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Offline Stealth

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer

First rule of looting - loot first, think later



hahahahhaa yeah, that's what i was thinking.

but if you think about it, there's always computers and stuff they could've stolen from those oil places.

 

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And so it continious... For every unsubtantiated argument, there is a counter-argument. An endless loop here at HLP or so it seems...
I AM GOD! AND I SHALL SMITE THEE!



...because I can :drevil:

 

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Offline Tiara

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No you shut up!
:blah: No...

Unless you guys decide to get some actual facts with your arguments... Its not a philosophical debate here you know.
I AM GOD! AND I SHALL SMITE THEE!



...because I can :drevil:

 

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:wtf:

Don't you watch Futurama?

 

Offline Stealth

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she's right though.

we've all got our opinions, i've got mine, and so therefore i resign from this argument :D

god bless America :)

 

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and tell me, CP, what is oil? what's it worth?

it's like saying gold isn't money.  i mean c'mon, use your head.


okay...what does that have to do with what you quoted? :wtf: Of course it's worth a lot, but it is one market out of many and cannot really be compared with national war spending for a much, much larger country.

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i think the US underestimated Iraq's resistance.  remember that before they attacked they made sure Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, i think they thought there'd be little fight.


You mean for the military aspect of this Iraq operation? That was actually said to be one of the most one-sided large scale offensives in recent history; the US lost something like 200 men in total and completed the takeover in three weeks.

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as far as i know America already gets oil from Saudi Arabia, so attacking it would be pointless.  Iraq, because of Saddam, they
weren't getting any oil from.  it makes sense i think.


No, how we can take all their oil just like that? They will sell the oil to us, but they obviously claim the profits. The US has an agreement with the royal family to allow the usage of their territory for military bases in that region in exchange for cash, but the government is doing that because they don't want to get on the Americans' bad side; they actually do not like the US at all and have made any official statements to that effect.

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no, i'm not saying that, but Iraq was in quite a fix too though.

If they say they had WMDs, America attacks them.
If they say they don't have WMDs, America attacks them.


Yeah, but that is alright; it was not expected that they would admit that they had WMDs even if they did (I mean, why should they?). If they did not have them, then it is okay too, since it is not a huge cost to us and it's better to be safe than sorry in such situations.

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the point isn't whether they tried, because they did, but they weren't successful thanks to the troops protecting them.  also tell me what can be sold in the "black market" from a hospital...  a lung machine?


What is a lung machine? :wtf: But anyway, hospitals at least contain some medical equipment that can carried around and all of which is quite expensive. Oil refineries contain maybe a few tables and chairs, but not much else that can be just picked up and taken (unless you are some kind of superman who can tear hundred-ton oil processing units off the ground and carry them to your home :D).

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and that's waht i've been saying... don't believe everything you hear on the media, because they are biased!  and you're agreeing with me!


Exactly! But what you have been saying is that some of the media companies are less interested in making money than others, which is what I am countering.

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And so it continious... For every unsubtantiated argument, there is a counter-argument. An endless loop here at HLP or so it seems...


Hey, it's fun. :D I finally solved this math problem last night that had been nagging at me for some weeks; I have to celebrate by posting some crap here, right? :D

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Unless you guys decide to get some actual facts with your arguments... Its not a philosophical debate here you know.


Everything is a philosophical debate here (or can easily be turned into one). If you want actual facts, you need to look in math books. :nod:

 

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sorry kid, you can play with yourself now, because like i said, i've got my opinions, you've got yours, and nothing i can say will get you to change your mind.  so i'm out


EDIT:

oh and one more thing before i go:

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What is a lung machine?  
you didn't hear about those Iraqis that stole lung machines from hospitals?  let me brief you, if you don't know what a lung machine is then perhaps you should stop reading math books and get a life.

a lung machine is what people are put in when their lungs don't function right.  usually they spend the rest of their lives in it.


