[Petrarch of the VBB]

Do you think perhaps Barnard's Star was included as homage to the HitchHikers' Series?

If it has many jump nodes then this is probably the case as it is "A sort of hyperspace junction, you can get practically anywhere from there."

[Nuclear1]

Originally posted by karajorma


Terran worlds.

Dubhe
Alphard
Wolf 359
Barnard's Star
Luyten 726-BA
Laramis
Ross 128
Delta Serpentis
Regulus
Polaris
Epsilon Pegasi
Mirfak
Adhara
Procyon A
Capella


Vasudan worlds


Altair
Aldebarran
Alpha Centuri
Deneb


Mixed/possibly mixed


Beta Aquilae
Sirius
Vega (possibly considering it's location but everything points to it being Terran)

I'm willing to agree with that. Most of the formerly-NTF-controlled systems would probably be short in Vasudans, maybe because of genocide or expulsion.

Vega I'll say is mixed, because its pretty close to the Vasudan homeworld, but is still inhabited by one or two Terran fleets now (4th and 3rd).

[Egg Head]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB
Do you think perhaps Barnard's Star was included as homage to the HitchHikers' Series?

If it has many jump nodes then this is probably the case as it is "A sort of hyperspace junction, you can get practically anywhere from there."

ummmmm it's a real star system,not douglas adams creation

[Galemp]

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[GrandAdmiralAbaht]

I'm pretty sure that Antares was a Vasudan system in FS1, so its probably entirely Vasudan or mixed by the time of FS2.  The Terrans also supposedly had at least 9 Core Systems (probably heavily populated) during the Great War.  Admiral Shima says so in one briefing after the Lucifer destroys the Aquilaie Installation and it arrives in Sirius.  Beta Aquilaie, in FS1, was supposed to be a mere outpost system, with only an installation and communications station (maybe some small settlements).

I also noticed that in FS1, Sirius had a jump node connecting it to Delta Serpentis.

One thing that puzzles me is that the RNI corporation supposedly built a major shipyard in orbit of Laramis II.  It's where they made the Aeolus cruiser, which probably takes quite a bit of resources.  How could a major shipyard have been established in less than 32 years?  I mean, Laramis was only first discovered midway through FS1, how could have the population multiplied so much that it became a place ideal for a major shipbuilding facility?

Yet another confusing thing is the Luyten New Alliance.  How could an independant government have arisen out of a system that must have been discovered AFTER Laramis.  Luyten is farther from the Terran core systems than Laramis, yet a significant government developed not long after the Great War.  How could this have happened? I theorize that Terrans probably have pre-fabricated settlements, so that colonization can flourish?  

As for the Vasudans in Ross 128, they probably got there by establishing a Base early in the war, or maybe before the war, and they kept it as a stronghold to harass the Terrans during the T-V war.

Oh, and any estimates on just how many Terrans and VAsudans there are in the GTVA (as in population numbers)?

[Mr. Vega]

Sirius had to have a good-sized Vasudan population, otherwise there would have been no NTF genocides.

And the Terrans didn't have 9 systems. At the time the map showed Sol, Beta Aquilae, and Delta Serpentis as green. Laramis had just been discovered, so no Luyten/beyond that systems were populated.

[CP5670]

Terran worlds.
...

Vasudan worlds
...

I think the main problem with that list is that it would seem to make more sense for the Vasudans to have colonized much more extensively. The Vasudans had more of a need to colonize early on due to their inhospitable and resource-limited homeworld than the Terrans did and they seemed to be less dependent on their homeworld than the Terrans were on theirs, so that would indicate that they have spread out a lot more. What is probably more likely is that the species have about five or six systems each (aside from the systems populated by both), while most of the other systems on the starmap are not actually fully colonized due to the lack of suitable planets. Some might be rich in metals, deuterium and such stuff without having habitable planets while others might be on the starmap only because jump nodes leading there have been found (GD is one example).

