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Offline Stunaep

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STUPID, STUPID, STUPID!!!!

I autosaved at an unfortunate point in the body of the Many, that caused me to die a fraction of a second later. My last permanent save is from the Command Deck of the Von Braun.

So, quite obviously I need a save from somewhere near the big tooth-thingys in the body of the Many.
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Offline CP5670

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I really hate it when that happens; although it has not yet been a problem in this particular game, I have experienced it numerous times elsewhere. I usually create two seperate savegame slots and overwrite them alternatively when saving so that I always have the last game if I mess up. Anyone remember that autosave-backup feature in Descent 2? That was a real lifesaver at times.

One thing I have noticed about SS2 itself though is that the "limited" quantities of ammo that all the reviews were complaining about are barely noticeable even on the hard difficulty; the rate at which I am collecting ammo far exceeds that at which I am expending it, since I use the lasier rapier on absolutely everything except protocol droids, turrets and the gas eggs. Although there are a lot of enemies, they aren't too bright so you almost always can lure them into a corner and pick them off without taking any damage in return. And unlike most games, there does not seem to be any limit on how much ammo of one type you can carry (or I have not reached it yet), so I don't have to worry about using up ammo when I find some that I cannot carry any more of, which is what happens to me in almost every other FPS game.

Also, one tactic I have found very useful is to create an inventory stockpile near the main elevator somewhere, which works well if you cannot carry some things but want to keep them in case you need them later. My position is right outside the engineering elevator, since there no guys respawning around there.

Lastly, there are some hybrids that throw frag grenades at you without using a launcher. Can you do the same thing?
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Offline Stunaep

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as a response to your question: No.

as far as your elevator tactic goes, what do you do when you leave the Von Braun?

btw, I found a godmode cheat and managed to survive whatever killed me.

Finished the game 5 minutes ago. I loved the virtual Citadel Station.
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Offline Levyathan

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Now it's time to go for the real one, then.

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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That god mode cheat, while useful, removes a lot of the atmosphere from the game, as you cannot be killed, you have no reason to fear. there is also a cheat that stops enemies respawning, but it doesn't work.

The summon_obj cheat is very good though. try summon_obj rumbler.

 

Offline Stunaep

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removed the godmode as soon as I could resave.
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Offline CP5670

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as far as your elevator tactic goes, what do you do when you leave the Von Braun?


oh, I have not played that far yet. Can you return to the von Braun at all after that point?
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Offline Stunaep

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Yes. Up until the.... but I won't spoil that for you. Yes you can, but after you leave the Von Braun, it's pretty much straightforward to the end from there.
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Offline CP5670

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ah okay, that's nice. I am currently finished with the objectives on the ops deck and am heading to the recreational deck (and trying to decide how to use the accumulated skill points :D), so I guess it would come sometime after that deck is complete.

By the way, which is generally better, the laser rapier or the crystal piece? (just finished researching the crystal but I cannot tell if it is any better than the rapier)

 

Offline ZylonBane

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Originally posted by Stunaep
removed the godmode as soon as I could resave.
Are you talking about the "ubermensch" cheat? My understanding was that it was permanent once applied.

BTW, the Crystal Shard kicks ass. Much better than the Laser Rapier. Combined with the hand-to-hand O.S. upgrades and the various strength-enhancers, you can kill anything in two or three swipes.
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Offline Stunaep

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Originally posted by ZylonBane
Are you talking about the "ubermensch" cheat? My understanding was that it was permanent once applied.

BTW, the Crystal Shard kicks ass. Much better than the Laser Rapier. Combined with the hand-to-hand O.S. upgrades and the various strength-enhancers, you can kill anything in two or three swipes.

no, I used the command line option.

Anywaym Crystal Shard rawks. But the Laser Rapier is good at taking out cyborg mercenaries. But, don't worry CP, you´ll be on the Von Braun for a long time, you haven't even gotten to the Command Deck.
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Offline CP5670

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Is there a sixth deck? (the elevator only shows five)

I tried using the rapier and the shard against some hybrids as a test but they seemed to do about equal damage. Then again, the wrench also did the same damage on the hybrids, but was much less effective at armored targets.

 

Offline Stunaep

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There is the main shaft on the recreational deck. You'll get access to it, with a little bit of help from the AI we all love to hate.
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Offline HeX

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Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
That god mode cheat, while useful, removes a lot of the atmosphere from the game, as you cannot be killed, you have no reason to fear. there is also a cheat that stops enemies respawning, but it doesn't work.
 


Yes it does. It doesn't STOP all spawning, just reduces it alot. For example, with out it on the medical deck there will be new guys that pop up from time to time in areas you cleared out no matter where you are.

However, with the cheat, only certain areas spawn new guys and only rarely. Examples would be the Engineering deck near the cargo bays, most of the Hydroponics deck, and the living areas of the Recreation deck. Without it, enemies will respawn anywhere and alot more often I found.
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Offline Styxx

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There's a config file you can edit to remove all respawning.
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Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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That's the one I meant, it won't work for me.

 

Offline Levyathan

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Good for you, you'd have ruined the whole point of the game if it had worked.

 

Offline CP5670

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Actually, the respawning is kind of a good thing at times, because you can frequently get a lot of extra items from the dead guys. At the moment I have some 45 med hypos and 220 shotgun slugs, probably at least half of which are from dead hybrids. :D

 

Offline Petrarch of the VBB

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Hmm, you can also build up quite a supply of coke cans.

 

Offline HeX

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Originally posted by Styxx
There's a config file you can edit to remove all respawning.


Yeah I did that. That's what I was talking about. However, enemies still seem to pop up just not as much. Is there a way to totally stop it?
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