting like members of his forum and hype our own releases. Oh and since when did Aldo want the FS license to die with FS2?
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Offline colecampbell666

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http://follies.werewolves.org/

A site dedicated to flaming Derek Stupid!


* Cole thinks that this is one of many
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Hippo

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lol, my 3000ad account made during the ****storm still exists
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Offline Jeff Vader

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He doesn't like our TCs because they're done oh so much better than his games, and they look current generation.
That and the fact that our TCs are free, whereas he has to make a living with his games. Really makes you think. Somehow it is possible for him to stay in business with ugly, buggy and way too complex games, when at the same time courageous people here make positively stunning and entertaining TCs from the FSO engine, for free.

On a side note, I found it ironic, when a while back I visited his site and decided to take a look at his personal bio pdf (don't ask why). And what do you know? The damn thing totally crashed my pdf reader.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Hippo

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actually the only policy of his i like is that he makes games free once they ran their shelf life (not that i've played any nor want to, its just a friendly business face if you dont see the coke machine raping moster behind it)
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Offline S-99

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http://follies.werewolves.org/

A site dedicated to flaming Derek Stupid!


* Cole thinks that this is one of many

That site is has a link for it in wikipedia too on the bc3k entry.

EDIT: For giggles i'm going to actually play battlecruiser milenium. I'll probably smart my pants though.
« Last Edit: October 14, 2007, 06:34:10 am by S-99 »
Every pilot's goal is to rise up in the ranks and go beyond their purpose to a place of command on a very big ship. Like the colossus; to baseball bat everyone.

SMBFD

I won't use google for you.

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Offline Hades

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Hey when you done, tell us how [sarcasm]good[/sarcasm] it was. :P
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
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<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Quote from: 'List of commercial failures in video gaming' article in Wikipedia
It [Battlecruiser 3000AD] employed outdated graphics, MIDI music, a cryptic interface, and contained almost no documentation - a huge problem since the commands were unintuitive (e.g. Alt-Ctrl-E to fire weapons).
Alt-Ctrl-E for firing weapons? What the hell was he on when he worked on the user interface?
« Last Edit: October 14, 2007, 07:31:18 am by Lobo »
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Hades

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What ever the hell he is on 24 seven!
(Meth, Coke, Weed, Retarded Pills, and Beer).
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline colecampbell666

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actually the only policy of his i like is that he makes games free once they ran their shelf life (not that i've played any nor want to, its just a friendly business face if you dont see the coke machine raping moster behind it)
Our games are free from the start, and the only reason he does this is because no one buys them, so he releases them anyway because he isn't losing money by doing it anyway.

EDIT: I know one thing that never happened:


:welcome: DSmart [3000AD]!
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Offline Hades

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He is the one person you do not welcome.
[22:29] <sigtau> Hello, #hard-light?  I'm trying to tell a girl she looks really good for someone who doesn't exercise.  How do I word that non-offensively?
[22:29] <RangerKarl|AtWork> "you look like a big tasty muffin"
----
<batwota> wouldn’t that mean that it’s prepared to kiss your ass if you flank it :p
<batwota> wow
<batwota> KILL

 

Offline CP5670

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actually the only policy of his i like is that he makes games free once they ran their shelf life (not that i've played any nor want to, its just a friendly business face if you dont see the coke machine raping moster behind it)
Our games are free from the start, and the only reason he does this is because no one buys them, so he releases them anyway because he isn't losing money by doing it anyway.

He probably uses them like demos, i.e. a way to entice people to buy his more recent games, as each of his games is essentially just an upgraded version of the previous one.

 

Offline Roanoke

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He probably uses them like demos, i.e. a way to entice people to buy his more recent games, as each of his games is essentially just an upgraded version of the previous one.

let me correct that for you:

"He probably uses them like demos, i.e. a way to entice people to buy his more recent games, as each of his games is essentially just a regurgitated version of the previous one."


 

Offline Cobra

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EDIT: For giggles i'm going to actually play battlecruiser milenium. I'll probably smart my pants though.

Good luck figuring out what the hell you have to do. I couldn't even figure out how to get the damn ship to move. All I figured out was how to switch to a space suit.
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 

Offline Inquisitor

You MUST read the manuals to play his games. And if you don't, you're an idiot for trying. Its just a fact of a 3000AD game. I totally disagree with that from a game design standpoint, but it works well enough for him. People do buy them.

Derek loves a good flame war, he's not any worse than many netizens, he just has more money and attracts hate like a magnet.

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Offline Flipside

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As far as the whole manual thing is concerned, it needs to be remembered that what Derek is aiming at is massive in scope, you couldn't just sit down at a D&D game and know how to play instinctively, that's not how those sort of games work, even Neverwinter Nights had a ridiculously complex manual, though most of it you don't need to read unless you're really obsessive about the game.

I'll reserve my comments on the outcome of those attempts at massive scope, but, ironically enough, I do understand what Derek is trying to do, and it's not a terrible idea, regardless of execution, or, indeed, the personality of the writer.