[Ulundel]

Originally posted by venom2506


I'm not *****ing america, I'm defending my country from someone who has no right to judge it.

Quand tout renait a l'esperance,
at que l'hiver fuit loin de nous
sous le beau ci...

no-no-no-no, wrong song...

Allons enfants de la patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrivé
Contre nous de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé etc.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Warlock
Honestly though Venom .... noone in this thread has the right to judge ANY country they don't reside in.

That's been my biggest complaint with these type discussions,... tons of miss-informed ppl....on ALL sides.


BTW I find it amusing suddenly we have many geniuses in here

yeah, well, I still think this kind of dicussions have no place on HLP anyway.

[01010]

Originally posted by Ashrak
hmm lets see:


1) the president is a complete idiot
2) Sientific tests hav shown that 80% of american population have lower IQ than in any other advanced country
3) Americans think they are the best in the world and that they own it
4) americans are retarded english colonists

5) Ashrak is an idiot.

[Stunaep]

6) since this thread is going to get 0wned anyway, when any admin arrives, why don't we stop making it worse, and derail this subject.

[CODEDOG ND]

I love this the whole "America is doing it for the oil!"

If Bush wanted cheaper oil he would lift the sanctions on Iraqi and Iranian oil, disown Isreal, and wipe out all the national forest in the United States with drilling sites.

History correction for the bright one that said only civil wars were the only wars fought on American Soil.  Let's see:

War of 1812- Britian and France pulled the U.S. into this one.

Mexican War- Mexico attacked the Southern Texas borders.  So U.S. forces invaded and took most of the desert Southwest that we know of today like New Mexico, Arizona, etc.

Ashrak if you don't like it then take your little punk ass self and move.  Wait...what are you?  Like 12.  And try to be original and stop copying Stryke 9 with the Amerika bull****.

Watch the pronouns people!  You! You! You!  It's not me, I couldn't careless about what the American Government does.

I don't know why I bother with this, I'm about sick of it.

[Ulundel]

Originally posted by Stunaep
6) since this thread is going to get 0wned anyway, when any admin arrives, why don't we stop making it worse, and derail this subject.

Yeah, I said that a couple of posts ago. Time to stop.

[Rictor]

i think we are grown up enough to be able to govern ourselves without an admin telling us whats what (no offence but any person can judge for him/her self if they will get involved in the discussion.) and until now there have been no personal attacks.

This thread isnt anti-Amercian. Atleast its not anti-Americans (as in attaking the people). Its is a political debate.

what I meant to say (or what I meant but did put to words too well) is that America has never experienced the losses of war. Europe has suffered through countles wars and knows the cost in human lives is too high.

War of 1812. Excuse me? Britain and France pulled you into it? You showed up at the Canadian border and said "we're annexing you." Canada said no, and fought back. The war of 1812 was an attampted invasion by the US.

The Mexico War: Oh no, those Mexicans must be tough. Wow, you fought Mexico, big deal. You yourself claim that through the war you gained of land, and since when is Mexico considered a formidable opponent.

I love it how America thinks whoever is not against them is evil and stupid. the only person who can watch CNN without laughing is an American.

BTW do you really believe Bush is after freedom etc. Oil man, its the biggest industry in the world. America is stationing troops in the Middle East and it'll be 10 years before they start pulling out. Can you honestly be so naive as to think that America is doing this for anyone's benefit but their own.

[Tiara]

Initiating war is always for personal gain...

[Nico]

Originally posted by CODEDOG ND

1)If Bush wanted cheaper oil he would lift the sanctions on Iraqi and Iranian oil,
2)disown Isreal,
3)and wipe out all the national forest in the United States with drilling sites.

1) that wouldn't make the oil his own, would it? He doesn't want cheaper oil, cheaper oil makes less money.
2) let's not reply to that or I might throw up. Plus that would change crap, there's no oil in Israel, Israel wouldn't care, and that would be soooooooo bright to threaten one of the most powerful armies in the world. Crap, I replied.  
3) there's no oil there. guess what, oil is where forests are dead. if there's a forest, there's soil renewal, hence no petrol.

