[Stealth]

In the future, what programs/languages do you see as being 'supreme'...as in most used, and most efficient. (note this is not now... this is what you think will be in the future of the web)

Also post a reason why/why not you think a certain language/program gets your vote.

EDIT:

My vote went to Flash, PHP, and HTML.  Why?  
Because HTML is the basis of every webpage
PHP is awesome and easy for big sites to display pages, etc.
Flash is many languages in one, you can do pretty much anything with Flash (yeah, go on... try me!)

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Stealth

Flash is many languages in one, you can do pretty much anything with Flash (yeah, go on... try me!)

Make a fully functional Freespace Desktop.

[diamondgeezer]

Java is teH cool (on the basis that all my friends taking CS degrees hate it and struggle with it )

[aldo_14]

Originally posted by diamondgeezer
Java is teH cool (on the basis that all my friends taking CS degrees hate it and struggle with it )

eh?  Java is a piss-easy language....

I'd say Java - platform independent (hence why it is one of the main languages for mobile phone comms, once you can otpimise it sufficeintly), XML (as it's more versatile than HTML and adds meaning to data), and finally SQL for remote database access (which is going to be a major thing...).

Tho SQL isn't really a web language as such, as it's just a date retrieval / manipulation language, and it can be embedded in CGI, ASP, Java etc.

[Ulundel]

voted flash...because it's hell of a job to find an official non-flash website these days.

[Stunaep]

Originally posted by Ten of Twelve
voted flash...because it's hell of a job to find an official non-flash website these days.

which is not always a good thing. Flash tends to take up a lot of RAM, loads slowly on a 56k modem, which makes me usually switch to html versions if one is  available.

now, php, that is the way to go.

[Black Wolf]

English - far enough into the future you'll just say "Make me a cool webpage...With blue bits on it".

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Stunaep

which is not always a good thing. Flash tends to take up a lot of RAM, loads slowly on a 56k modem, which makes me usually switch to html versions if one is  available.

now, php, that is the way to go.

Flash does take up a lot of RAM, but the compression is probably the best in the world... the filesizes are incredibly small.

Also, did I mention that 56K aren't the way of the future either

[Stealth]

Originally posted by mikhael


Make a fully functional Freespace Desktop.

easy

it's the browser that's standing in the way, not the Flash bit

[an0n]

PHP+MySQL = Teh shiznit
HTML+DHTML+Perl = Teh ****

*is going for the PHP+MySQL option for fattonys.com once he's got the time to finish making the damn thing*

[Ulundel]

Originally posted by Stealth
Also, did I mention that 56K aren't the way of the future either

it's a miracle that people are still using 56K

[an0n]

*remembers when 33.6's were teh *****

Dial-up sukkas.

[Zeronet]

XP doesnt even support Java as default.

[an0n]

Originally posted by Zeronet
XP doesnt even support Java as default.

Haha. Yeah, Microsoft tried to make Windows incompatible with Sun Java (and exclusively run it's own Java variant) so Sun took offence and sued them, so now Microsoft don't like Java.

[vadar_1]

cgi and perl are becomming obsolete, php and asp have taken over. Html duh, dhtml was just a fad that didn't last long... at all. Flash is pointless because you have to wait for the page to load, and usually you get the same information while having to screw around with an annoying interface. Java**** is the root of all evil, it causes hundreds of page errors, thousands of popups, rarely do you ever see useful content with java****. And Java is kinda borderline, id rather use something like DarkBasic.

[an0n]

Javascript is probably the second most evil thing on the Earth.

And as for DHTML, yes, it's mostly dead and non-used, but it's still got some nifty features in the CSS thingies and the filter. Like Glow and Shadow and such.

[ZylonBane]

Whoever made this poll is a bit... ummm... clueless.

DHTML does not exist except in the mind of marketers. All it is is HTML + DOM + JavaScript.

XML is an interoperable database standard. Nothing to do with web pages. XHTML, which is a reformulation of HTML to XML syntax (and wasn't included in the poll), has already been declared by the W3C as the future preferred web markup language.

Flash is not "many languages in one". It is, at best, two-- a timeline-based animation tool, and ECMAScript (aka ActionScript, aka JavaScript).

CGI is not a language. It is, as its acronym specifies, a common interface between web pages and server-side executables. This is often Perl, but it can literally be any program on the server.

If ASP is in there, where's JSP?

The scope of this poll is too scattershot to derive any meaningful results. We've got server-side and client-side technologies mixed together... user interaction vs content generation technologies... ack!

[Top Gun]

Yes, all what he said goes.


I wonder if anyone has seriously considered using gopher as a protocol instead of http, it has many, many virtues.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by vadar_1
cgi and perl are becomming obsolete, php and asp have taken over. Html duh, dhtml was just a fad that didn't last long... at all. Flash is pointless because you have to wait for the page to load, and usually you get the same information while having to screw around with an annoying interface. Java**** is the root of all evil, it causes hundreds of page errors, thousands of popups, rarely do you ever see useful content with java****. And Java is kinda borderline, id rather use something like DarkBasic.

the only reason you don't like Flash is because i use it.

PHP has its uses, as does Flash

EDIT:

What happened to your avatar and forum?  

[an0n]

He doesn't like Flash because it's turd.

Internet = Text
Internet != Crappy sequenced scripting and vectored graphics