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Offline Knight Templar

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My only question is if this is for real?
damn...

too bad he's 3 years too late.

damn..
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My only question is if this is for real?
Good Lord. :eek2: Is... How... Can it... Why?
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My only question is if this is for real?
I'm perplexed as well... I really don't know what to make of that.  But with the source running around and the fact that half of the mods being developed require some form of source change (even if it's DTP's just for more ships.tbl entries) the legal complications could be horrendous.
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Offline Goober5000

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My only question is if this is for real?
This deserves a combination of
:confused: :eek2: :(

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Well, they should forward this to THQ and see if it'll provide any incentive to purchase the FS rights.  Give special emphasis to the fact that Interplay is going down the toilet.

 

Offline HeX

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My only question is if this is for real?
Read it again. He already tried THQ and they had no idea what FS even was.

Quote:

"They pointed me to THQ who were equally confused about the product as well. The person I spoke to was part of the executive staff and said they had never even heard of FS2."
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Offline Knight Templar

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"They pointed me to THQ who were equally confused about the product as well. The person I spoke to was part of the executive staff and said they had never even heard of FS2."


:wtf:

idiots..

well what are we going to do for this guy? this could be our chance.

For the record, i don't know if i agree with selling the campaigns.. i'd love the money, but i would sure be pissed if i heard that one day say inferno, a campaign i am looking forward to so much, i now have to pay 15 - 20 bucks to play it after being a member of the community and whatching it grow for so long.

The publicity and ability to show off your work would be great though, maybe just marketing it for free or something.. i dunno, this isn't exactly my expertise ...
« Last Edit: October 29, 2002, 11:52:36 pm by 675 »
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Offline Galemp

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My only question is if this is for real?
What about the folks who submitted missions for Silent Threat? Were they compensated in any way? Were the missions avaliable for free elsewhere? These are similar circumstances; except it's not Volition doing it. :nervous:
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Offline Sesquipedalian

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My only question is if this is for real?
Well, the guy could possibly take over selling the original retail version, but our modifications to the source code cannot be sold in anyway, of course.  

For non-SCP-dependent mods, campaigns, etc., the possibility exists for them to be included on such a CD while still being available for free download.  In would simply have to be part of the legal stipulations.  Then, those whose mods found their way onto the CD could receive remuneration for any versions sold as CDs, while still continuing to function as we are now.  It'd just be a nice bonus for us (and a way to milk all the newbies!)

Still, I'm not going to hold my breath on this one.  Someone at VW directed him to Interplay, so there is no further need for our involvment unless he comes back.
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Offline Stunaep

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My only question is if this is for real?
if he plans to go through with this, then there will be cartloads of legal issues, especially considering that the FS2 rights are owned by Intercrap, who cannot even deal with a freeware MVE encoder.

And yes, I'd hate to buy OTT for money (though I'd do it).
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Offline vyper

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My only question is if this is for real?
I'm sorry but this is just silly. Its not practical. Nice idea from the guy but totally unworkable.
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Offline Solatar

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My only question is if this is for real?
Inter**** is too dang stupid. If they actually advertised fs2, or even let :v: make fs3, they might get their head out of the toilet.

 

Offline HotSnoJ

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My only question is if this is for real?
IMO about selling campaigns. I think it'd a cool idea. But about the legal stuff. I could just say that I'm charging you for the CD, s + h, and any documantion that goes with it. While not charging you for the campaign. Simple. This is what the Linux people did/still do with thier software when selling it at Wal-Mart or some other retail store.

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I haven't read this whole thread but the pay to all the people involved with the mod is simple. Give each person a copy and then they can sell it where they live. This gives each person a share of the profits (provided they want to sell it and do) and you don't have to work with other nasty stuff if one person was in charge of the money.
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Offline RandomTiger

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My only question is if this is for real?
Hmmm...  all sounds very dubious to me.

Cetainly I doupt theres any money to be made unless you are a the top of this scheme where persumably drmedia wants to be.

It would be a shame if you had to buy FS2 MOD's, a counterstrike system would be nice. Where you can pay for a hardcopy or download it for free.

If the SCP could get MOD's working off the demo data then that could really help the legal situation. Although the SCP exe cant be sold of course.

Do we have enough finished material to sell?

If succesful this could a way to boost our community, however I suspect this might be some kind of scam.
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My only question is if this is for real?
:shaking: For some reason that guy sickens me. I don't know what it is though. Would be a good advisation to keep an eye on him. If some of the previous assumptions made were true then I do not like this idea at all.

 

Offline CP5670

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My only question is if this is for real?
Who is this guy? Do we know anything else about him?

 

Offline Goober5000

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Read it again. He already tried THQ and they had no idea what FS even was.

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"They pointed me to THQ who were equally confused about the product as well. The person I spoke to was part of the executive staff and said they had never even heard of FS2."
I meant that Volition should go to THQ.  Does anyone from :v: read these forums?  They ought to bring this to THQ's attention and say, this is our project, it has a huge potential market, we're really excited to do FS3 but we have the small problem of Interplay owning the rights; could you purchase them for us.

 

Offline Stryke 9

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My only question is if this is for real?
'E's a suit- a low-level one at that. Volition wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole, and neither would any other sensible group of people looking for a marketer. Don't lay credence on him just 'cos someone got him the link to FSW.

 

Offline Hudzy

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My only question is if this is for real?
It all looks a bit off to me. It does seem a good idea in theory, but when you take a closer look at it, well I'm not so sure. I don't know much about that kind of stuff, but as Knight Templar said, it would suck to have to pay for the campaigns. Something's just not right with the whole idea.

 
Many people have contributed by working on the SCP or individual missions/campaigns/models/voices/music/weaps, ect... SO the legal issues and payment distribution is unimaginable, FORGET it!

   However by taking these and using them AS a marketing tool instead of the project itself it may be possible to raise capital for FS3...

   Buying the rights for FS2 is step one. then completing the SCP and cutscene additions all the models-weapons developments and background changes (possible interface stuff) can all be directed for FS3 (one main storyline would have to be voted and agreed upon to continue the legacy)...

 I hope this could come to pass but, probably not :(
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