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do you think we should, you know...

I am an american and I think we should
25 (26%)
I am american and I don't think we should
14 (14.6%)
I am american and don't care what hapens
4 (4.2%)
I am not american and I think we (you) should
11 (11.5%)
I am not american and I don't think we (you) should
32 (33.3%)
I am not american and I don't care what you do
7 (7.3%)
I am american living elsewhere and will do it myself if they don't!
3 (3.1%)

Total Members Voted: 94

Voting closed: March 12, 2003, 05:52:55 pm

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Offline Sandwich

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Don't look at me - I ain't no American soldier... thank God.

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:wtf:

On what planet have you been? It was an invasion, and that means WAR. In war there are civvilian casualties. And considering the human-shield factor its still VERY low for a full blown invasion.


Yea and Amen. Jeez, people, where has this wishy-washy generation gotten to? You get the freaking WAR televised directly into your home. That's mistake Number One, but nooo, the public has a freaking Right to Know - even though they don't have the capability to understand. :rolleyes: I know what goes through military people's minds when making various decisions, I also know how incredibly insane it is to try and get perfect coordination of military forces - especially from different countries. Mistakes happen, especially in war. Quit harping on this ten-thousdand year old fact to cover up your embarassment at not having known this previously - or not having cared.

Mistake Number Two: All the bragging about the "precision" munitions the Allied forces are using. Yes, they are precise, and yes, they will hit within a few meters of their designated target. But that's the catch.... "their designated target". Human error is one of the worst killers in wars.

But imagine this: Iraq puts up a serious fight. Heavy loss of life on all sides, with Allied losses in the thousands, if not tens of thousands. Would the world be nit-picking over every single unaccounted-for explosion in some flea-bitten market in Bagdad? Gimme a break. Just because there hasn't been heavy fighting compared to previous wars (not counting the 1st Gulf War, which was run by remote control), single-minded civvies the world over feel the need to harp on every uncrossed 't' and undotted 'i'.

Get a life.

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Say that to these people: http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR SMALL CHILDREN AND THOSE WHO HAVE WEAK HEARTS  

But I agree with CP, these things has been discussed before and I know that war = civilian casualties but it's the lack of respect for these civilians on these board that are pissing me of. If it was people from some western countries we would all cry like little babies.


Why thank you for posting this, but you need to amend your warning. Something like this should do:

PLEASE NOTE THAT SOME OF THESE PICTURES ARE NOT SUITABLE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, SPECIFICALLY THOSE WHO HAVE NOT PREVIOUSLY SEEN THE UGLY REALITIES OF WAR. IF YOU ARE SUCH A CIVILLIAN, UNDERSTAND THAT THESE BATTLEFIELD PICTURES ARE A HARSH AND GROTESQUE RECORD OF WHAT HAPPENS IN ANY AND ALL WARS.

THEY ARE NOT ALL THAT UNIQUE AS FAR AS WAR GOES, OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT THE NEWS MEDIA PROVIDING THE PICTURES IS HEARTLESS ENOUGH TO REVEAL THESE PICTURES TO THE PUBLIC IT REPORTS TO. BUT THIS SHOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT THE RULING POWERS IN THIS INVADED COUNTRY ARE UNSUITABLE TO LEAD MERE CIVILLIANS AND MUST BE REPLACED FORTHWITH.


There, that's more like it.

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I'd rather be tortured, I must say.


Then I'm sorry, but you're an ignorant human being who has no idea of the horrors we are capable of inflicting on each other. :(

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So what you're all saying is that the American army should be run by Brits? Blimey... ph34r the ultimate fighting force :cool:


Hey, get rid of those sunglasses, mister! Are you a soldier or a policeman? ;)

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nah the yanks should just stop paying 8 billion a year to the isralis so they can buy brand new bulldozers to bulldoze orphanages with and give it to the MOD instead :p


Oh, please - don't even start. As is obvious from this one post, you are quite uninformed about what happens here. In short, the BBC loves reporting about the bulldozed orphanages while forgetting to mention that they were being used as explosives labs or whatnot. We see this pattern of half-reporting recurring constantly and consistantly.
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Wheee!

 

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BUT THIS SHOULD PROVIDE ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT THE RULING POWERS IN THIS INVADED COUNTRY ARE UNSUITABLE TO LEAD MERE CIVILLIANS AND MUST BE REPLACED FORTHWITH


Er... how? They didn't blow up those people.

But you're right. Saddam should have opted to have his soft target civilians replaced with a populace of heavily armored robot-men when he knew the war was coming, so as not to inconvenience enemy forces or cause city conflict to put actual people at risk. Then none of this wouls have happened! Damn him!

  

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blah blah blah..... ok, this really isn't going anywhere anymore.  Just people throwing the same arguments around repeatedly.
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