[an0n]

Reese said that SkyNet was dead. Their defence net was smashed, their HK's were being slaughtered and the time-machine was blown to pieces seconds after he stepped through.

So:

• How was SkyNet able to finish the T-1000 with all their stuff gone?
• How was SkyNet able to build another time machine when they were in complete chaos?
• If the time-machine can only send back living matter, how did the T-1000 manage to go through?
• If they'd captured SkyNet's most top-secret research lab then they should've been able to easily annihilate every last machine with all the advanced technology contained therein. Why didn't they?
• They all keep saying that the future is uncertain, but everything that happened over T1 and T2 seems to indicate that everything is fixed, so how come no-one has twigged that they're screwed no matter what they do?
• Isn't the T-X the sexiest, most deadly, most powerful, most destructive, most awesome thing you've ever seen?

Answer them, NOW!

[karajorma]

I can`t answer the rest but in T2 they definately did change the future. Dyson no longer invents the chips that made SkyNet.

Of course if SkyNet was able to send a 3rd Terminator machine through for the third movie that must mean that there is something else equally important that they have to wipe out.

Oh. And my bet is that T1000 came back in time through a plot hole rather than a time machine

[Martinus]

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Plot holes?
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[an0n]

Originally posted by karajorma
I can`t answer the rest but in T2 they definately did change the future. Dyson no longer invents the chips that made SkyNet.

What if the future humans were just wrong?

Maybe it wasn't Dyson. Or they found out all the stuff about Dyson leading the research but never found out that he blew it all to pieces, then some other guy picks up the research from the charred remains and........

Oh. And my bet is that T1000 came back in time through a plot hole rather than a time machine

Hmmm. Maybe it came back inside a T-800 (or some other form of SkyNet construct) and maybe that's where the chip comes from to revive SkyNet after Dyson died.

Did we see the T-1000 arriving? I forget.

[SKYNET-011]

That is confusing, I had a stab at answering-

#1:Maybe they had some sort of hidden base?

#4:The technology was probably designed to fit into the machines, and so it would take awhile to redesign the weapons useable by humans.

#6:Yes.

[Warlock]

If you want to analize the T series.... you have to do one thing first,...write the ENTIRE line of films off as screwed.

Why ?

"We can only send organic matter through the time machine"

Now what's INSIDE the T-800 boys and girls ? ?

If they couldn't even keep there damned drawers on,....why in the hell would it allow a tissued covered robot to go through ? Hell,... leather pants would have worked

[ZylonBane]

My theory-- the only reason that "organic-covered matter" rule exists is so they could do the "give me your clothes" scene (twice!).

Anyway, as far as T2 is concerned, all they did there was break the time loop. Skynet obviously was initially developed without the help of the leftover Terminator parts. Otherwise the Terminator wouldn't have been able to be sent back in the first place. The time loop just made things worse-- more advanced AI technology being deployed more early.

So the Terminatrix in T3 must be from the Skynet that will be developed without the aid of future-imported technology.

Of course, I doubt this theory will be backed up by the film. The Terminator films may be great, but they're not exactly "thinkers".

[Warlock]

Originally posted by ZylonBane
My theory-- the only reason that "organic-covered matter" rule exists is so they could do the "give me your clothes" scene (twice!).

LOL true

[an0n]

Hmmm. Never thought of that.

The advancements made from study of the T-800 resulted in SkyNet having the T-1000 operational by the time they were ready to start sending people back.

Methinks the T-X will end up being something bigger than just a Terminator sent to kill Connor. Methinks she'll end up being part of SkyNet's central intelligence or a Terminator sent back to screw the timeline completely and single-handedly create SkyNet and initiate the rise of the machines.

[ZylonBane]

Originally posted by an0n
The advancements made from study of the T-800 resulted in SkyNet having the T-1000 operational by the time they were ready to start sending people back.

If that's what happened, it's in a parallel timeline that was never filmed. The T1000 in T2 was the second Terminator sent through in the filmed timeline, not the first.

At least we know that the events in T1 represented the second-or-more iteration of the time loop, since future-Conner already knew Reese was his father.

But this still doesn't answer the most important question-- Could Evil Bill & Ted Robots defeat a T800?

[an0n]

Pfff. No ****ing way.

The Good Robot Us's, maybe. But not the Evil ones.

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by an0n

• Isn't the T-X the sexiest, most deadly, most powerful, most destructive, most awesome thing you've ever seen?

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What's the T-X?

[deep_eyes]

If u remeber in T1 and t2, arnold said his skeleton was covered with ORGANIC TISSUE, which bled, looked real etc. the whole thingi s i undestand the contradicting issue of, if it aint flesh it aint goin, and i agree but u know how movies are, and many people didnt care much for that but rock and jock action by BIG MAN ARNOLD.


also, skynet could still happen as another face (look at Skypage telecomunications, they now have cellphones and hand held organizers that go online- using SkyNet.......)

it woulda been funny if skynet in T3 timeline became like a phone company instead...

i do believe that skynet and the terminator issue still gonna happen simply cause although like this guy said earlier, all they did was stop the terminator stuff fom affecting the technology to advance the skynet system itself. suppostely it was made without the help prior. so wheater the arm and chip was there or not, it was going to happen, sorta like a minority report headache theory.

[Dark_4ce]

I'm quite partial to the "plot hole" theory myself. Plot holes have unimaginable power in creating random events that cause absolute illogical things to happen. So the portal we saw when the t-1000 emerged wasn't a time machine hole but a plot hole. This proves that Skynet was WAY ahead in its technology, because it proves it has created a plot hole device! Skynet found a way of harnesing random event portals and projecting them to alternate places.

A machine that can create things at its whim and send them to where it wishes! Unfortunately the plot hole device seems to only create "seemingly" indestructible cyborgs that always in the end happen to get their asses kicked. This is probably because Skynet created the PHD (plot hole device) to kill John Connor. And as a side effect, the plot hole device figures John as the protagonist and therefore creates only machines that he or his buddies can kill. This is ofcourse unknown to Skynet who happily uses it each time something goes wrong.

Also the actual creation of the PHD solidifies the fact that Skynet will be created because "it just does". Another amazing power the PHD has.

Plot holes seem to be a natural occurence in the events of human alternate history. Very good examples are in such places as "Reign of Fire" where humankind seemed to magically forget it had fighter jets that could bring down all the dragons from the sky, and instead opted to use nukes, hoping that they could kill a few sleeping on the ground.

A person should never underestimate the power of the Plot Hole. Its randomness is unquestionable and its logic unfathomable.

[silverwolf]

Originally posted by J.F.K.


What's the T-X?

ditto

[Warlock]

Originally posted by J.F.K.


What's the T-X?

http://www.terminator3.com/

[an0n]

The T-X is what every man wishes he could die from.

A stunningly beautiful woman with infinite stamina and an arm that can turn into a plasma-cannon.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by an0n
The T-X is what every man wishes he could die from.

A stunningly beautiful woman with infinite stamina and an arm that can turn into a plasma-cannon.

Maybe in your world I`d prefer a stunningly beautiful woman with infinite stamina and an arm that can turn into a hamburger. [homer simpson] mmmmm hamburger

[Dark_4ce]

My friend once said that the ultimate woman would be waist height with no teeth. And a flat skull for the beer. He was an odd man from South Carolina...  

On the T-X...

I wouldn't mind being terminated by her!

"Are you John Connor?"

*Eyes beautiful woman.*

"Hell, I'll be anything you want me to be!"

*Gets blasted away by protable plasma cannon.*

[karajorma]

Look guys. We have evolved past the preying mantis and the black widow. It's no longer a requirement that males die to have sex