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Re: The GTVA using Iceni frigates post-Capella
Ah OK, I was stuck on the wrong side of the node. :nervous:

If you try to get capships (Icenis or whatever) through a Shivan nodeblockade... just don't. I'd secure the far side and then weaken/remove the blockade through massive use of bombers.

In my mod the GTVA would have other means of removing a nodeblockade; Subspace Cruise Missiles and stuff like that.

 

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Drones/Stealths to scout the node area -> Heavy fighters/light bombers to strip enemy warships from beams -> [optional] Heavy bombers to kill some big **** -> Capships. Iceni would work well in such scenario, but with good bombers and fighters GTVA maintain, they would be enough either to weaken or completely decimate the blockade. Even not heaviest of capships like Deimos, Sobek or Aeolus would be enough.

Ancient-Shivan War has one very nice mission like this. A single corvette was capable of breaking through shivan blockade.
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Re: The GTVA using Iceni frigates post-Capella
Considering that ships can theoretically emerge from a subspace portal in any direction, it makes sense to have something like the Iceni guarding over it - the frigate's firepower would be more effective in dealing with larger threats at a range, while it can provide supporting fire to friendly fighters and bombers.

The problem is that the GTVA is probably still the dominant force in every star system they control post-Capella, both the Terrans and Vasudans have cruisers and corvettes that might be able to do the job just fine (e.g. Naxos in Love the Treason; Thebes in Bearbaiting; Nebtuu in Exodus), and it's probably more cost-effective to send fighters in to do scouting first, before sending in bigger guns (The Sicilian Defense). A frigate might fill the gap left behind by all the warships the Alliance lost in Capella, but then there's the cost of manufacturing an entirely new line of frigates based on one example that no longer exists. It seems like a huge risk compared to the continuous manufacture of ships that have a proven combat record.
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Re: The GTVA using Iceni frigates post-Capella
The problem is that the GTVA is probably still the dominant force in every star system they control post-Capella, both the Terrans and Vasudans have cruisers and corvettes that might be able to do the job just fine (e.g. Naxos in Love the Treason; Thebes in Bearbaiting; Nebtuu in Exodus), and it's probably more cost-effective to send fighters in to do scouting first, before sending in bigger guns (The Sicilian Defense). A frigate might fill the gap left behind by all the warships the Alliance lost in Capella, but then there's the cost of manufacturing an entirely new line of frigates based on one example that no longer exists. It seems like a huge risk compared to the continuous manufacture of ships that have a proven combat record.

The Iceni has much, much more firepower than a Sobek or Deimos - 3 BGreen vs a bunch of TerSlash. Besides that there's no evidence that the yards in Polaris have been destroyed or the ability to produce this ships has been lost. I could imagine that the tech behind that would be very expensive in the beginning, but such are most newly developed things.

  
Re: The GTVA using Iceni frigates post-Capella
Indeed, going by tabled values, the Iceni-class can dish out up to about 80k in a single salvo vs 18k for the Sobek. That's a rather incredible figure for its size, only the Lilith and fixed Mjolnir can contend for a better firepower/size ratio.
Outside standard canon, the BP-verse Bellerophon actually comes close (not accounting for damage mitigation), but the Chimera is left in the dust.