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Offline Stealth

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i won't push my luck... (explain what you meant by pushing my luck :D )

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Offline Fineus

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Offline Stealth

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i know you... you're just looking for a way to ban me, arne' tyou :(

 

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Lol, even I am not sad/cruel/pathetic/evil (pick one+) enough to do that. Besides you've helped me with this motherboard thing - which was nice.

 

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yeah... i guess you're not that cruel... you know HLP is my life :p :cool:

and you also know i help everyone, regardless if i like them or not (not that i don't like you, but i'm just letting you know)

i'm just a helpful person :D

unfortunately it's not always GOOD help :D lol

 

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I think Vadar might agree with that ;)

But yeah.. thanks for the help with the mobo. Now all I need is money...

 

Offline Stealth

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buy it cheap in america... i can ship it to you

and you're wrong... i always helped vadar in a good way.  check the 'rating systems' thread in the FC forum

 

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i'm off to dinner... talk to you later :cool:

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Cheers, I'll keep that in mind - but I'm off to sleep. It's late here ;)

 

Offline diamondgeezer

Tsk. You'll never make a convincing student with that attitude Thunder.

I have an uber heat sink - looks basically like a cock's comb of about fifty or sixty copper vanes, each about sixty mm squared. Then, I have a bracket bolted on top of the top three PCI slots, which supports a 120mm fan - the idea beaing that you can move that fan about on the end of the bracket, and jig it to fit your motherboard. Keeps my AMD XP 1800 (1.53) below 50 degrees at all times - frosty, no? :cool:

 

Offline Grey Wolf

The one I'm putting in mine is the Volcano 9. Looks pretty nice. Not a bad price, too. Found one for $16 online.
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Cheers guys - the one thing I don't want to do is put something that's unstabaling heavy on there... it occurs to me that some of these things just out quite a long way.

 

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Cheers guys - the one thing I don't want to do is put something that's unstabaling heavy on there... it occurs to me that some of these things just out quite a long way.


never put a heavy fan

many (most) fans/heatsinks are attached to the little tabs (notches) of the Socket A.  if those tabs break off (which they do occasionally) then in a matter of 3 seconds your processor could be overheated.

worse:  if you're not around, a few minutes after the processor dies you'll fry your motherboard, and you may even start a fire.

:eek:

stay with lighter, faster fans :D
« Last Edit: December 06, 2002, 11:33:38 am by 594 »

 

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Originally posted by Stealth


never put a heavy fan

many (most) fans/heatsinks are attached to the little tabs (notches) of the Socket A.  if those tabs break off (which they do occasionally) then in a matter of 3 seconds your processor could be overheated.

worse:  if you're not around, a few minutes after the processor dies you'll fry your motherboard, and you may even start a fire.

:eek:

stay with lighter, faster fans :D

 
Faster fans are noisier. Also it's the heatsink what weighs, fans don't nearly as much. I'd say go for a quite big fan, or at least silent which keeps your system cool.
 
And it depends on the heatsink if it drops off. I think most (if not all, some are just very hard to install) have good enough attaching system.

 

Offline Stealth

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Originally posted by Redfang

 
Faster fans are noisier. Also it's the heatsink what weighs, fans don't nearly as much. I'd say go for a quite big fan, or at least silent which keeps your system cool.
 
And it depends on the heatsink if it drops off. I think most (if not all, some are just very hard to install) have good enough attaching system.


if even one of the tabs on the socket A , 478, or other processor slot break off, the entire heatsink, fan, or whatever you've got connected, will fall of... thus causing the processor to overheat, or the thermal monitoring unit to cause the processor to slow down/shut off...

what i'm saying, (and all experts will agree) it's better not to put some massive 5000 RPM fan on it, thinking it will "keep it cool"... because it's not unusual for the tab to break off, the heatsink/fan falls off, and boom, the whole thing is gone.

Also, tehre's no point just having a fan.  a heatsink can work on its own in older, slower processors, but for a new, fast, and hot processor, it's always good to have a heatsink AND fan ;)


So no... i'd say don't go for a big fan, unless you've got some other way of holding it onto the motherboard... like tie it on with a metal wire to the case or something.  like i said, if one of those tabs breaks off, kiss your processor, motherboard, and possibly house goodbye (if it catches on fire)

 

Offline Redfang

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Usually the heavy fans run at lower RPM's, as they can cool more with less rounds per minute, and thus are less noisy.
 
And I know, my OLD computer (going to get new for christmas, which will have the same mobo and CPU as Thunder's upgrade) only has a heatsink. At least this is silent. :D

 

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Usually the heavy fans run at lower RPM's, as they can cool more with less rounds per minute, and thus are less noisy.
 
And I know, my OLD computer (going to get new for christmas, which will have the same mobo and CPU as Thunder's upgrade) only has a heatsink. At least this is silent. :D


1)  Heavier fans run at lower RPMs cause they're usually much bigger, so they can move at slower RPM and deliver the same air flow as a small fan moving twice as fast... if you know what i mean... it's like taking a radiator fan, and taking a big industrial air conditioning fan... make them go the same speed... the big fan is going to deliver MUCH more air than the smaller one... so the CPU fans work the same principle... and also remember the slower a fan moves, the less noise it makes, and the longer it will live, since it's not pushing the motor at all. ;)

2)  Wait a sec... you're going to run a P4 with no fan, just a heatsink?  show me a picture... that must be one hell of a designed heatsink

EDIT:  re-read it... lol, i thought you were going to run a P4 with no heatsink ;)... yeah, older CPUs can run with only a heatsink, but that's liek 500 mHz max :)
« Last Edit: December 06, 2002, 01:14:28 pm by 594 »

 

Offline Redfang

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Originally posted by Stealth


1)  Heavier fans run at lower RPMs cause they're usually much bigger, so they can move at slower RPM and deliver the same air flow as a small fan moving twice as fast... if you know what i mean... it's like taking a radiator fan, and taking a big industrial air conditioning fan... make them go the same speed... the big fan is going to deliver MUCH more air than the smaller one... so the CPU fans work the same principle... and also remember the slower a fan moves, the less noise it makes, and the longer it will live, since it's not pushing the motor at all. ;)

2)  Wait a sec... you're going to run a P4 with no fan, just a heatsink?  show me a picture... that must be one hell of a designed heatsink

EDIT:  re-read it... lol, i thought you were going to run a P4 with no heatsink ;)... yeah, older CPUs can run with only a heatsink, but that's liek 500 mHz max :)

 
1) That was what I said, though not as well. So while big fans weigh more and might drop the heatsink+fan off, they also cool more for less noise. :nod:
 
2) Yeah, I'm getting XP 2400+ (Thoroughbred) with fan+heatsink, of course.
 
And yeah, my current one is Celeron 466MHz. :blah: