[Stealth]

Lets keep it on the topic, ok? And this one is specific. You want to talk about big and little eyes? Do it in your own damn thread!

No offense Thunder, i'm not doing this to spite you or anything, but i think it'd be a good discussion.

So everyone... anyone like anime?  if so, what kind?  i've never been into Dragonball Z or anything, but if there's a good anime program or two out there i'll be thefirst to watch it.

Discuss!

[silverwolf]

i like outlaw star

[Galemp]

Actually, once you watch some of the real anime in the original Japanese (with subtitles,) it's not that bad. Compared to Digimon and Dragonball Z, anyway.

[Knight Templar]

POKEMON!!!

Ever see Brock's eyes! Now there's a true anime character. Horny and small eyes. :thepimp:

[mikhael]

I loved anime when I was younger--then I got stationed in Japan. Every geeks dream, right?

Yeah, until you realize that the tiny amount we get over here is actually the cream of the crop. Most of it is crap, just like american animation. For every Pokemon, there's about twenty knockoffs. Even the incomprehensible, really poorly done stuff, like Evangelion got a near verbatim ripoff.

Gimme Canadian CG animation any day.

[Liberator]

The best anime show I've ever seen, in terms of art and sound(voice acting and music), is without a doubt Cowboy Bebop.

[Turnsky]

good anime is hard to find, as for the eyes, as long as it's not disproportionate.. it's fine by me.

[Sesquipedalian]

How could a cartoon not be disproportionate?

And if Dragonball Z is the cream of the crop, then I have lost what little respect I ever might have considering thinking about maybe having for the Japanese animation industry.

[Fineus]

Originally posted by Stealth
No offense Thunder, i'm not doing this to spite you or anything, but i think it'd be a good discussion.

Not at all, I'm glad you did - it's a good topic of discussion, just not in my thread

Personally I like the whole design of anime faces, large eyes etc... contrary to what people say it isn't all big breasts girls etc. For a showcase example check out Skuld and Belldandy - perhaps even Urd and Mara. Sure they have breasts but they're proportional, certainly not over the top and definitely smaller than some of todays real life photoshoot stars.

The other point I'd like to address is that "they look nothing like real people". Of course they don't! They don't attempt to be, it's a certain style - a way of representing charachters, but they never ever set out to represent a real human charachter or to be accurate in that manor. Hence big eyes, the ability to fly and so on are all perfectly acceptable.

As for good anime? mikhael is right, for everyone hall-of-fame movie or series there is, there'll be at least one near-copycat of the same thing. If you want to check out some decent anime try:

Akira (Famous, Brilliant)
Princess Mononoke (Also Brilliant, Inspiring)
Neon Genesis Evangelion (Haven't seen all of it, but big bio-mechs rock)
Oh My Goddess (I prefer the comics to the OVAs but it's a matter of taste - it's still light hearted, funny and yet something pure as well)
Spirited Away (I've not seen it but a friend who shares similar tastes says it's great)

There are more, but those are the ones that really spring to mind. Look around, there's lots of review sites.

[Nico]

considering there's about a thousand anime series out per year, there is obviously a lot of trash.
As for good series, well, depends what you like:

-fantasy

• slayers ( comical )
• The Chronicles of the Lodoss War ( serious, originally based on AD&D, if you wonder )
• Berserk ( realistic in the treatment of battles etc, but a few mythological element too, and the hero has a huge sword, which may repel some people )
• Those who hunt elves ( Weird, ever wondered how a russian tank was doing in a fantasy universe? :D )

-science fiction

• Cowboy Bebop ( story of a bounty hunter, awesome )
• trigun ( hilarious on the first part, quite depressing on the second. an excellent postapocalyptic story )
• gundam ( mechas -personnally I hate the Gundam designs, but the series themselves are quite nice, with tortuous plots that keep twisting )
• Macross ( you've seen robotech? well, it's the first macross series translated by the US, I simplify but that's it. If you say it's old and look uggly, it's true for the first series, but try macross plus some day for exmple )
• Vandread ( excellent series, funny as hell, and with a damn lot of very impressive CGI space dogfights )
• Gunbuster ( mecha, but the first part will please all the scientist geeks around )

