Author Topic: Should beams pierce shields? (Read 10047 times)

Goober5000 · **on:** March 25, 2003, 11:19:54 am

The latest SCP build fixed the old bug where beams always went right through your shields, so now your shields protect you from the beams continuously damaging your hull. However, some people are clamoring to have the old way back. I'm thinking of making it a player choice as to whether to enable shield-piercing on beams or not, but there's a fair bit of argument as to what should be the default choice.

So, post your opinion. Should beams pierce shields by default, or not?

Knight Templar · **Reply #1 on:** March 25, 2003, 11:24:38 am

Mission Designers Choice.

It may have been a bug, but It's accepted as FS Canon (peircing shields that is)

karajorma · **Reply #2 on:** March 25, 2003, 11:39:37 am

Mission Designers choice.

What you need is a no-pierce flag that you can apply to some beams to prevent them from going straight through.

Stunaep · **Reply #3 on:** March 25, 2003, 01:39:51 pm

mission designer choice.

Because LM3 was made for the 'fixed' version.

and pie.

Petrarch of the VBB · **Reply #4 on:** March 25, 2003, 01:45:54 pm

I don't think they should, as it removes all the skill from the game. AAA beams used to be a threat but now you can fly straight at a Deimos, beams all over you, and not even bother to jink. Fine if you're a crap pilot and can't jink anyway, but there's no point in beams being special weapons if they are blocked by sheilds.

Galemp · **Reply #5 on:** March 25, 2003, 02:02:56 pm

So what's with your signature?

But beams should definitely pierce shields by default. Everything should default to the Volition retail FS2 standard unless specified.

CP5670 · **Reply #6 on:** March 25, 2003, 02:04:05 pm

Mission designer's choice, but what is important is that they should go through shields by default.

kode · **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2003, 02:21:08 pm

on by default. but being hit all the time by friendly beams annoys me.

Anaz · **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2003, 02:45:18 pm

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Originally posted by kode
on by default. but being hit all the time by friendly beams annoys me.

don't fly into them, and you won't have that problem

kode · **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2003, 03:09:59 pm

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Originally posted by Analazon

don't fly into them, and you won't have that problem

I tend to ignore everything but the fighter I'm dogfighting those moments. And it's hard not to fly into them when they suddenly pierce the exact space you are in.

Darkage · **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2003, 03:15:32 pm

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Originally posted by kode

I tend to ignore everything but the fighter I'm dogfighting those moments. And it's hard not to fly into them when they suddenly pierce the exact space you are in.

I try to pay attention on whats happing around me, if i need to protect something and i am dogfighting i frequently disengage and engage the fighters/bombers attaking my objective. And if there is enemy beam/flak fire i try to jink allot, doesn't always work though:D

As for the beams i think they should be the designers choice.

I voted Pie.

Slasher · **Reply #11 on:** March 25, 2003, 03:30:31 pm

So did 40% of the people who voted.

Liberator · **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2003, 03:50:09 pm

Beams shouldn't peirce sheilds they should ignore them.

If, by "peirce", you meant do damage in spite of sheild, fine, but if you meant damage shields and hull, then no.

Beams should ignore sheilds. Not damage them.

karajorma · **Reply #13 on:** March 25, 2003, 04:16:53 pm

By pierce we mean completly ignore them and damage the hull

Woolie Wool · **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2003, 06:04:40 pm

I think that if your ship is hit by a beam, you should be ****ed. Beams should ignore shields. Plus, playing too many beams-don't-penetrate-shields missions might result in complacence, and Joe Blow who plays those sort of missions regularly might wonder why, in a new mission he's playing, the beams keep blowing him up all the time.

Mr. Vega · **Reply #15 on:** March 25, 2003, 06:46:58 pm

Well then Joe Blow can figure it out.

Seriously though, attacking capital ships needs to be difficult, a good pilot can avoid 2 of the AAA shots, so that one that hits should count.

Now if capital ships had shields, well then that's another matter. In that case there can be a beam-resist flag for capships.

If beams won't pierce shields than at least up the damage.

silverwolf · **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2003, 06:48:12 pm

i think beams should have to deplete your shields before your hull takes damage besides that won't take long for it to deplete shields

diamondgeezer · **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2003, 08:07:29 pm

Black Wolf · **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2003, 09:03:56 pm

Beams have to pierce shields by default for [V] campaign balance. No question.

Knight Templar · **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2003, 09:15:03 pm

i think Petrarch is confused. By Peirce, we mean go through, without damaging shields.

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