But anyway, hospitals at least contain some medical equipment that can carried around and all of which is quite expensive.
like lung machines!? :wtf:

Oil refineries contain maybe a few tables and chairs, but not much else that can be just picked up and taken (unless you are some kind of superman who can tear hundred-ton oil processing units off the ground and carry them to your home ).
well lung machines weigh thousands of pounds you know, and they figured out a way to steal them :D :D


kthx.  bye.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2003, 10:49:52 am by 594 »

 

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ah come on, I wanted some more entertainment... :p

j/k :D

 

Offline Stealth

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it's not entertainment, i hate it.

enjoy.


oh, and see my above post, i edited it :)

 

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and another thing... now i know why the people that take part in these kind of threads (argumentative) often have such high post counts! (i.e. Knight Templar, CP, Stryke, DG, etc.)... because you make a post every minute :D

 

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Hey, if I want to boost my post count I'll get in to a spamming race with Petrarch - not argue with the likes of you

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you didn't hear about those Iraqis that stole lung machines from hospitals? let me brief you, if you don't know what a lung machine is then perhaps you should stop reading math books and get a life.

a lung machine is what people are put in when their lungs don't function right. usually they spend the rest of their lives in it.


well yeah, I know that, but they are called lung machines? I thought there was some weird technical name for those...

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well lung machines weigh thousands of pounds you know, and they figured out a way to steal them  

like lung machines!?


Well, thousand-pound units can at least be lifted by several people working together and be loaded onto trucks. You cannot exactly do that with oil processors, which are as large as houses and weigh much more (and are bolted to the ground to connect with oil pipelines anyway).

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it's not entertainment, i hate it.

enjoy.


um, then why were you taking part in it? :wtf: of course all of us enjoy it, including you, or else you wouldn't post. :D

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and another thing... now i know why the people that take part in these kind of threads (argumentative) often have such high post counts! (i.e. Knight Templar, CP, Stryke, DG, etc.)... because you make a post every minute


ah crap, you found our secret...

 

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Originally posted by CP5670


well yeah, I know that, but they are called lung machines? I thought there was some weird technical name for those...
no, they're called lung machines, or Iron lung machines.  they help paralyzed people breathe, by inflating and deflating the lungs.

Well, thousand-pound units can at least be lifted by several people working together and be loaded onto trucks. You cannot exactly do that with oil processors, which are as large as houses and weigh much more (and are bolted to the ground to connect with oil pipelines anyway).
they weigh like 4,000 pounds each, and not one was stolen, it said a FEW were stolen :D :D.  it's incredible ;)

have you ever been into an oil refinery?  OK, for one, i didn't say the oil REFINERIES were looted, i said the buildings, or offices, i can't remember, but i definately didn't say refineries.  


oh, and i was just kidding diamondgeezer :) :)
« Last Edit: July 16, 2003, 11:15:33 am by 594 »

 

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you said my name, and i got the understanding you were being sarcastic. thank you anyway though.


 

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Originally posted by diamondgeezer
you said my name, and i got the understanding you were being sarcastic. thank you anyway though.



:lol: fuck you. :lol:

:D  OK, i admit, you got me ;)

 
Id also like to point out that the oil refineries are located several hundred miles from population centres, the hospitals are at the end of someone street.

 

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they weigh like 6,000 pounds each, and not one was stolen, it said a FEW were stolen . it's incredible


If you have enough looters it should be possible; maybe they decided to split up the profits. :D

On a side note, I have seen these scenes in India where a freight truck has toppled over on its sides near road turns due to being overloaded with cargo and like 15 people are tugging on a rope to pull it back upright; they actually do manage to it after a while. :D

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have you ever been into an oil refinery? OK, for one, i didn't say the oil REFINERIES were looted, i said the buildings, or offices, i can't remember, but i definately didn't say refineries.


I have seen pictures of the insides. Looks pretty cool actually, but even a forklift or mobile crane would not be to pick up those machines. The oil administration was just run directly by the government though, and the government buildings were certainly sacked.
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Id also like to point out that the oil refineries are located several hundred miles from population centres, the hospitals are at the end of someone street.


and i'd also like to point out that in none of my posts did i say "oil refineries".

 

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Originally posted by CP5670


If you have enough looters it should be possible; maybe they decided to split up the profits. :D

On a side note, I have seen these scenes in India where a freight truck has toppled over on its sides near road turns due to being overloaded with cargo and like 15 people are tugging on a rope to pull it back upright; they actually do manage to it after a while. :D


ooooh yeah!  i've seen those pictures too!  *goes to find one*

but think about it.  what are they going to do with an Iron Lung? :lol: :D

i mean, it doesn't even work on the voltage they have in their house, assuming they even HAVE electricity