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Egg Head


ummmmm it's a real star system,not douglas adams creation

I know that, but it's not a particularly well-known one, is it? There must have been something that spurred V into putting it in game.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by Petrarch of the VBB


I know that, but it's not a particularly well-known one, is it? There must have been something that spurred V into putting it in game.

Barnard's is actually quite a well known star system since it is so close to Earth. (it's actually the second closest system to Earth).

Originally posted by CP5670
I think the main problem with that list is that it would seem to make more sense for the Vasudans to have colonized much more extensively.

Yeah. I'm to too happy about it either. What might be a possibility is that the systems like Ribos and Ikeya were Vasudan because it doesn't seem likely that any of the ones I said were terran were actually Vasudan.

[karajorma]

Originally posted by GrandAdmiralAbaht
I also noticed that in FS1, Sirius had a jump node connecting it to Delta Serpentis.

There are a few differences between the FS1 and FS2 node maps. The FS2 map is generally taken as being the correct one.

Originally posted by GrandAdmiralAbaht
One thing that puzzles me is that the RNI corporation supposedly built a major shipyard in orbit of Laramis II.  It's where they made the Aeolus cruiser, which probably takes quite a bit of resources.  How could a major shipyard have been established in less than 32 years?  I mean, Laramis was only first discovered midway through FS1, how could have the population multiplied so much that it became a place ideal for a major shipbuilding facility?

32 years is a long time. And a ship building yard doesn't need to be near a major population center. Most likely the Laramis system is very rich in resources making it a good choice for a shipyard.

Originally posted by GrandAdmiralAbaht
Yet another confusing thing is the Luyten New Alliance.  How could an independant government have arisen out of a system that must have been discovered AFTER Laramis.  Luyten is farther from the Terran core systems than Laramis, yet a significant government developed not long after the Great War.  How could this have happened? I theorize that Terrans probably have pre-fabricated settlements, so that colonization can flourish?  

Probably. After the war the GTA fractured so probably you got a large number of people heading out to the frontier to make a new lives for themselves.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by karajorma


Barnard's is actually quite a well known star system since it is so close to Earth. (it's actually the second closest system to Earth).
 

I stand corrected.

[tEAbAG]

The GTA is just that, an alliance.  It is a looser confederation of terran worlds than the Vasudan Imperium.  There are most likely smaller regional (neighboring systems) powerblocs and even smaller system groups.  Some planets might still have nation-states even.

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Hadn't thought of that, but yes, you are probably right. It'll be the UN, or NATO, I suppose.

[karajorma]

Actually I'd say the GTA (and GTVA for that matter) is closer to the US than NATO or the UN.

The GTVA has a lot of power but the regional blocks (like the states) have their own rights and powers.

[StratComm]

I would actually say that the GTVA is more like the EU with a military than the US.  Perhaps more like the US under the Articles of Confederation, but the states have very little power to call their own in this day and age.

Or if you want to stick to the UN idea, its like a UN that actually works.

And out of curiousity, what did this replace?  While we're on the topic of smilies, I want these back!

[tEAbAG]

How much of the total terran pop was concentrated in Sol?  I'd go so far as to say ~50%.

[Rampage]

Is Wolf 359 an actual system, or is it just a system that someone made up for their campaign?  The name doesn't seem to follow the trends of other systems, as most system names are either in Latin or Greek.  This system would be one of the first system with a Western Germanic name.  (Personally, I would name it Lupus 359.)

[Knight Templar]

uhh.. wolf 359 is a real star system. I'd assume from reading it somewhere and from guessing, it's named after the person who discovered it.

Just for reference: It's been featured in a of other Sci-Fi stories... Star tRek is the first one that comes to mind (The first battle between the Federation fleet and Locutus's Borg Cube.)

[karajorma]

Wolf 359 gets mentioned a lot for the same reason as Alpha Centuri and Barnard's Star. It is in fact the next closest to us after those two.

[CP5670]

In FS2 the GTVA has a fleet there, so it might be populated.