-comical

• Love Hina ( you don't know love hina? your loss )
• Chobits ( hard to explain, but quite nice, tho I'm not that fond of it )
• Golden Boy ( damn hilarious, but to please all the anime detractors, it's clearly for mature audience )
• FLCL ( what yopu get when an anime team works under LSD -there's even a parody of southpark in it at some point -yes, the characters look/talk exactly the same then )

-romance
there's too many of them, in fact ( I guess Ah! My Goddess  can be put there for exemple )

-cult ( will, for me, you have to see these ones )

• City Hunter ( the series can't compare to the manga, but it's still very good )
• Cobra ( you don't know cobra? your loss )
• Nadia, the secret of blue water ( Disney completly ripped the plot and many scenes of that series to make Atlantis, and it won't stand to the original )
• Blue Seed ( won't write any more descruiptions, too tired, but this one is among my favourites )
• Evangelion ( controversial, but very popular none the less )
• escaflowne ( even me ticked to the chara design on thi one, but the fact is, just like anime in general, when you try, you get used to it very fast. it's fantasy with fantasy-style mechas, sounds odd, but works great )

I'm waiting eagerly for Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, the series based on the manga ( there's also a pretty famous movie ), I've seen the first episode, it rocks
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and many others, but this post is long enough already.

[Star Dragon]

The first anime series I ever saw were simultaneous, and thus became my favorites:

   Star Blazers (move over ENTERPRISE!) the original starship crew saving the Earth from the bad guys... BIG GUN! (Yes I want that Yamato...)

   And four of the Five Go Nagai series bundled together and horribly dubbed by Jim Terry Productions (same people did the voices for each series):

    Star Vengers (Getter Robo G: Star Dragon, Star Arrow, Star Posiden) THE ORGINAL robot transforming show. Before voltron, before transformers, before all that crap (go bots and such) GO Nagai invented that concept (HE THE MAN). And although I didn't like the new robot I whole heartedly reccomend you all seeing GETTER ROBO ARMAGEDDON 12 part DVD series released last year. A reinterpritation of the original and a conclusion that makes robot fans say  

Oh hot dam reminds me... Do any of you remember that messed up 80's cartoon Tranzor Z???

Guess what... It was actually Mazinger Z! The first robot cartoon made by Go Nagai that broke ground in the industry. Horrible dubbing (no swears - darnit!) and script changes hosed it but there for history. I denied it was mazinger till I did research a few years ago... I had all the 24" tall robots as a kis and the Mazinger I had was actually the next version Great Mazinger but the translation was horrible so I never knew one had come before. Great Mazinger was cool as hell. and last year 2001, Mazin Kaiser came out. See this video! Kicking mech moster A$$ all over the place.

back to yesteryear, don't forget to look up Grendizer, Danguard Ace, Gaiking, and Brave Raideen. The rest of the REAL Super Robots.

   More recently I like:
 
 Gasaraki (wierd mystical exo/mech combat a few years from now) cool made up historical secrets...

Super Atragon (the secret from the end of WWII that never was revealed must save the Earth)

Macross the Movie (dubbed by austrailians) yes in 1984 robotech debuted on American TV and this movie cam out in Japan. This movie have 3 times better graphics. I saw this movie in 94 or 95 and Said WOW! When did this come out! The Animation no one wants you to see! All the Macross stuff ENHANCED.

Martian Successor Nadesico ( didn't like it at first but by the 3rd episode I loved it) Plus the Gekiganger parodies of the 70's robots!!! Go Gekiganer III !!!Gekigan Flare! We must have a Gekifest soon...

Vampire Hunted D (and the sequel: Bloodlust) Classic , er futuristic vampire sh*T!

The Slayers / Record of Lodoss War/ The Sorcerer Hunters / Orphen / I forget many more fantasy, oh yeah BASTARD!!! (He rocks!)

