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Offline Top Gun

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From a Scientific/logical point of view the Bible is a foul concoction of contradictory crap. From a sociological/anthropological point of view it's a valuable resource. Logically speaking the only path is agnosticism as there is niether any reliable evidence for a creator, neither can it ever be disproved, it's ignorant and arrogant to assume either way.

 

Offline Carl

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really? cause i've read the entire bible and nothing i saw contradicted anything.
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Offline Kamikaze

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The definition of god itself is contradicting...
God is omnipotent
God can create (anything)

correct?

Well then "can god create a rock it can't lift?" - it can create anything.. however it won't be omnipotent if it can't lift it

 also why would a god need morality (as it seems it does) when there is no higher being to compare to? (or even equal beings..)
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Offline Carl

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answer to your first question: you're thinking in the box. remember, God isn't confined to the laws of physics.

and the second question doesn't even make sense.
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Offline Stryke 9

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*sigh* This tired, sad old argument again...

Honestly, I think the whole omnipotent-God thing is a cop-out. If you believe in an all-powerful god, you essentially never have to think, because everything happens because he says so, anything CAN happen, there need not be any underlying cause and effect, people are too stupid to understand the universe, go watch TV- there's nothing you can possibly do for God that he can't already do himself with no effort at all. It's an irrefutable claim, but then again so is the theory that Hitler was an artificial cyborg built by aliens from the planet Zontar in order to take over the Earth and soften up humanity for the invasion.

Also, it takes a hell of a lot of the fun out of life. It's something fantastic, to go out in the world, see all the infinitely complex structures around you, working together perfectly with their world, and to realize that this all came about on its own. The idea that the world is the sandbox of a celestial toddler is a depressing concept indeed. There's no "miracle" to a universe with a God who can do anything, whenever he likes, however he likes. Things just happen, under such a theory, and it's just as concievable that people could lift off the ground and fly about as that they'll continue walking down the street, strictly terrestrial, if you believe in an almighty God. I find it MUCH more interesting to rule a Lord out of the picture, and see the way things work without some big man in the sky calling the shots- and they do, they absolutely do.


'Course, if there was any concrete evidence OF a Supreme Being, I don't think I'd worship him anyway. What kind of sadistic, vile being could be infinitely powerful, create an entire universe, and fill it with such a high degree of misery? If the Bible's to be believed, in fact, at times he personally intervenes to create more of it. And He wants to be PRAISED??? The sick bastard, I'd sooner go to hell than toady up to THAT.

 

Offline diamondgeezer

Question for the Christians out there: How come worshiping the Great Beardy One is the only true religion, but worshiping the lil' grey dudes is a cult?

 

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Offline Stryke 9

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Because it's hard to have a decent respect for any myth commonly featured in bad computer games and paranoiac TV shows.





Wait a minute, forget I said that...:D

 

Offline Levyathan

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The whole universe is made up for various parts that all reproduce over time. (even something like a rock breaking into pieces is reproduction)


:lol: :lol:

Nice one!

 

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lil grey dudes?


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