[wEvil]

http://www.notinourname.net

[an0n]

Old news.

[Knight Templar]

wtf is this? another protest iraq war page?

[Redfang]

[wEvil]

unfortunately if you just pull your heads out of your own arses and take a look around you might realise things are going seriously off the rails in your society.

[Blue Lion]

My society is fine

[Stryke 9]

Oh, goody. More politicoes. Passive resistance and all that.


Damn it, when did people who know nothing about protest strategy gain the right to protest? It worked for MLK and Ghandi because everyone would see that the pigs were kicking the **** out of them for no reason. Nobody cares if a bunch of upper-middle-class whiteboys wanna sit around in a designated-out-of-the-way area and chant.

But what the hell. They're something, at least.

[wEvil]

then do you want to bomb something instead?

and your society is not fine.

[vyper]

Look what do these people expect? That Saddam will never use his little toys? If he gained target range to hit Britain d'you think he wouldn't do it? One day that regime will attempt to expand itself, and when it does there will be hell to pay. So we either sit back and get millions of our own people slaughtered in ten years time, or we stop him now. I am not prepared to pay the price for the former. We stop him now - we end this before Iraq becomes the birthplace of a new World War.

[CP5670]

Actually, the government has never really represented the opinions of the average man. A good thing too, as the nation would have fallen apart long ago otherwise.

Besides, the there is little to lose by going into Iraq at any rate, so what does the result matter?

It worked for MLK and Ghandi because everyone would see that the pigs were kicking the **** out of them for no reason.

uh...it did not really work for the latter man. (who by the way was possibly the biggest idiot who ever lived; I even have reasons to have a personal grudge on him )

[Stryke 9]

Vyper: Uh-huh. And we had to kill millions of unprepared civilians in Japan in order to save lives. And we had to invade Vietnam to keep the Communists from taking over the world. And the Israelis had more right to Palestine than the natives did. And people who are willing to die to strike a blow against what they see as the embodiment of evil are "cowardly". If someone says 'em enough times, you start to believe them.



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This has potential...

[Crazy_Ivan80]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Oh, goody. More politicoes. Passive resistance and all that.


Damn it, when did people who know nothing about protest strategy gain the right to protest?  

probably when democracy got imported.

[wEvil]

Originally posted by vyper
Look what do these people expect? That Saddam will never use his little toys? If he gained target range to hit Britain d'you think he wouldn't do it? One day that regime will attempt to expand itself, and when it does there will be hell to pay. So we either sit back and get millions of our own people slaughtered in ten years time, or we stop him now. I am not prepared to pay the price for the former. We stop him now - we end this before Iraq becomes the birthplace of a new World War.

he's more likely to hit britain than the US and no I dont care because this is a miserable little country and we need an apocalypse.

Oh...so YOU move in and slaughter millions of them under the false flag of altruism?  give me a break.  Im almost as disgusted with your nation as I am with religion - and thats' saying something.

[CP5670]

nah, just slaughter millions of them under the flag of despotism instead.

[wEvil]

Originally posted by CP5670
nah, just slaughter millions of them under the flag of despotism instead.

well, anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that this is what it comes down to, in the end.

[Stryke 9]

Who needs a flag? Let's kill everybody for the sheer, unadulterated hell of it!:D

[vyper]

Originally posted by wEvil


he's more likely to hit britain than the US and no I dont care because this is a miserable little country and we need an apocalypse.

Oh...so YOU move in and slaughter millions of them under the false flag of altruism?  give me a break.  Im almost as disgusted with your nation as I am with religion - and thats' saying something.

I'd choose to kill one hundred of Iraq's population rather than let one[/b[ British man, woman or child become a victim of any of Iraq's weapons.

As for being disgusted with my nation... your choice, but I like my country... a lot better than anywhere else. Where do you live?


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And we had to kill millions of unprepared civilians in Japan in order to save lives.

I'd have done the same thing if I were given the responsibility of making that choice.

And the Israelis had more right to Palestine than the natives did.

*goes to respond then stops* Why do I say nothing? 'Cos I feking sick of Palestine and Israel coming into a debate about Iraq. It happens all the time!

[Stryke 9]

Originally posted by vyper


I'd choose to kill one hundred of Iraq's population rather than let one[/b[ British man, woman or child become a victim of any of Iraq's weapons.

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What can I say? You're a psychotic. You're sick. You think this is something to be proud of? You're a bigoted (probably) racist git, as well as having the mentality of a murderer. Yay you.

I'd have done the same thing if I were given the responsibility of making that choice.

I think that goes without saying.

*goes to respond then stops* Why do I say nothing? 'Cos I feking sick of Palestine and Israel coming into a debate about Iraq. It happens all the time!

Well, that's too bad, because the whole Iraq situation has more to do with Israel than anything else, excepting possibly Bush I.

[CP5670]

well, anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that this is what it comes down to, in the end.

I guess many people don't have that then. Of course, there is nothing wrong with it though.

And the Israelis had more right to Palestine than the natives did.

well, anyone has the right to that land as long as they can defend it.

I'd choose to kill one hundred of Iraq's population rather than let one[/b[ British man, woman or child become a victim of any of Iraq's weapons.

From a government's point of view, given the government's objectives, it is far better to have all of the rest of the world's population completely eradicated than to have a scratch on one of its citizens. This is quite rational, given the goals.

[Stryke 9]

Well, in a purely Machiavellian sense, I suppose the "anyone has the right to that land as long as they can defend it" thing is true. And in a practical sense. But it reeks of Catch-22.


And yes, that's true for governments. It's a sickness for the PEOPLE to share that sentiment.