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Offline Fetty

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eight what the **** was i thinking at that moment ?
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Offline Grey Wolf

Basically, the ships a heavily modified Miranda with the torpedo rollbar removed. In place, it has the heavy phaser turrets.
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They all have torp launchers on the underside.

Well actually, the torp launcher always seems to be on the opposite side from the warp nacelles.

No, I meant the underside of the saucer..
The Galaxy and Excelsior had em on the "neck"

 

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I have some general layout plans on the Enterprise (ncc 1701 st:os -a thru to d)

i'll post 'em later..
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Putting four phasers around the top of the Enterprise would provide exactly as much coverage as one radial strip. It would also get rid of the half-second warning that they're about to fire, and would allow them to fire at more than one target at a time (something the phaser strip has never been shown to be capable of).
Ah, but the advantage of the strips is (brace for technobabble) is that they can be linked together, so your one long strip is far more powerful than your four phaser banks.

Furthermore, most recent shots tend to ignore the phaser charging effect, also, ships can fire multiple phaser shots from one strip - Nemesis had the E-E fire four shots at once.
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Offline Kazashi

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Putting four phasers around the top of the Enterprise would provide exactly as much coverage as one radial strip.


True. Although the turrets still have to rotate to provide that coverage and can suffer from blind spots - remember that it's 4 emitters vs 400.


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It would also get rid of the half-second warning that they're about to fire


Nope.  You see, they've got these things called sensors, that pick up things like energy spikes that would occur whether it's a turret or strip powering up. Maybe the visual thing would be of benefit if the electronics were destroyed and the crew were looking out the windows.

Although, you're right about why they were put in the series: extra eye candy.

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and would allow them to fire at more than one target at a time (something the phaser strip has never been shown to be capable of).


It's perfectly capable of firing more than once from each array, and has been demonstrated.


As for the Soyuz class ship,  keep it how it's supposed to be. That means turrets and bulging sensors. The side turrets may need a bit of change in shape, and the bridge should be a bit higher. Otherwise it's looking nice, texture aside :)
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Furthermore, most recent shots tend to ignore the phaser charging effect, also, ships can fire multiple phaser shots from one strip - Nemesis had the E-E fire four shots at once.
Hmm, haven't seen Nemesis yet. Heard so many bad things about it that I'm considering giving it a miss entirely.
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It's better than AOTC.... at least I thought so.  But I was not particularly impressed by AOTC, so I guess that makes sense.
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Offline Zeronet

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uh.... :shaking: :rolleyes: :wtf:
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uh.... :shaking: :rolleyes: :wtf:
What?
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Offline ZylonBane

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Speaking of AOTC, was I the only one who couldn't tell which military hardware was on which side during the final battle?

"Oh look, big rolly things! Uh, should I cheer or boo?"
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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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About phaser strips.

why don't they fire the whole strip in a huge curtain of phaser-ness?

Anyway, nice model, based on a Miranda, is it?

 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Hmm, haven't seen Nemesis yet. Heard so many bad things about it that I'm considering giving it a miss entirely.
It's actually one of the better Trek movies. However, don't watch it late at night on the second to last day they're showing it :p
Kind of hard to enjoy it then.
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Offline Zeronet

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Speaking of AOTC, was I the only one who couldn't tell which military hardware was on which side during the final battle?
 


You probably were.
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Offline Knight Templar

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About phaser strips.

why don't they fire the whole strip in a huge curtain of phaser-ness?

Anyway, nice model, based on a Miranda, is it?


meh.. I'm sure voyager took out a cube or 4 with that method

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Speaking of AOTC, was I the only one who couldn't tell which military hardware was on which side during the final battle?

"Oh look, big rolly things! Uh, should I cheer or boo?"


sorry, by that time, my brains had stopped already.
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Bah, here's that overview diagram i'd promised 'excuse the quality had to scan the bloody thing and at a 3-page spread it wasn't easy..

i'll post a Link To the Image  to keep it from clogging up the forums..
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Offline Grey Wolf

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I would think the Soyuz would either be a light cruiser or destroyer, not a cutter - that implies something more like an Oberth.
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Offline Grey Wolf

I just wrote that because of the designation they gave it in Ship of the Line. In all actuality, since the Miranda is classed as a light cruiser, it's somewhere between a light and a heavy. It has an arnament nearing that of a heavy, but its armor is a bit on the light side.
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