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Reply #20 on: September 28, 2002, 01:34:32 pm
You're right. we should ignore him. just like we ignored Hitler. All it took was half of Europe to be conqured, and the Japanese empire attacking us to get us in.


Yes, let's instead sit on our ass and wait for him to attack us. That's ****ing logical.
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Reply #21 on: September 28, 2002, 01:35:28 pm
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What can I say? You're a psychotic. You're sick. You think this is something to be proud of? You're a bigoted (probably) racist git, as well as having the mentality of a murderer. Yay you.
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The difference between you and me is, I'm willing to take the risk of being all those things to insure that you will still have the right to say these things. :blah:
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Reply #22 on: September 28, 2002, 01:35:41 pm
Yeah, 'cause, you know, there are ANY ****ING PARALLELS AT ALL.:rolleyes:

Yes, Saddam has both the power and the desire to take over the entire planet. :rolleyes:
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Reply #23 on: September 28, 2002, 01:36:42 pm
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I'd choose to kill one hundred of Iraq's population rather than let one[/b[ British man, woman or child become a victim of any of Iraq's weapons.

I'm glad that you think so highly of yourself as to be able to put a value on any human life.
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Reply #24 on: September 28, 2002, 01:37:40 pm
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The difference between you and me is, I'm willing to take the risk of being all those things to insure that you will still have the right to say these things. :blah:


Oh, goody. You don't give a **** if thousands of people die, but if they can't say "****"- ooh, better look out. That's inhuman, can't have that!

Personally, I'd rather be oppressed than dead. At least when you're oppressed you can fight back, and take a couple pigs with you.
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Reply #25 on: September 28, 2002, 01:40:11 pm
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Well, in a purely Machiavellian sense, I suppose the "anyone has the right to that land as long as they can defend it" thing is true. And in a practical sense. But it reeks of Catch-22.


Catch-22? :confused:

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And yes, that's true for governments. It's a sickness for the PEOPLE to share that sentiment.


Perhaps, but so is any other sentiment that people can have, so it does not really matter. :D
 

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Reply #26 on: September 28, 2002, 01:40:35 pm
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Oh, goody. You don't give a **** if thousands of people die, but if they can't say "****"- ooh, better look out. That's inhuman, can't have that!

Personally, I'd rather be oppressed than dead. At least when you're oppressed you can fight back, and take a couple pigs with you.


First paragraph I didn't follow.

And about being oppressed: Do it my way, and we're not oppressed or dead!
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Reply #27 on: September 28, 2002, 01:42:44 pm
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And about being oppressed: Do it my way, and we're not oppressed or dead!

:wtf: Eh?
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Reply #28 on: September 28, 2002, 01:43:15 pm
The thing is, like I said, we have little to lose by going in Iraq; it would be a very one-sided battle with a quick resolution. At the worst, we get some extra oil. :D
 

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Reply #29 on: September 28, 2002, 01:49:18 pm
I was referring to the most famous quote, not the common (sort of incorrect) sense: "Catch-22 means they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing".

Anyway, yes, I'm actually all for an Iraqui invasion- because it gives a pretext for overthrow of our own government, something the complacent can rally behind.
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Reply #30 on: September 28, 2002, 01:50:53 pm
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I was referring to the most famous quote, not the common (sort of incorrect) sense: "Catch-22 means they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing".


oh okay; well yes, that is exactly what I mean. Everyone has the right to do anything they want if they have the means. :D
 

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Reply #31 on: September 28, 2002, 01:53:28 pm
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Originally posted by Stryke 9
I was referring to the most famous quote, not the common (sort of incorrect) sense: "Catch-22 means they have a right to do anything we can't stop them from doing".

Anyway, yes, I'm actually all for an Iraqui invasion- because it gives a pretext for overthrow of our own government, something the complacent can rally behind.


Please tell me you mean by democratic means?
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Reply #32 on: September 28, 2002, 01:55:33 pm
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Please tell me you mean by democratic means?
Haha. You'll be lucky.
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Reply #33 on: September 28, 2002, 01:55:55 pm
Of course I don't. Democracy after we ESTABLISH the democracy.
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Reply #34 on: September 28, 2002, 01:57:15 pm
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Please tell me you mean by democratic means?


I guess there is little other way, since no domestic lobbyists can really take on the entire US army... :D

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Of course I don't. Democracy after we ESTABLISH the democracy.


Problem is, a true democracy (or even a republic) will last for maybe a few days before breaking up into tribe-like factions. :p
 

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Reply #35 on: September 28, 2002, 01:58:48 pm
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I guess there is little other way, since no domestic lobbyists can really take on the entire US army... :D



Problem is, a true democracy (or even a republic) will last for maybe a few days before breaking up into tribe-like factions. :p
*cough* Vietnam *cough*
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Reply #36 on: September 28, 2002, 02:00:07 pm
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Of course I don't. Democracy after we ESTABLISH the democracy.


The scary thing is, I can believe you mean that.
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Reply #37 on: September 28, 2002, 02:02:41 pm
I ain't got no problems with tribe-like factions. That's the eventual plan- you honestly thought I expected 50 million people across thousands of miles and hundreds of cultures to get along under one government? The government we have NOW does about as good a job of that as can be done, and we know how bad THAT is.

And it's true. Military honestly has nothing on large groups of the populace (particularly its own populace) who know the terrain, are armed and prepped fairly well, and have nothing to lose. Army boys are afraid to lose their jobs- revolutionaries aren't afraid to die. Which is gonna fight better?
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Reply #38 on: September 28, 2002, 02:03:14 pm
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The scary thing is, I can believe you mean that.


This from the guy who'd sooner kill hundreds of people than let one die.:rolleyes:
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Reply #39 on: September 28, 2002, 02:04:44 pm
"Army boys," because they have the technology. :p That is the key difference in any conflict.

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I ain't got no problems with tribe-like factions. That's the eventual plan- you honestly thought I expected 50 million people across thousands of miles and hundreds of cultures to get along under one government? The government we have NOW does about as good a job of that as can be done, and we know how bad THAT is.


I see, and what will you do with the tribe-like factions, then? :D
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