[Razor]

Some scientists say that we, humans use only 10% of our brain power. Then, what is the other 90% of unused powers we keep? Do we have to be gifted, or do we all allready have it? Any thoughts? Opinions?

[YodaSean]

Originally posted by Razor
. Then, what is the other 90% of unused powers we keep?  

I'm pretty sure its all penguins  

[Fineus]

I've never been entirely clear on how they prooved only 10% of the brain was used... did they study neural firing or something?

I of course think that the mind can be used to influence the "outside world" as well as travel to other levels of conciousness.

[Razor]

Possibly. It may be possible. No forget that force thing it's not real. What about telepathy? Is that possible?

[Galemp]

The other 90% is, I believe, devoted to unconsious things like breathing and digesting, memory storage, sensory input and the like. It's all being used, just not all for active thinking.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Razor
Some scientists say that we, humans use only 10% of our brain power. Then, what is the other 90% of unused powers we keep? Do we have to be gifted, or do we all allready have it? Any thoughts? Opinions?

The 10% thing is a bowdlerisation of a misquotation of a misinterpretation. Humans use 100% of their brain. The misinterpretation is based on a study of the brain that showed that approximately 10% of the brain showed high levels of activity, centered on the frontal lobes, with a secondary focus on the visual and olfactory centers. Some people have taken this to mean that we only use 10% of our brain, whereas the real meaning is that our brain operates at many different speeds/loads.

Think of it like PC hardware. The CPU runs, usually, 6 to 10 times faster than the front-side-bus on most motherboards, and anywhere from 3 to 5 times as fast as most RAM. Your brain is like that too.

[Razor]

Quite possibly. You know, the human mind really has a lot of space in it. Possibly far more than 10 big size hard discs combined, but it is just that we loose some of our memories, we can't keep them there forever.

EDIT: I was adressing GE

[Bobboau]

well it would be hard to equate the human mind to computer hardware becase our brains are analog, and computers are binary digital, also the structure is almost opposite with a computer there is a single central powerful procesor, in the mind there are trillions of small weak procesors wich work together.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Razor
Quite possibly. You know, the human mind really has a lot of space in it. Possibly far more than 10 big size hard discs combined, but it is just that we loose some of our memories, we can't keep them there forever.

Taking glial cells as bits, the brain has more than 12 terabytes of space. When you consider that glial cells are wired with a much greater amount of interconnectedness, rather than the two-way connections of transistors, you end up with a number that is several times that. That assumes, of course, that information in your brain is stored as "bits".

Part of the reason that you lose memories, though, is not about storage space, but about the way memories are stored and constructed. There's this idea that memories have some link to the real world, which is utterly false. Memories are like photographs seen through a fish-eye lens. The parts our internal systems consider important are at the center of the lens and are very clear (which is not to say accurate) while things toward the periphary become distorted and unrecognizable. Add in the positive feedback loop of human conciousness (wherein things we consider important become clearer, and because they're clearer, they become more important) and detail just falls away. The important thing to remember, though, is that "important"  is not meant in a concious sense (elsewise, we would never forget the things we wanted to remember!), but in an unconcious, nondeterministic sense. The memory apparatus is what determines "importance", completely seperate from concious determination.

 Also consider the concept of confabulation, wherein the mind builds "memories" piecemeal by combining disconnected memory fragments. It is not uncommon for adults to remember childhood events that NEVER HAPPENED. These events are a sort of photo-mosaic, a collage of memory fragments that have been knit together into a wholly realistic "memory".

[Bobboau]

are minds use some rather interesting compression softwar to stor things

[Stealth]

Originally posted by mikhael

Think of it like PC hardware. The CPU runs, usually, 6 to 10 times faster than the front-side-bus on most motherboards, and anywhere from 3 to 5 times as fast as most RAM. Your brain is like that too.

no, don't think of it as PC hardware... the brain is faaarrr more advanced, and can't be compared to anything mechanical.


i personally think that since we're not perfect we don't use all our brain... and if we WERE perfect, then we would use more of it.

Originally posted by: GalacticEmperor
The other 90% is, I believe, devoted to unconsious things like breathing and digesting, memory storage, sensory input and the like. It's all being used, just not all for active thinking.

no, that's a totally different part of the body, it's not even part of the brain... it's connected it, but it controls unconscious things, like breathing, heartbeat, and even digesting.  it's like at the back of your neck, a little up... that's why a strike in the right place stops your heart and breathing.

[Razor]

Ok! Who's the wise guy who voted for doughnuts?

[Redfang]

Originally posted by Razor
Ok! Who's the wise guy who voted for doughnuts?

 
Me + 2 other people.

