[pyro-manic]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Actually, the split between Judaism and Islam was actually 600 years later, specifically in the time of Mohammed. What you are thinking of is the Muslim belief that they are descended from Ishmael, whereas there is a belief in Judaism that they are descended from Isaac. Both are believed to be sons of Abraham.

Ah! That's the one. Couldn't remember the names.

Stryke: EDIT: Ignore what I said here. Most embarrassing...  /EDIT

[Stryke 9]

pyro:

Uhh... did you ever even PLAY the game?

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Venom


no blast at all.
as for the radioactive cloud, actually, it's been proven that it made a trip around the entire planet and back to Tchernobyl, at least.

there was an explosion... not nuclear though, it was steam buildup within the reactor vessel itself which completely blew it apart...

you see they wanted to see how much the turbines would freewheel in the event of a reactor shutdown, so they turned of the main portion of it, (and all of the saftey equipment too)

and BOOM.. radioactive bits and pieces spread hither and yon..

[pyro-manic]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
pyro:

Uhh... did you ever even PLAY the game?

OOPS.

Yeah, but it was about two years ago last time I finished it. I can't remember what happened to them at all, just that it all went tits-up at some point. Post edited. Feel free to abuse me...

The fallout from Chernobyl was rather nasty - there's still a load of sheep farmers in North Wales who can't sell their sheep, 'cos the hills they graze on are still radioactive. I think it's the same in some bits of the Peak District as well, but I dunno.

[Turnsky]

they reformed after a major shakedown...

[Grey Wolf]

Gah.... Chernobyl. The exact type of people you never want to see in charge of a power plant.

Soviet Leader: Let's build a nuclear power plant! The US is doing it, and if the capitalist pigs are doing it, we can do it too! However, since money is running tight, we will put it above ground level and skimp on the failsafes.

Months/years later....
Soviet Scientist: Let's run an experiment on the plant! And turn off the failsafes!

Minutes later....
Scientist: Damn.

[Turnsky]

that's exacly what happened:p

[Grey Wolf]

It's pretty damn close. It is a shimmering example of the Soviet nuclear program, right up there with the first-generation nuclear submarines, with their poorly shielded reactors.

[J.F.K.]

Ick... that's military science for you. Bloody Cold War.

[Turnsky]

that's human nature for you...

actually, in the history of nuclear power plants... there have been only two 'disasters' involving them..one of which was a true accident..

Chernobyl: -man made (human stupidity)
Three mile island: - 'China Syndrome'(core meltdown)

so much for Greenies say nuclear is 'unsafe' all things considered, it has a reasonable track record...

[Bobboau]

one thing about nuke plans though, when they do have little gliches they tend to be big, though at the moment there the best source of power, what I would like to see in the future is a high altitude orbital power system, put it in geosynchronous orbit, beam the power back via laser or something, hell you could just put up a giant mirror that focuses the light of the sun to a small point on the ground were it is converted to electricity

[Turnsky]

that can work... but how ya gonna get it up there?..

[Petrarch of the VBB]

Originally posted by Bobboau
one thing about nuke plans though, when they do have little gliches they tend to be big, though at the moment there the best source of power, what I would like to see in the future is a high altitude orbital power system, put it in geosynchronous orbit, beam the power back via laser or something, hell you could just put up a giant mirror that focuses the light of the sun to a small point on the ground were it is converted to electricity

Sounds a lot like SimCity 2000 to me.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Turnsky
exactly... but it would make for one hell of a bluff...

and chances are, the US would send Australia's SAS forces in..

Were they among the various special forces groups that Israel has helped to train in counter-terrorisim and hostage situations?

[Turnsky]

possibly.. i dunno.. i know that the US was Extremely impressed with thier performance in iraq..

[Stryke 9]

Dude, have you seen our foreign policy towards friendly countries?

The US is "very impressed" every time the prime minister of some state doesn't crap himself in public. Bush's statements mean about as much as if he started screaming that he wanted the blue crayon.

[Turnsky]

US military commanders were impressed, i meant..

[Stryke 9]

That's slightly better. Now, impress someone who isn't patronizing to the rest of the world, though.

[Rictor]

The US is never impressed by anyopne but themselves. They say it for PR, but I think that they honsetly believe themselves to be better than the rest of humanity

[Turnsky]

good point..

still... we never had 'friendly fire' incidents..