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Offline HotSnoJ

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on: March 09, 2003, 04:45:01 pm
I'm pretty sure this idea will be shot down rather quickly, but I'll say it anyway.

Well since there aren't many free 3D modeling programs out there. What if someone tweaked Blender (it is open source) to export cobs or even POFs? Maybe even tweak the uv system to be more like tS.




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Reply #1 on: March 09, 2003, 05:11:52 pm
Yeah, it would be nice to support Blender, as it's one of the only truly free 3D modelling programs.  

Don't know if they have an extension API (like max or ts), but they provide the source, which is even better.
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Reply #2 on: March 09, 2003, 09:37:43 pm
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What if someone tweaked Blender (it is open source) to export cobs or even POFs?
Coding an export filter is far beyond the realm of a "tweak". :rolleyes:
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Reply #3 on: March 10, 2003, 08:58:49 am
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Coding an export filter is far beyond the realm of a "tweak". :rolleyes:


Ooh! Pick, pick, pick! :D

Good idea, even though the first time I opened up Blender I closed it again mighty quick - what a user interface nightmare!
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Reply #4 on: March 10, 2003, 09:26:48 am
yeah, a gmax converter would be much better.
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Reply #5 on: March 10, 2003, 09:34:36 am
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yeah, a gmax converter would be much better.


Better, yes - but it would cost.
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Reply #6 on: March 10, 2003, 09:43:45 am
Blender is not that hard after you get used to it. The interface is even easier than Max  one.. only different.. . My brother is very good with blender.. and in fact it is using it instead of 3d Max that he used before. Bute there is a little problem.. THERE IS NO UNDO!!!
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Reply #7 on: March 10, 2003, 09:45:36 am
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Bute there is a little problem.. THERE IS NO UNDO!!!


:lol: I don't call that a "little" problem! :lol:
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #8 on: March 10, 2003, 09:45:38 am
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Better, yes - but it would cost.


what would it cost? gmax is free, fs2 is free, no money in the equation, blablabla etc.
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Reply #9 on: March 10, 2003, 09:56:23 am
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what would it cost? gmax is free, fs2 is free, no money in the equation, blablabla etc.


Development of a file format exporter is what would cost. Or hadn't you noticed that it's not given out freely to game companies wanting to include gmax modelling in their game?
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill
 

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Reply #10 on: March 10, 2003, 02:39:08 pm
how about i shoot you for using that poor-data-generating piece of total trash
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Reply #11 on: March 10, 2003, 03:06:35 pm
whatever happened to the 3ds support PCS was going to have. I'd like to see that done.
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Reply #12 on: March 10, 2003, 03:11:00 pm
As long as you make sure all the faces are right before you export to DXF and while in TS2, the geometry works fine.
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Reply #13 on: March 10, 2003, 03:51:17 pm
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Development of a file format exporter is what would cost. Or hadn't you noticed that it's not given out freely to game companies wanting to include gmax modelling in their game?


huh.
I've seen many different exporters around for any format, I don't think anybody paid to do that, and I suspect most of the people who wrote those don't even have the progs. afaik, one is free to write any prog he wants as soon as he doesn't reap code from another prog.
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Reply #14 on: March 10, 2003, 04:14:55 pm
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how about i shoot you for using that poor-data-generating piece of total trash


Take your best shot. :D




But seriously, how about shooting me for deciding to use that poor-data-generating piece of total trash after I have a choice in the matter, hmm? But so far, it just so happens that the games supporting gmax file exporting don't have anything else that can export their file format. So go suck on an ice cube to cool down, dude. ;)
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Reply #15 on: March 10, 2003, 04:45:32 pm
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RUN  FOR YOU LIVES!


I should have never started this thread.



Anyone like my idea? *goes and hides again*
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Reply #16 on: March 10, 2003, 04:49:59 pm
he from that posistion, he can´t fire that thing. i beleive it is supposed to be mounted on vechiles, like tanks or APC´s.

so head back, and stab him, no J/k :).
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Reply #17 on: March 10, 2003, 05:14:00 pm
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he from that posistion, he can�t fire that thing. i beleive it is supposed to be mounted on vechiles, like tanks or APC�s.

so head back, and stab him, no J/k :).


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Reply #18 on: March 10, 2003, 10:19:44 pm
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whatever happened to the 3ds support PCS was going to have. I'd like to see that done.


i wrote plugin support into it so someone else who actually uses 3ds and knows it well enogh to be able to write a converter from .3ds (will plenty of reference code from the .cob converter) could write a plugin, but nobody ever got off their lazy asses and wrote one
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Reply #19 on: March 11, 2003, 02:19:25 am
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i wrote plugin support into it so someone else who actually uses 3ds and knows it well enogh to be able to write a converter from .3ds (will plenty of reference code from the .cob converter) could write a plugin, but nobody ever got off their lazy asses and wrote one


to my greatest despair :(
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