[gevatter Lars]

I don't know how many people here know the Kilrathi Dreadnought, but here are some pics.
The ship itself is quite far away from beeing finished and its more something for looking if its possible to make a such huge ship in FS.

http://www.8ung.at/wcsaga_ftp/screen00.jpg
http://www.8ung.at/wcsaga_ftp/screen04.jpg
http://www.8ung.at/wcsaga_ftp/screen06.jpg

The smaller ship beside the bigger one is only ~2km long. The Kilrathi DN is about 22km long and it take a hole minute until this ship is completly destroyed.
(until the explosion ani ends)

[IceFire]

Now why is the Vesivius carrier not pummeling the Dreadnought with its mass quanities of Heavy Laser turrets?

[Sheepy]

Its big, its mean, and most of all its GREY!!!;7

[Unknown Target]

...and blocky;7
Seriously, with a ship that size, it could stand some more rounded surfaces. I've never seen the---oh! It's Kilrathi! I thought it was NARN! Oh, then, well, I guess it's ok;)

[Shrike]

Originally posted by IceFire
Now why is the Vesivius carrier not pummeling the Dreadnought with its mass quanities of Heavy Laser turrets?

AMGs actually.

[gevatter Lars]

@ Icefire
The Vesuvius is firing, but I was to far away so the laser aren't visible, maybe if you look quite close you will notice some small yellow shoots.

@ Sheepy and @ Unkown Target
I know that its grey, boxy and I have said it just a test if FS can handle a such big ship

@ Shrike
It has AMG and Laser turrets, maybe we will also add a Capship torpedo luncher.

[Nico]

Originally posted by gevatter Lars
I don't know how many people here know the Kilrathi Dreadnought, but here are some pics.
The ship itself is quite far away from beeing finished and its more something for looking if its possible to make a such huge ship in FS.

http://www.8ung.at/wcsaga_ftp/screen00.jpg
http://www.8ung.at/wcsaga_ftp/screen04.jpg
http://www.8ung.at/wcsaga_ftp/screen06.jpg

The smaller ship beside the bigger one is only ~2km long. The Kilrathi DN is about 22km long and it take a hole minute until this ship is completly destroyed.
(until the explosion ani ends)

22km? don't worry, I have a 120km long ship that works, it has turrets, no bug.

[Nico]

vesuvius weapons? there you go :

Guns Dual-Mount Anti-Matter Gun (14), Mass-Driver Turret (16), Dual-Mount Laser Turret (24), Torpedo Tube (2)

[gevatter Lars]

Wow someone not involved in our WC mod that knows more about the vesuvius then me...respect.
About this 120km long thing (is it a small moon made of metal with a quite strong beam in front of it?) do you have a screenshot?
About the weapon loudout of the ships, we will try to keep the game playable, the Vesuvius would be coverd with guns and you can't get trought the defence of that ship..or any other cap if we would give every ship the weapons it should have. I think we will stay closer to the cames...
Beside that, where have you found this specs for the Vesuvius?

[Nico]

Originally posted by gevatter Lars
Wow someone not involved in our WC mod that knows more about the vesuvius then me...respect.
About this 120km long thing (is it a small moon made of metal with a quite strong beam in front of it?) do you have a screenshot?
About the weapon loudout of the ships, we will try to keep the game playable, the Vesuvius would be coverd with guns and you can't get trought the defence of that ship..or any other cap if we would give every ship the weapons it should have. I think we will stay closer to the cames...
Beside that, where have you found this specs for the Vesuvius?

1) heh
2) nah, sorry, I made it for someone else, and it's kept hidden until he decides to show it.
3)I have a 3km long ship with 71 turrets ( the duat ), works fine, all his about weapon and mission balance
4) the wing commander CIC ( http://www.wcnews.com/ )

[Colonol Dekker]

GL, any plans to remake the Behemoth, who needs defense when you have Sh*tloads of accellerator conduits ENOUGH TO BLOW A PLANET !!   muahahahah  see its smaller than a DN, it just proves its not the size its the quality,  not that i have a small **** anyway

[IceFire]

Originally posted by gevatter Lars
@ Icefire
The Vesuvius is firing, but I was to far away so the laser aren't visible, maybe if you look quite close you will notice some small yellow shoots.

@ Sheepy and @ Unkown Target
I know that its grey, boxy and I have said it just a test if FS can handle a such big ship

@ Shrike
It has AMG and Laser turrets, maybe we will also add a Capship torpedo luncher.

Obviously your bolts are not long enough.  AMG's should be like 80 length in FS2 terms

As far as I know, the WC4 Vesuvius was armed with only Heavy Laser turrets...that used the sound effect from the Ion Cannon on your fighter in the cinematics and standard laser turret sound in the game.  Seemingly the idea being that you pummel your target with a series of high energy ion blasts to make the shield crumple...instead of the big blast anti-matter that puts holes in things.

Nibbled to death by Ion's or blown apart by AMG Howitzers

[gevatter Lars]

@Venom
To bad it would be nice to see it, but I understand it.

@ C.Dekker
We will make every ship of the WC Series including the Behemoth.
If you mean a complet Behemoth (the one in WC3 was not complet) its something we have to talk about.

@Ice Fire
The bolds are long enough, its just that the viewing point it quite far away and the DN is so big that everything looks like little insects.
I will see if I could make a better pic of a Battle.
About the armament, I think we will use a mixture of Heavy Laser Turrets for defence and AMGs again Capships.
Also some Captorps, its an  old but proven weapon. It think that would come closest to the game, even if Origin missed to config there ships right....What was that from Intel the Kilrathi Carrier has no AMGs? Who ever told such **** should be ......! Same goes for other differences between the book, the game and the Novels.

[IceFire]

True enough...you have to walk your own path.  WC3 was pretty good about the AMG's being assigned to the right turrets....WC4 pretty much did away with AMG's all together.

My fav missions were when Confed destroyers and cruisers engaged Kilrathi counterparts.  So many lasers shooting and blasting things apart.

[Nico]

Originally posted by gevatter Lars
[BWe will make every ship of the WC Series including the Behemoth. [/B]

so we'll have the Wasp? heh, heh?

[gevatter Lars]

Yes Venom we will also male the Wasp, but the booster is a problem...maybe with some coding work something could be done.
But at the moment we are concentrating on Wing Commander 2 and 3 ships, because they are needed for our Campain.

[Nico]

don't care, the wasp will be there so I'm happy, it's my all time favourite WC ship
You have WC2 shiops done already, btw? I mean 100% done, with maps and all.

[gevatter Lars]

If you have done any WC work I would like to see it. Send me the modelfiles, textures, tbls and so on via Email or ICQ.
You can find my Email in your ICQ list.

From what I have see from your work I am quite sure that the look good.
Have you maybe also a little bit time to work with us? Making other models or textures?

Have you also visit our page and forum?
In the Topic
Wing Commander: Battlegroup Serpent (here at HLP) you will find the link to our page.

[Nico]

nope, I've done nothing.
As for helping, i'd really like ( WC has a special meaning to my gamer's heart ) but really I don't think it's possible. Maybe a fighter or a bomber ( I always liked the crossbow ) but really, I'm too busy otherwise.

[IceFire]

The stats for the Vesuivus at WC:CIC is made up...or taken from some book (that made it up).

The actual game Vesuivus...the one you really shoot at...has a bunch o turrets (the number currently eludes me but I did count it out once) that are all the same type.  Just one weapon type....

Now thats pretty boring so I'm glad you guys are adding extra fun to it as well...but in terms of the straight in game stats...nope...just one laser turret type (heavier than the standard version tho).