[ChronoReverse]

Good grief.... :V: allowed Myrmidons to carry Helios torps!?!  What were they thinking.

*whaps self

But other than that, it looks like the other Helios-capable bombers are about the right size to carry Helios torps.  And considering how few one can carry, I don't think the size of the torps should be reduced.  More triangles would be nice tho as would a skin remap.

[StratComm]

Originally posted by Hades


Wouldn't the shield protect the bomb from enemy fire...

not once your shield collapses, and bombs have a much lower hull strength than even the weakest fighter.

Originally posted by ChronoReverse
Good grief.... :V: allowed Myrmidons to carry Helios torps!?!  What were they thinking.

*whaps self

But other than that, it looks like the other Helios-capable bombers are about the right size to carry Helios torps.  And considering how few one can carry, I don't think the size of the torps should be reduced.  More triangles would be nice tho as would a skin remap.

It's an easter egg - :V: did that intentionally but never allowed the combination in any of their missions.

[Raptor]

Here is my best example of what I have been working on, hopefully.

http://www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/treb.html

[EDIT] Okay, not working, I'll get back to you.........

[Nico]

copy pic link, paste, save as.
not bad, but apply some smoothing to it, being able to see the polys isn't very good. and maybe it's a bit too much, I think.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by venom2506
but apply some smoothing to it, being able to see the polys isn't very good. and maybe it's a bit too much, I think.

"smoothing", is that a function of Truespace? I was counting my self lucky in getting this into the game, and STABLE, in the first place.

In game, the polys don't show as much.

If you can point out the 'smooth' control, that would help.  Truespace 2 version, however, so it may not be in there.

BTW, <cue shocked voice>

Originally posted by venom2506
not bad,

NOT BAD???? That is an almost exact replica of the tech room ani!
<un-cue shocked voice>

EDIT: I still can't get it, even copy shortcut-and-paste isn't working.  Must be doing sometihng wrong......

[Nico]

I'm not a TS user, but yeah, TS must have smoothing.
Well, yeah, not bad, I'll be in owe if you make something more impressive than a missile
btw, what's the polycount?

[Raptor]

Ah, now I understand.  Compared to the great warships and fighters being created by people who have been here a long time (or not, eg Fnordbear (sp?)), this is not very good.

I suppose I should have used an in gane shot than a modelview pic.

I would create my big nasty bomber, but I have yet to figure out how to do seperate submodels in TS.  Give me time;) .

As for polycount, the original had, in the missile at LOD0, 31 polys.  My version has 634.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Raptor
Ah, now I understand.  Compared to the great warships and fighters being created by people who have been here a long time (or not, eg Fnordbear (sp?)), this is not very good.
 

no, you don't understand. never said it was not very good, damn I just say that it's just a missile, not the best subject to show your skills: I can do a missile in 3 minutes, it's just a matter of drawing a pretty spline, lathe it, add a few extruded fins, voila
But that doesn't mean it's not good just because it's simple, don't get me wrong.

[Black Wolf]

Originally posted by beatspete
...i belive i have a solution...

http://www.angelfire.com/stars4/beatspete/bombstrap.html

Now that would be cool - you may need to sexp your way though the firing process, and use specially set up docking points, but that would make for an amazing mission, unique and interesting (if potentially frustratring. If you se tup the warhead model with some decentish hitpoints (for a missile) and then put it on the escort list, you could have missile status, you'd know when it was being shot up - Twould also be brilliant when fighting another FS1 style battle we must win - the GTVA developed the missile,, but didn't have the time to develop the bomber - as such, you're going in on manual

[StratComm]

Originally posted by Raptor
Ah, now I understand.  Compared to the great warships and fighters being created by people who have been here a long time (or not, eg Fnordbear (sp?)), this is not very good.

I suppose I should have used an in gane shot than a modelview pic.

I would create my big nasty bomber, but I have yet to figure out how to do seperate submodels in TS.  Give me time;) .

