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Offline Grey Wolf

Soyuz-class Border Cutter
on: January 29, 2003, 03:15:12 pm

About 1000 polys, I actually built this model for the game Star Trek: Bridge Commander. Never could get anyone to texture it for me :(
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Offline Fetty

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Reply #1 on: January 29, 2003, 03:23:38 pm
breaching pod ?
its a nice st ship but as a breaching pod :wtf:
 

Offline ZylonBane

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Reply #2 on: January 29, 2003, 03:30:24 pm
Where do you see "breaching pod" in his description? :doubt:
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Offline Thorn

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Reply #3 on: January 29, 2003, 03:30:30 pm
Cutter doesnt mean breaching pod...
Most Coast Guard ships are cutters.. theyre just patrol vessels...
Cant say I like those.... cannons... but otherwise it looks good.. for your generic flying frying pan...
 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #4 on: January 29, 2003, 03:30:42 pm
You misunderstood what I was saying. This ship is designed to patrol borders. Hence the border part. And the cutter part refers to the old type of ship.
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Offline Nico

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Reply #5 on: January 29, 2003, 03:48:57 pm
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Originally posted by Thorn
for your generic flying frying pan...


it's spreading!! yeah ;7
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Offline Thorn

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Reply #6 on: January 29, 2003, 03:50:13 pm
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Originally posted by venom2506


it's spreading!! yeah ;7

I knew you'd say something about that as soon as I posted it... :p
 

Offline Nico

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Reply #7 on: January 29, 2003, 04:01:19 pm
but... of course! :D
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Offline Thorn

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Reply #8 on: January 29, 2003, 04:09:30 pm
So predictable :D
anyway... Grey, personally I'd lose the cannons on the thing, make the nacelles a bit longer and the nacelle struts a bit sturdier looking, they look kinda flimsy...
couple of phaser strips and a torp launcher on the underside of the saucer might look good too.. but thats just me...
 

Offline Grey Wolf

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Reply #9 on: January 29, 2003, 04:12:23 pm
BTW, here is a pic of the ship the model is based on:
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Offline aldo_14

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Reply #10 on: January 29, 2003, 04:30:14 pm
:)

(likes cutters)

 

Offline ZylonBane

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Reply #11 on: January 29, 2003, 04:36:14 pm
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Originally posted by Thorn
couple of phaser strips and a torp launcher on the underside of the saucer might look good too.. but thats just me...
Phaser strips are the single most inane ship design idea ever implemented in the history of Trek. The only reason they exist is so TNG could have their cheesy "charging up" effect whenever they fire their phasers.  I'm glad, glad, glad that subsequent designs have chosen to minimize or ignore them.
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Offline IceFire

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Reply #12 on: January 29, 2003, 04:48:29 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Phaser strips are the single most inane ship design idea ever implemented in the history of Trek. The only reason they exist is so TNG could have their cheesy "charging up" effect whenever they fire their phasers.  I'm glad, glad, glad that subsequent designs have chosen to minimize or ignore them.

Why?  Seems like a very effective way to give a wide degree of firing angles.
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Offline Thorn

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Reply #13 on: January 29, 2003, 04:50:33 pm
Unless I'm mistaken (which I probably am... my Trek knowledge is limited to TNG and the newer movies)... that style of ship used phaser strips.  I think I can see one or two in that picture as well.... Which is why I suggested it....
If I am wrong... I dont know... where the hell did they hide them then?
 

Offline ZylonBane

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Reply #14 on: January 29, 2003, 04:54:25 pm
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Why?  Seems like a very effective way to give a wide degree of firing angles.
Putting four phasers around the top of the Enterprise would provide exactly as much coverage as one radial strip. It would also get rid of the half-second warning that they're about to fire, and would allow them to fire at more than one target at a time (something the phaser strip has never been shown to be capable of).
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Offline Knight Templar

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Reply #15 on: January 29, 2003, 04:56:25 pm
It is OS era.. IIRC Ships such as the Enterprise had Phaser "holes", possibly the reliant too.

I don't know if newer ships such as the Excelsior did or not..

I always thought the strips were kinda neat but.. wierd. I was thinking about trying to make "Beam Strips" one day, but decided against it. Seems slightly out of place
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Offline Knight Templar

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Reply #16 on: January 29, 2003, 04:57:42 pm
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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Putting four phasers around the top of the Enterprise would provide exactly as much coverage as one radial strip. It would also get rid of the half-second warning that they're about to fire, and would allow them to fire at more than one target at a time (something the phaser strip has never been shown to be capable of).


Can't it fire at more than one? I swear it was in TNG movie or Voya... yea.. never mind.
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Offline ZylonBane

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Reply #17 on: January 29, 2003, 04:58:34 pm
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Unless I'm mistaken (which I probably am... my Trek knowledge is limited to TNG and the newer movies)... that style of ship used phaser strips.
That style of ship is the TOS-movies style (Trek I-VI.5). Phaser strips weren't abominated until TNG.
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Offline Thorn

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Reply #18 on: January 29, 2003, 05:02:27 pm
Figures....
I do vagueley remember those ships having a torp launcher on the underside though at least....
now that I think of it.. so does the sovvy...
 

Offline ZylonBane

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Reply #19 on: January 29, 2003, 05:13:56 pm
They all have torp launchers on the underside.

Well actually, the torp launcher always seems to be on the opposite side from the warp nacelles.
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