Tekkeman Blade II (never saw I)

Detenator ORGUN ( awesome robot/invasion take)

AKIRA (Psychic Armageddon is cool and bio degradable)

Warriors of the wind (hey I was like 8)

Gundam /Gundam Wing/Gundam X (Gundam V looks silly and I didn't like Gundam Z)

The New Gundam (oops came out in 96 but release on American TV this fall) Gundam Fighter G is so/so... Not really thrilled except for the nueral control suits...

[If this post is too long stop reading....]

Macross Plus (cause of superior graphics and interesting take on test pilots verses regular military stories)

Macross 7 (took some getting used to, especially caus I only have subtitle, now I look for every FIRE BOMBER song I can get. They are the fiction band name for a REAL BAND that rocks!!! The hero uses song to stop fighting and promote peace, but the military wants to use him as a weapon. Prepare for a sing along Alpha1 the mod elements is being developed!!! "POWER TO THE DREAM! POWER TO THE MUSIC!"

Bubblegum Crisis (the original)
Bubblegum Crisis 2040 (the TC remake)
(Both have AWESOME rock music)

Project Ako (the original, the rest are too silly) there's something about a super powered 15-16 year old high school girl who kicks A$$ and no one makes a fuss over it...

Battle Anglel (nuff said to good to ruin, see it)

Captain Harlock (all shows) the original space pirate! (Yeah I want the Arcadia too)

[End of part I]

[Star Dragon]

A continuation of my FAVORITE animes:


Ninja Team Gatchaman (Battle of the planets/ G Force/ Eagle Riders) - the five bird costumed heroes flying in the firey Phoenix, saving the Earth from the evil forces of a he/she...

Princess Mononoke (see it)

Ninja Scroll (SEE IT if you are a ninja fan!!!!!) Jubei Yagyu ROCKS!

Gal Force (all female crew kicks ass , made befoe SOL BIANCA and New Universe (both similar)

M.D. Giest (If you like no nonesence killing he's your man. The Most Dangerous soldier ever!)

Fist of the North Star (A kung FU bloodfest of exploding organs and amputated limbs! Ken needs to be in a ninja scroll movie!)
ya ya ya ya ya ya ya (you're dead... I'm what ARGH!) Delayed body implosion  YUK!

Evangelion was okay for teh first 8 episodes but then they get wierd on the audience and the story drags with religion ,: blah: : blah:) BUt teh mechs are cool and the ideas are original.

That's all for now
I'm sure there are 50 or 60 more but I just got outta work and can't think... L8tr!!!

[Nico]

I tried to avoid the oldies, otherwise you have saint seiya, harlock ( of course ), etc etc.
hehehe, fist of the north star ( Hokuto no Ken ), now that is really about fights
whototototototototototototo!
The series is better tho.

[Levyathan]

Originally posted by mikhael
Even the incomprehensible, really poorly done stuff, like Evangelion

I hope you're being sarcastic.

[Nico]

no he's not

[Carl]

i hate anime. it makes me feel like puking. just the way it looks is just, eich, it's wrong. all the people look like they're retarded. in my college, they have a bunch of banners all over the building advertsing an anime convention. i tore them all down. i hope the entire art form is wiped off the face of the earth.

[CP5670]

I must agree with Carl there on the artistic style; as for these shows themselves, I have never seen them, but some of the names in those lists sound pretty ridiculous...

[Stealth]

and i agree with Carl too.  they don't look human.  little punks with perfect bodies, big breasts, massive eyes, small lines of mouths, etc.

non-realistic

maybe it's just me

[Fineus]

Did you read anything I said? If it was supposed to reflect how a human really looks then it'd be different. I hope you don't treat people with facial disfigurations with the same attitude you hold for this form of art! Oh, they don't look human... ban them!

Sheesh... have an open mind!

[Carl]

i don't really care if they look human or not, after all, most cartoons don't. but anime is just sickening to me.