Warlock is soooooooooooo right.
Not gonna check that thread anymore, have fun.

[Ashrak]

Originally posted by Warlock
*Looks over thread*



I'd like to point out something ....while you all ***** about America sucks and it's full of retards,... burn your FS disks k? They're american tools


"Oh I hate America! They're so stupid! What ? Oh of course I buy software from them and devote all my time to one of their games!"

Damn kids ... bigotry at it's best eh ?

*burns all microsoft games and CD's in general*


GO linux Go linux GO GO GO linux

[Ace]

Originally posted by Bobboau
no that is politics, what is sick is France and Germeny blocking efforts to prepaire defences for Turkey becase they don't want us to take out Sadam, that is one holy hell of a lot worse than us threatening not to suport you if you don't suport us, becase many people in Turkey could die in horable ways from this, Estonia joining NATO may lead to a less secure future but it does not ramp the prospects of you getting nailed for suporting you're allies in the very near future,
and besides why the hell do you want to join the North American Treaty Organisation, it sure as hell does not sound like you want to be on our side

It's North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Ashrak



*burns all microsoft games and CD's in general*


GO linux Go linux GO GO GO linux

Oh really .... then how are ya here ? Playing FS in your head ? And I didn't know they made Lightwave for linux,...that's kinna cool

Ok here's a cookie....go play nice.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Ace


It's North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

That has been said FOUR times

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Ace


It's North Atlantic Treaty Organization.

Ok he's been corrected 4 times now ... I think he's got the
point   lol

*Edit* Not enough coffee in me ...I can't count yet

[Solatar]

What was the original subject of this thread again? *looks* I guess, like every other thread that has to do with politics of any kind in this forum, the subject is "why we hate America". Geese guys, aren't we mature enough to stop yelling at each other about why we hate one country? Let me try...

I hate the UK, France, Germany....

[kode]

Originally posted by Hades

I hate the UK, France, Germany....

'

who doesn't?

anyway, I hate countrys.

[vyper]

Yes lets all insult the USA and while doing so allow our attention focus to be dragged away from the actions that are really hurting the people involved... Christ, this is why the US Administration has it so easy.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Ulundel
Yesterday, Bush called to our prime minister to explain him America's views plus asked him about Estonia's opinion - basically, which side are we.

Estonia has always supported the peaceful outcome but we are also trying to join NATO and USA could basically block our way to there if we do not support them in this matter.

So probably Bush said something like this...

Yo, Siim (our prime minister's first name), America and Estonia have also shared the same views but now, I heard a certain *nudge* rumour that Estonia do not support attacking Iraq. *wink* But then, you're also trying to join NATO and *wink-wink*...

He's using our damn weaknesses to find more allies! That is sick!

Bush is a psycho. Do you hear me? HE'S A PSYCHO! He realizes that only america and UK are going in this war. He can't find allies because his reasons for attacking Iraq do not excist. He just wants to have some fun while his mandate runs off.
He sent his inspectors to see if Iraq has weapons and all and it seems that it doesnt. Oh come on, don't tell me that Sadam hid them somewhere so that they can't find them. Those inspectors probably have hi-res equipment to find those. So it seems that Bush is lacking support and he can't go in this war alone. Sure, he can nuke Iraq, but right after that he would probably face the court martial and start to scratch lines on the wall in the slammer. By the way, why would Estonia like to join a Terrorist organization?

[Ulundel]

Shut up! SHUT UP!!!

[Lonestar]

Just because the US wants to take out Saddam doesnt mean everyone has to. Let the "Great Army" do its "Great Duty" on its own.

Thought the Americans can fight on their own? Why should they threaten memberships of countries if they arent supported? Thats called hitlerism, or even Bushism now that freakin American Nazi.

Sickens me to see the US threaten NATO membership on countries who wont support them. NAZIS