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Offline Sandwich

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I'm working on the Knossos add-on to the Arcadia. It'll have the usual circular spinny-thingy, but I want to know how everyone thinks would be best to orient it in relation to the Arcadia.

It will be connected to the Arcadia not via the hexagonal hole, but via the huge vertical slot/canyon/crevice in the side of the Arcadia opposite the landing platform.

Since it will be positioned on that end, I'm ruling out a positioning along the left-right axis. So the question is this: should the jumpgate be oriented so that ships travel through along a front-back axis, or a top-bottom axis?

I know that the standard tendency would be to orient it along the front-back, but I think the top-bottom deserves some consideration. So what do you think? Also, if you have a specific reasoning behind your preference, I would like to hear it.  

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Top-bottom axis sounds better.  

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Offline Woomeister

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Front-back.  Why?  Because humans are naturally vertically oriented creatures, and having it up-down would be kind of silly.... your ship is aligned perpendicular to the station, but normally would align parallel.
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front/back. I can understand the other one would be original, but there's a kind of galactic plan the GTVA seems to use, and that would be just weird. Plus I think it would not make mission editing easier  
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Offline aldo_14

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Front/back

Other way looks a bit odd to most.

 

Offline Fineus

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Front/back - it's generally easier to use for mission makers and so on. And it looks more in keeping with standard Terran design.

 

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Offline PSYCHO

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  Front Back ............Sounds interesting

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Offline Sandwich

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Originally posted by LAW ENFORCER:
*Select vertex(s)*
*Vertex menu*
*Mirror Front to Back*      

  Uhhh.... huh? Is that just a fancy way of voting for front-back, or something entirely else?  


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Offline Taristin

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 Front Back ............Sounds interesting


Yeah... I'd like that too...
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Offline Alikchi

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Front-back. It wouldn't feel right any other way.
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Top-Bottom. I'm probably talking rubbish here because I can't remember the exact  orientation or positioning of the docking points on the Arcadia; I presume they would be front-back, and ships approaching the station almost certainly will approach from front-back. Using top bottom for the gate should (hopefully) keep the flight path into the gate free from traffic that just wants to dock with the station, and vice versa.

Okay, it probably won't, but I say Top Bottom anyway, just to be different  

[This message has been edited by Fulgrymm (edited 10-17-2001).]

 

Offline joek

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I vote for top-bottom.

Why? Well in my campaign (16 years after FS2), beam cannons have been improved so that they can put them on the Arcadia. So I've upgraded the Arcadia, and I but a LRBGreen on the top and bottom "towers".

Having the portal so that ships pass through the top and bottom, if an unwanted ship comes through the portal, then the LRBGreens on the top and bottom towers would have a nice shot at it.  

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ARRRGGGHHH!!!! (I guess I asked for it... :-/ )

 

Well, the Front-Back Faction has it's strength in numbers, while the Top-Bottom Faction has more detailed reasoning. So keep voting, people!  

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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

Offline Nico

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ARRRGGGHHH!!!! (I guess I asked for it... :-/ )

 

Well, the Front-Back Faction has it's strength in numbers, while the Top-Bottom Faction has more detailed reasoning. So keep voting, people!  


? there's also detailled reasoning for front/back. Anyway, I should add that: it would be rdiculous: imagine a hecate jumping in from your vertical jumpgate. Now it needs to be involved in a fight. It has to do a u-turn, go down, and turn again to be horizontal. Then it has to turn again to face the wrong directoin, then it has to stop coz there's vomit everywhere on the bridge and the crew need to clean it. then commands shout at the officer coz the battle is lost, and eventually the hide coz they found out that pumping out of the jumpgate like a whale jumping out of water would look quite silly  
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... then it has to stop coz there's vomit everywhere on the bridge and the crew need to clean it...

Thanks alot! I spit on my monitor laughing at that!  

Yes, that makes sense for front-back, but I like trying to make missions in more than just the X and Z (in FRED that is).

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