[Falcon X]

True.  Very true.  But what has happened when we have been attacked?  RAGE.  You do not enrage this country.  You know what we could do if that happens.  Afghanistan was nothing.  We haven't used our full force since WWII.

[Solatar]

Bush just gave Saddam Hussein 48 hours to leave the country.

[Falcon X]

Yup

[Unknown Target]

Originally posted by Falcon X

Tell me chief... can the renouned scientist Hawking pronounce ****?  No he can't.  Therefore according to your logic he is a dumb-ass.  
 

But is Bush paralyzed in everything except a finger and an eye, and speaks through a mechanized voice box? No.
Besides, Hawking is, as you said, a renouned scientist.

Dubya is dumber than my left toe.

Not my RIGHT toe, mind you, my LEFT toe! My RIGHT toe got a 4.0 GPA average during college

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Stealth

In the history of the United States, not once has she been bombed during war.  

two words Pearl Harbor

And for those that have been worried about a bloodbath ,... notice Bush made a point to annouce the military will give the Iraqi military a clear set of things to do to avoid being attacked as long as they choose to allow the US/Brit forces to destroy any WMDs.

[Unknown Target]

Ok, this (thread) is turning into a bloodbath...

[Falcon X]

Scratch out.  Didn't see the thread remark.

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
Ok, this (thread) is turning into a bloodbath...

Oh ... really ?

[Solatar]

Originally posted by Warlock



two words Pearl Harbor

 

Pearl Harbor wasn't one of our states during WWII, thus it wasn't in the US...

[Falcon X]

It was a sneak attack (thus cheap shot) on the US herself.  Historically we don't take kindly to attacks.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Hades



Pearl Harbor wasn't one of our states during WWII, thus it wasn't in the US...

well pearl harbor is in hawaii which is US territory.. and the US has a major naval base there..

[Warlock]

Originally posted by Hades



Pearl Harbor wasn't one of our states during WWII, thus it wasn't in the US...

Tisk tisk

1898
Hawaii is annexed to the United States

1941
December 7th, Japanese bomb Pearl Harbor. The U.S. enters World War II. Martial law is imposed in Hawaii until October 24, 1944.



Knowledge is a terrible thing to fake

[Goober5000]

1959
Hawaii becomes a state

Probably what they meant.

[Bobboau]

48 hours
or I guess it's more like 45 now

tick tock Sadam :devil:

[Fetty]

told u so

[Knight Templar]

ooooh I can't wait.

we finally get to see some action. Now if only the media weren't so controlled and showed something different. Every news show on every channel every hours says exactly the same thing over and over..

[Turnsky]

well i guess the US forces can't wait to test out thier new toys

[Bobboau]

we will and have waited,
we will and have take great pains to use them as little as nesicary,
and besides we did just test them, remember, Afganistan,
it was a pretty good test

[Tiara]

Originally posted by Falcon X


For those of you who think this will be a massacre I advise you to consult recent and all of history.  I am not meaning to brage... I'm intending to clear something up..  The USA is the most powerful nation in history when it comes to sheer contest and ability to reach out and touch someone.  

A). I am in my final year of my study on the uni. Guess what? I study history.

B). The US thinks that it'll be a walk-over. NOT! No war is like that. This is what will claim the most victims. If Saddam manages to absorb US blows (by flooding swamps in the south near basra, torching oil fields to mislead infra red missiles, etc etc etc) Bush will need to look for otheroptions and it WILL get nasty.

C). Again, dont try to lecture me about history.

D). There has never been a war like this. The closest thing to this is Vietnam, and that wasn't a real success. It had quite some massacres on both sides.... Exactly what i suspect that will happen here.

My point of view:

I totally agree that Saddam has to go. But the way the US is handling this is absurd. They are causing a breakdown in the intercontinental community. Russian, China AND France were ready to put in their veto right. Thats why Bush never put the new resolutioin on the table. It'd create "problems" or his war. This is a war that affects us ALL. The US has no right to bypass the opinion of all other nations.

[Bobboau]

I think only France was _going to_ use there veto, Russia and China probly would have if there was any need to (france is doing it already so why bother) but they were (at least officaly) open to negotiations.

I keep hearing people saying this is going to be a bloody horror then I hear people saying that they keep hearing the same things and point out that the same things have been said for the last ten years and we have yet to encounter one.
but, over the last year or so I think this has gone from cake walk to (probable) blood bath due mostly to the amount of time that has been aforded Sadam,
I realy don't know wich way it's going to land, and thats just it, nobody knows how this is going to turn out.
 
but you know I think I have prepared for the worst,
I just want to be far enough from the epicenter of the counter atack that I can live long enough to hear all the people say
"oops, I guess he did have them after all"
if that is the last thing I hear I will die happy