Two planes? On the same day? During the same incident?

Of course this happened back when the bird was still pretty new, the prob may have been corrected by now.
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If you study most Warsaw pact equipment you'll find the same "shock-trooper" mentality (ships, tanks, most MiGs). But you'll also find that thier artillery is pretty scary, as are thier helos. Most of thier later stuff is also pretty good (MiG-29, SU-27), but it wasn't produced in much quantity before they went bankrupt...
[This message has been edited by jonskowitz (edited 09-21-2001).]