[CP5670]

not that part, of course it accelerates there; I'm talking about later on when it is further away from the fan/slope thing.

Actually, is this muffler thing made of foam or something (i.e. really lightweight)? the fan might work at even that range if this is the case...

[Knight Templar]

That was wierd.. it deleted CP's post.. I wonder if the board is trying to tell him he's wrong

[CP5670]

okay that was weird, the thread was messed up for a while and could not be accessed, and then my post got deleted...

ah well I still have it open in another window, I'll just copy/paste it in here:

ok yea, so it accelerates from all the initial force and then it decelerates as the force dies down (for lack of a better term.. I just woke up )

I'm obviously not a physicist, but It makes sense. Most things do that.

not that part, of course it accelerates there; I meant later on, when it is further away from the fan/slope thing.

[Knight Templar]

well yea it could still accelerate a little though right? because it still had all that force behind it and it hadn't been spent yet. It still gets to it's peak and then decelerates like it naturally would.

[Blue Lion]

I'm still trying to figure out why they would mess with the muffler at all. Why would they need to spend the time and extra effort adding in a motor?

[Knight Templar]

exactly. It doesn't need to be messed with. And even if it did, it would have been much more effecient and less tiem consuming to just move the thing 6 inches closer to the muffler.

[CP5670]

well yea it could still accelerate a little though right? because it still had all that force behind it and it hadn't been spent yet. It still gets to it's peak and then decelerates like it naturally would.

actually it starts decelerating, then goes slower and slower for a couple of rotations and then speeds up (does a rotation very slightly faster than those before it), after which it starts slowing down once again.

I'm still trying to figure out why they would mess with the muffler at all. Why would they need to spend the time and extra effort adding in a motor?

uh, maybe because it takes five minutes to do that and works well...

exactly. It doesn't need to be messed with. And if it did, it would have been much more effecient and less tiem consuming to just move the thing 6 inches closer to the muffler.

but that would decrease its cleverness, right? (after all, they could just do a different ad idea that didn't require so much work; remember that it is an ad, not a science experiment, so there are probably all kinds of tricks involved to make it easier to do for them)

[Knight Templar]

no, adding any small motors inside the muffler (which would already be detracting from the theme of having only carparts in the commercial) wouldn't make anything any more clever, just weird.

And after seing the add 10 more times, it doesn't accelerate when its 3/4 down the stretch. watch it. It's slowing down....

EDIT: like i said, it wouldn't make it easier, just needlessly complicated. Making it easier would be putting the rest of the contraption closer to the muffler, or moving th emuffler closer to the contraption.

[CP5670]

nobody would notice the motor; it would just allow it to go further, so it would indeed increase the cleverness. anyway, as I said, this is not some science experiment that has to be done under strict guidelines; it is an ad, so they aren't going to care what is really used as long as it looks like only carparts are used.

look carefully on the fifth rotation (I think that was it) and you will see a very small increase in the speed.

EDIT: like i said, it wouldn't make it easier, just needlessly complicated. Making it easier would be putting the rest of the contraption closer to the muffler, or moving th emuffler closer to the contraption.

but that would decrease the cleverness. if it only did one rotation and then immediately hit the other end, that wouldn't look so clever, right?

[Knight Templar]

Dude it doesn't accelerate on the fith rotation, it finishes the roation. It doesn't accelerate. You need to go roll some mufflers or something dude... finishing the roll isn't accelerating.

And hiding a miniature motor that has no place inside the car in a muffler to give it one supposed extra rotation doesn't sound like clever engineering to me.

[CP5670]

Dude it doesn't accelerate on the fith rotation, it finishes the roation. It doesn't accelerate. You need to go roll some mufflers or something dude... finishing the roll isn't accelerating.

no I mean the time taken to complete the fifth is less than the fourth, so there would have to be acceleration.

And hiding a miniature motor that has no place inside the car in a muffler to give it one supposed extra rotation doesn't sound like clever engineering to me.

but I already told you, you could make it go five miles if needed, and so little work is required that there is no reason why they wouldn't do that, especially since the further it goes, the more clever it looks, even if it just a short distance more than one would expect it to. remember, further = cleverer = better.

[Knight Templar]

whatever you wanna think dude...


This is really stupid to me though, I mean, it made more sense when parts that actually looked like they were fake (the tires) were being challenged..

my dishwasher just went off... shower time

[CP5670]

This is really stupid to me though, I mean, it made more sense when parts that actually looked like they were fake (the tires) were being challenged..

the tires looked like F1 wheels or something like that to me...

well I always like an argument, even if it is fairly pointless.

my dishwasher just went off... shower time

eh?

[Knight Templar]

eh?

Spoiler:

I can't be in the shwoer and have the dishwasher going at the same time. Dishwasher = off = Me in Shower. Me in shower signalfies end of my arguement

[Blue Lion]

Originally posted by CP5670
nobody would notice the motor; it would just allow it to go further, so it would indeed increase the cleverness. anyway, as I said, this is not some science experiment that has to be done under strict guidelines; it is an ad, so they aren't going to care what is really used as long as it looks like only carparts are used.

Dude how far did it roll? A couple of feet? How far did this "motor" add on to it? A rotation?

Do you honestly think people watched that whole damn thing and said

"Holy ****, did you see how many times that muffler rotated! That's ****ing awesome!!!"

If it had rolled for like a minute, yea maybe we'd be talking then. But it made what 5, 6 spins? That's a drop of water into a bathtub of cleverness.

[CP5670]

doesn't matter in this case; my original point that it cannot do that alone still stands, regardless of why they did it so. but I was certainly amazed at that extra rotation and the rate at which its speed was changing.

wait, what is that this muffler thing made of and approximately how heavy is it? If it is something like packing foam with very little weight, that might explain it...

I can't be in the shwoer and have the dishwasher going at the same time. Dishwasher = off = Me in Shower. Me in shower signalfies end of my arguement  

oh okay, some plumbing issue? I know that whenever one of the toilets here is flushed while a shower is in use, the shower water becomes either really hot or really cold (way more than it should be) for about ten seconds; no idea why...

[The Claw]

Originally posted by CP5670

oh okay, some plumbing issue? I know that whenever one of the toilets here is flushed while a shower is in use, the shower water becomes either really hot or really cold (way more than it should be) for about ten seconds; no idea why...

Could it be something to do with what you've eaten?
#runs#

[Knight Templar]

uh.. you can't generally use a dishwasher and hot shower at the same time. The water heater ain't too good at heating both.

[J.F.K.]

I just checked out the movie... wow. Never seen anything like it. Bit of a waste trying to explain all the principles to a simpleton like me, though.

As for the plumbing, when you flush the toilet, I always thought that the toilet grabs a whole bunch of cold water from the system (quite a lot if you go full flush), and less is able to be directed to the shower system. Thus the proportion of hot water to cold in the shower is temporarily thrown off balance, ie. it gets substantially hotter (whose toilets draw hot water? ), until the water deficit is recovered and the system returns to normal.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

CP, KT?

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