[Razor]

Originally posted by Kalfireth

some proof on the whole NTFS/FAT32 thing would be nice.

If you plan to format your hard drive, it will be impossible to do that with NTFS, which I mentioned earlyer. And I also told you about the file loss. You won't make a mistake if you listen to me.

[Fineus]

I'm not rubbishing what you say - but a lot of people disagree with you. I don't know either way - so some research into the pros/cons of the two formats would be the best way to convince me.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Kalfireth
I'm not rubbishing what you say - but a lot of people disagree with you. I don't know either way - so some research into the pros/cons of the two formats would be the best way to convince me.

Hm..well do what you think is best. I just expressed my opinion.

[Ryx]

http://www.anandtech.com/guides/viewfaq.html?i=63

Another link.

Re: Cluster sizes. Scroll down to the bottom of these pages.


FAT32 http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/base/fat32.asp

NTFS http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/base/ntfs.asp

[Fetty]

both work
if you want the additional security features do it
otherwise there isnt realy and pro or con i expirienced
of cource if you want to hide your xp instalation from say 98 or another FAT based os go ahead
side note : in event of big f*ckup only ntfs sys can read/rescue no dos bootdisk

[Vertigo1]

Originally posted by Razor



If you plan to format your hard drive, it will be impossible to do that with NTFS, which I mentioned earlyer. And I also told you about the file loss. You won't make a mistake if you listen to me.

Oh how wrong you are.  You can format your hard drive if its NTFS.  But then again, what do I know?  I've only been doing this for nearly a decade now.

Maybe you never heard of this thing called the RECOVERY CONSOLE.  Hell, even the Linux installer can format in NTFS.  The only thing that CAN'T read NTFS is Win9x and thats only by default.  There is third-party software available to allow Win9x to read and write to NTFS partitions.  (It only allows you to read NTFS until you pay for it.)

NTFS is FAR superior in every way to ANY FATxx file system.  Its FAR more stable, MUCH faster, and INFINITELY more secure.  Unless he's going to dual-boot Win9x and XP off of the same partition (which I don't recommend) there is no excuse for NOT using NTFS.

[Admiral LSD]

You don't even need the recovery console, you just pop the CD in, boot off it and as part of the installation you're given options to partition and format the drive as both FAT and NTFS.

[demon442]

you will need a copy of Win2k Pro handy, for XP will inevetably **** up your HD sooner or later.

[Admiral LSD]

Originally posted by demon442
you will need a copy of Win2k Pro handy, for XP will inevetably **** up your HD sooner or later.

Bull****. I've used XP for well over a year and in that time the only thing that ****ed my HD up was Partition Magic (and for the record, it was formatted with NTFS and I was able to get every single one of my important files back 100% intact).

[Stryke 9]

XP is pure, undiluted evil. It's sorta like that orange stuff they put on Cheez Puffs in binary. It will devour half your hard disk, drain your memory, refuse to open any of your software, and if it makes your computer start speaking in tongues and levitating it'd be no surprise to me. Plus, it's almost indistinguishable from Mac OS X, which means that it's the computer equivalent of dressing up in a frilly pink feather boa and midriff shirt and going out staring at guys crotches and lisping.

Trust me, if you want the XP experience, save yourself some trouble and install Satan directly onto your primary driver. It's a lighter download and you don't have to register it. Also, he's now offering great deals for your soul.

[Admiral LSD]

And the bull**** keeps coming...

Perhaps we should have people handing out towels so people can clean up the brown stains on the sides of their mouths...

[Stryke 9]

You actually got somethin' to say, son, or are you just gonna stand around screaming "No it isn't! No it isn't!"

Return to your dark lord, foul excrescence. We have no need of your XP-spawned kind around here.

[Admiral LSD]

As I said, I've been using XP day in, day out as my main OS for well over a year and I have yet to see even a fraction of the number of problems people are saying it has. What does that say to me? Quite simply, that these people are talking ****.

[Stryke 9]

And I used '95 day in, day out for four years, and never had an irreconcilable problem with it. That doesn't mean it wasn't a piece of **** written by a criminally incompetent bot and that I didn't trade out of it as soon as I realized that 98 and 2000 were at least marginally safer. If you're unobservant enough to not notice anything similar, when so many others already have- well, no skin off my back.

[Admiral LSD]

The reason I didn't notice anything was that there was nothing to notice. The install went without a hitch, all my hardware was detected and half-decent drivers were installed out of the box, my system was no less stable under XP than it was under 2000 (which I'd been using for the same amount of time beforehand), none of the basic operating procedures I'd grown used to in 2k changed in XP and I felt no less patronised using XP than 2000. Apart from the aforementioned incident with Partition Magic I've had nothing but good experiences with Windows XP which is a lot more than I can say about Windows 2000.

[Kamikaze]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
XP is pure, undiluted evil. It's sorta like that orange stuff they put on Cheez Puffs in binary. It will devour half your hard disk, drain your memory, refuse to open any of ...................... It's a lighter download and you don't have to register it. Also, he's now offering great deals for your soul.

At least OS X's base system is Darwin, which by itself as a Unix system, is acceptable. You can't say the same for XP....

[Joey_21]

Originally posted by Admiral LSD
As I said, I've been using XP day in, day out as my main OS for well over a year and I have yet to see even a fraction of the number of problems people are saying it has. What does that say to me? Quite simply, that these people are talking ****.

I've been using XP for almost a year and the only problems I've ever had is XP giving me blue screens upon bootup for some RAM reason (I had 128 mb RAM) but a simple upgrade made the OS worth the having.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Vertigo1
Oh how wrong you are.  You can format your hard drive if its NTFS.  But then again, what do I know?  I've only been doing this for nearly a decade now.

Oh sorry sir. Please forgive me. I must say that you really sound like a really experienced expert even though you are only 22 years old. Aren't ya? Aren't ya? Hey is it true that it was you who developed that NTFS? You must have worked pretty hard on it. You know, removing bugs from oldies and all, adding new stuff... So you must know why it is so cool and even know how to format it in DOS and all and not even get that message: Partition format error or something like that. Yeah all those people who attempted that must be very stupid right? But not you.

[Fineus]

Guys, stop it. Grow up.

[Ryx]

Typed format /? from command line in XP

[q]Formats a disk for use with Windows XP.
FORMAT volume [/FS:file-system] [/V:label] [ /Q] [/A:size] [/C] [/X]
FORMAT volume [/FS:file-system]

 
  /FS:filesystem  Specifies the type of the file system (FAT, FAT32, or NTFS).
 [/q]

This would seem to indicate that it is possibel to format to NTFS, provided that you have an xp/2k bootdisk.

But then again....

[q]From NTFS.com

Q: How do you format a blank hard disk drive to NTFS or NTFS5 ?

A: There are no standard utilities to format HDD to NTFS from DOS.

However there are solutions:

    *

      Attach HDD to another machine having Windows NT installed if you want to format to NTFS, or to Windows 2000 / XP if you want to format it to NTFS5. Then format drive using Disk Manager utility that is included in OS.
    *

      You can start Windows NT / 2000 / XP installation using bootable CD-ROM. On first steps of installation you will be asked about target location and you will be suggested to format the partition to NTFS. Go this way, and after format is completed, just cancel the installation process.

[/q]

Just FYI,