[Knight Templar]

meh.. as much as I love facts, it seems a little drab to think that people will forever be this advanced/smart/all that good stuff


mmmmm doughnuts...


wee! stealth has a new avatar!

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Razor
Ok! Who's the wise guy who voted for doughnuts?

-hell no man, it wasn't me
-i haven't even voted yet
-i swear i didn't, don't you believe!?

Originally posted by: Knight_Templar

wee! stealth has a new avatar!

-now my friend Knight_Templar, what are you on?
-i don't know about you, but as for me:  your mom!
-see this isn't my first, and it won't be my last
-i've got a mission to accomplish, so chill out, enjoy, laugh!
-i'm here to be helpful, work, and have fun
-if you got a bad attitude, you'll see the barrel of gun
-so stop the words coming out of your mouth
-in fact, i'm still waiting on one from the GTD Wolf.

heh, couldn't resist, sorry
i know you ain't hatin

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Stealth

no, don't think of it as PC hardware... the brain is faaarrr more advanced, and can't be compared to anything mechanical.

I'm using a PC as an analogy, NOT as a direct comparison. When one considers the massively parallel nature and network-of-localised networks structure, NO you cannot compare them. Lets not confuse analogy for correlation.

i personally think that since we're not perfect we don't use all our brain... and if we WERE perfect, then we would use more of it.

Perfection is subjective. What does a subjective state have to do with the factual functionings of a human organ?

no, that's a totally different part of the body, it's not even part of the brain... it's connected it, but it controls unconscious things, like breathing, heartbeat, and even digesting.  it's like at the back of your neck, a little up... that's why a strike in the right place stops your heart and breathing.

The medula, or brain stem, coordinates most autonomic process, delegating tasking through the spinal cord and various centralised ganglia. Considering this "seperate" from the brain is specious. It is, in fact, fair to consider the spinal cord itself (and as a result the major ganglia) as extensions of the brain stem, and thus, the brain. Biology and anatomy are, as they say, A1-SUPAR.

Razor, I voted for donuts, since you didn't have any sensible options.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by mikhael

A I'm using a PC as an analogy, NOT as a direct comparison. When one considers the massively parallel nature and network-of-localised networks structure, NO you cannot compare them. Lets not confuse analogy for correlation.


B Perfection is subjective. What does a subjective state have to do with the factual functionings of a human organ?


C The medula, or brain stem, coordinates most autonomic process, delegating tasking through the spinal cord and various centralised ganglia. Considering this "seperate" from the brain is specious. It is, in fact, fair to consider the spinal cord itself (and as a result the major ganglia) as extensions of the brain stem, and thus, the brain. Biology and anatomy are, as they say, A1-SUPAR.

A.  just checking

B.  By "perfect" i mean we have a perfect immune system, etc... that we can't get sick, when we cut ourselves open we don't die of infections, etc.

C.  So you think that a small part of the brain (because the area of the brain that controls breathing, etc. is VERY small in comparison to the rest of the brain... probably about 10% of it, if that) is 90% of our brain, and the other parts of the brain (which is by far the majority) is using its full capacity (100%)?  it doesn't make sense... if a little part of the brain is using 90% of the brain, then whats the brain itself doing?

also... i'd disagree that the spinal chord is an extension, or part of the brain... sure it carries nerves and stuff, but it can't process any information, so therefore it's not part of the brain... the nerves to TO the brain the processes the information

[Knight Templar]

Originally Slurred by Stealth

 -now my friend Knight_Templar, what are you on?
-i don't know about you, but as for me: your mom!
-see this isn't my first, and it won't be my last
-i've got a mission to accomplish, so chill out, enjoy, laugh!
-i'm here to be helpful, work, and have fun
-if you got a bad attitude, you'll see the barrel of gun
-so stop the words coming out of your mouth
-in fact, i'm still waiting on one from the GTD Wolf.

- Wow Mr. Stealth man, that was really Gay.
- You see I'm waiting for a few of mine any day.
- So while you sit here and play with your dick,
- I'll be in your moms bed havin' a good lick.
- Don't **** with me man,
- You'll begin to see what you have been avoiding so long
- The one you evade, it's called Harsh reality.
- You be sittin' posin' and rapp'n like you NaS or Jay-Z
- But in fact you're as old as Vannila ice, you're over, don't you see?


don't h8, I sk8. :wink:    

[Razor]

I think Stealth has way too many avatars. He should be adminized me thinks before GameSpy chargs him for using too much status space.
*Runs not*

[Razor]

Originally posted by Knight Templar


mmmmm doughnuts...
 

Bah that choice is for people who don't have a clue what I am talking about. First I started with peanuts, then Thunder used bacon now doughnuts. Whee!! Admit it, I am the poll master! Admit it! Admit it!