[Turnsky]

actually, anyone should know better than to blow themselves to smithereens for political/religious motivation..

[Tiara]

I saw this guy on television. They showed him reading from the Koran and showed him posing with his rifle afterwards...

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
wow that's ****ed up... so, who'd he whack?

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=294448&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

Couldn't find anything more precise (in English), sorry - darn JPost for going to (free) subscription-based service.

[Turnsky]

same here...

[Hunter]

damn thats young.... what is the world coming to?

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by Sandwich
Yep... he was a computer student, too. *sigh*

God... what can we say. That's a fallen world for you.

[mikhael]

Originally posted by Turnsky
actually, anyone should know better than to blow themselves to smithereens for political/religious motivation..

That reminds me of that great Onion article.

Being a military sort, I don't have any trouble with people killing each other in combat. Blowing up civilians--no matter who you are, no matter what you think your justification is, no matter if its 'intended' or not-- is pretty fucked up.

[Tiara]

Originally posted by mikhael

Being a military sort, I don't have any trouble with people killing each other in combat. Blowing up civilians--no matter who you are, no matter what you think your justification is, no matter if its 'intended' or not-- is pretty fucked up.

Heh, thats your opinion. They think it isn't fucked up

[tEAbAG]

Well if I really believed I would be rewarded with 70 virgins and eternal paradise, I'd have give it some serious thought.

But hell, all they really get is to be a bloodstain.

[vyper]

Originally posted by tEAbAG
Well if I really believed I would be rewarded with 70 virgins and eternal paradise, I'd have give it some serious thought.

But hell, all they really get is to be a bloodstain.

Just 70?

[Martinus]

[color=66ff00]Hope you don't think this is aimed at you sandwich but this kinda opened my eyes a little:

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1444.shtml

Two sides to every war...
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[Petrarch of the VBB]

The way I it see there is no need to have so many media people in places of such instability, or these things will continue to happen.

That said, is there is no media coverage, then the people at home could be told anything, and would have to believe it.

On the other (third) hand, this is most likely the case anyway.

I think it's better if I don't get involved.

[Zeronet]

Originally posted by Maeglamor
[color=66ff00]Hope you don't think this is aimed at you sandwich but this kinda opened my eyes a little:

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1444.shtml

Two sides to every war...
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You decided that a website called 'electronicintifada' would offer a unbiased and clear view of the hostilities?! Notice the sites name.

If you want truth, www.honestreporting.com

That site details how a picture of a jew beat up by Palastiniens was used to suggest the Israeli policemen had beaten a palastinian boy up. Its the media who are making everyone hate Israel, have you noticed as Al-Queda are called terrorists group, yet Hamas is a militant group.

Looks for the flash animations as well.

[kode]

sorry, but I can't see how a pro-israel site can be unbiased either.

the site was founded by something called aish hatorah or something like that, which seems to be a sionistic movement. nothing wrong with that, but this "unbiased" news comes from one side of the fence.

[Zeronet]

I merely offered the truth, nothing more or less.

HonestReporting is a fast-action website dedicated to ensuring that Israel receives fair media coverage. We scrutinize the worldwide media for anti-Israel bias, then alert and enable subscribers to respond directly to the news agency concerned. HonestReporting has over 50,000 members worldwide, and is growing daily.

[kode]

Originally posted by Zeronet
I merely offered the truth, nothing more or less.

I'm seriously thinking of starting a website called "the unbiased and really true truth for dumb people who are smart enough to use google to find stuff to support their own biased views", but I think I'm gonna need a shorter name. honestreporting.com perhaps?

[Zeronet]

I didn't find it on google, i typed in honestreporting to see what it would come up with.  If you feel required to somehow suggest a bias(A Roman Catholic with no connection to israel or the Jewish community, other than often negative media reports) on my part, then there is nothing stopping you. To further insult me, is a testement to the lack of respect you have forced me to further develop.

The site merely points out, that most media outlets are biased in their anti-israeli newsreporting.

http://www.honestreporting.com/a/What_is_Bias.asp

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Zeronet


You decided that a website called 'electronicintifada' would offer a unbiased and clear view of the hostilities?! Notice the sites name.

If you want truth, www.honestreporting.com

That site details how a picture of a jew beat up by Palastiniens was used to suggest the Israeli policemen had beaten a palastinian boy up. Its the media who are making everyone hate Israel, have you noticed as Al-Queda are called terrorists group, yet Hamas is a militant group.

Looks for the flash animations as well.

[color=66ff00]This was the only (non Israeli + non BBC) site that I could find with most of the story. The whole story, all video evidence and the eye witnesses was shown in a documentary on channel4. There is little possibility that this could have been an accident as the video footage shows evidence that the Israeli who shot the journalist lied about the events surrounding the incident.

The Israeli authorities claim to be carrying out an investigation but will not accept the video footage or eye witness testimonies. The documentary also detailed the shooting of a palestinian cameraman which was less clear cut as a large portion of the eyewitnesses were palestinian.

I'm not trying to say the palestinians are good or that the Israeli's are evil, it's just that every news report that we see is about a suicide bomber killing Israelis. You rarely hear this kind of thing due to Israel's tight grip on news reporting. It kinda hits a nerve as you may all have at one time or another heard that the IRA blows up people in my country but you rarely hear that the loyalist terror groups kill with impunity, thanks to the BBC's 'honest' reporting.

There is no explaination other than murder for the british journalist's death, the facts were clear cut and the lies even more so. I don't ever post this kind of thing as I'm aware that a series of events can be cleverly manipulated by the press and I rarely trust news reports. Actually I realise now (a bit late eh?)that it's never a good idea to speak of this kind of thing, someone's always going to take it as 'you're on their side...'
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[Zeronet]

Actually you hear the Palastinian civilians caught in crossfire, all the time. Israel is a democracy, there is no tight grip on news reporting.

Though individual soldiers may make mistakes, or even do reprehenisble actions, to portray this as a IDF policy is too much. Though being called the 'British' Broadcasting company, its not suprising they are biased towards loyalists.

It was an Israeli autospy that found the bullet came from the direction it did too if i recall correctly.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Zeronet
Actually you hear the Palastinian civilians caught in crossfire, all the time. Israel is a democracy, there is no tight grip on news reporting.

Though individual soldiers may make mistakes, or even do reprehenisble actions, to portray this as a IDF policy is too much. Though being called the 'British' Broadcasting company, its not suprising they are biased towards loyalists.

It was an Israeli autospy that found the bullet came from the direction it did too if i recall correctly.

[color=66ff00]The Israeli pathologist found that the bullet had come from behind the journalist and was the result of palestinians firing at him. The Family of James Miller sent their own pathologist to verify this, he said that there could be no mistake that the bullet had indeed been fired from the front.
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