As for polycount, the original had, in the missile at LOD0, 31 polys.  My version has 634.

That's what I was afraid of.  While it's nice to have a more detailed missile, I worry a little bit about the prospect of having that many more polies rendered just for that small effect gain.  I was thinking that something along the lines of 150 polies would be about max.  And trebs aren't that concerning, because you'd never see more than say 10 of them in a mission at any given time.  Remaking a hornet or tornado in this fashion, though, could have a lot of potential problems.

On the flip side, it is a good model and it shows that you have potential.  Learn to do fighters (if just the hull for now) and you'll get respect around here really fast.

[Raptor]

well, so far, I've done Trebuchet, Hornet, Tempest and Cyclops.  No problems so far.

Helios is still WIP.

Partly why I'm doing this is to give new missile models for the shivans.  Nasty spikey things;)

On the flip side, it is a good model and it shows that you have potential. Learn to do fighters (if just the hull for now) and you'll get respect around here really fast.

Hmm, I'll try to get my early fighter in again.  Tried twice before.  First time, sort of in, but thursters didn't work.  Second, had 7 (?) submodels, six blank, with the seventh being only the thrusters (still not working)!:doubt:

To be fair, I've done very little lately, RLtm has been rather demanding.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Raptor
Hmm, I'll try to get my early fighter in again.  Tried twice before.  First time, sort of in, but thursters didn't work.  Second, had 7 (?) submodels, six blank, with the seventh being only the thrusters (still not working)!:doubt:  

sorry, not laughing at you, it reminds me. I tried a capship with one turret when I arrived here. still got at least 15 pofs of this one. the capship always had countless blank submodels, on some pofs the turrets did show, but they never worked
that resulted in me deciding I would never use TS again

[Raptor]

Originally posted by venom2506



sorry, not laughing at you, it reminds me. I tried a capship with one turret when I arrived here. still got at least 15 pofs of this one. the capship always had countless blank submodels, on some pofs the turrets did show, but they never worked
that resulted in me deciding I would never use TS again

Yes, my first attempt was also a cap ship, corvette class.  This was over a year ago, and I had NO IDEA what I was doing, so I was surprised when the model got though, but had NO textures, all the turret submodels were part of the hull, and it was orintated(SP?) like the RBC, the 'top' of the model was the front, and the 'back' was the keel:ick

Not good.  Not good at all...

[Raptor]

Ok, a few extra pictures for you all.

We have:
my heavy fighter, the Icarus, firing trebuchets,
http://www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/treb-ic.html

a view of my new hornet,
http://www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/hornet.html

my first version of my new model fighter, the harpy,
http://www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/harpy.html

and a view of the harpy firing the hornet.
http://www.angelfire.com/space2/raptorsnest/harp-hor.html

Now, I know that those missile maps are very bright and sharp compared to the craft.  I am planing to edit this.

The current harpy model is in need of some reworking.  I may change the design around the ends of the wings, and it does need rescaling (currently ~20% larger than a dragon)

Oh, Stratcomm, I ran a test.  2 squadrons of fighters, inculding me, with an Aeolus with hornet launchers, all craft loaded with hornets, attacking a Sathanas.
Result: there was slowdown, with my hanging back, facing the fight, and all other craft double  launching hornets.  Three of the craft were also harpys which, like the missiles, have only one LOD.

Adding LODs would cut the slow down, I feel.

I've just got to figure out how to do that in TS2......

[Anaz]

All that I'm seeing is red x's

[ChronoReverse]

That's cuz it's in tga format.

Right click the red X.  Select properties and then copy the image url directly to the address bar to see them.

[Raptor]

Maybe I should convert them to PCX images, or something else......

Comments, people?

[Black Wolf]

Just use jpegs...

[Raptor]

UPDATE

Okay, all tga pictures replaced with jpeg versions.

Hopefully people can see them..........

Comments?

[Sesquipedalian]

They look good.  I hope you have LODs for them, though.