[an0n]

Originally posted by Sandwich
You say sumthin'?

Yes. I said large guns have always been associated with the male penis and homo-eroticism.

[Martinus]

Originally posted by Carl
that's about 95 cents in human money, right?

[color=66ff00]Provided you're not talking about american cents.
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[EdwinDLT]

Originally posted by an0n
Pfff. Photo's are for fags.

Where's the challenge when no matter what you point it at you're going to get an image with perfect scaling, lighting, texturing and shape?

It's like having a bike-making contest and giving each contestant a fully automated Harley Davidson factory.

YES! Someone else who understands the greatness of oil painting!

[Stryke 9]

5 isn't actually all that impressive. Don't recall the figures, but I think that's almost at the point where it starts being as good as standard 200-speed 35mm film. I mean, without the century or so of education, development, and camera design that comes with regular film.

Also, I can take more than 40 pictures (technically, more than 200 on the AE-1) before I have to change film. You can do, what, five?



Still not bad, but I'll hold out for the EOS-1 DS.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Also, I can take more than 40 pictures (technically, more than 200 on the AE-1) before I have to change film. You can do, what, five?

On a 128Mb stick, I can take just shy of a 100 5 MP images. Unlike the ~250 I used to be able to take with my old 1.3 MP camera on the same stick.

Of course, I can lower the quality to VGA (640x480) and fit around 2,500 pictures....

[Stryke 9]

Poo.



However- I can drop my camera, and it is likely to survive the experience. Or take it through sandstorms, or into choppy seawater. Digital cameras cannot make this claim.

I've done all of those, incidentially.

Shut up.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Stryke 9
Poo.



However- I can drop my camera, and it is likely to survive the experience. Or take it through sandstorms, or into choppy seawater. Digital cameras cannot make this claim.

I've done all of those, incidentially.

Shut up.

Bar.


You may be able to drop your camera, but I can keep a hold on my camera.

Seriously now, face it - you're envious, and are searching madly for the negative aspects of digital photography. All I have to say is:

[Stryke 9]

Envious? Pah. I'd be envious if it was a Canon model. Or even a top-of-the-line Nikon. I just like poking fun at the inferior in equipment. I'd list it all out, but I'm not that boring.

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by mikhael
I'd be more impressed if it were a Canon EOS-1DS. That's the only digital camera I'm spending money on. 11.1 mega pixel baby, and standard Canon EF lens mount. Why buy anything less?

The 1DS is definitely a superior piece of equipment, but my gripe is size. I've handled a V1 in my hands, and well... personally, I find it solid but not overwhelming. Fits in my school blazer pocket quite comfortably (we considered sneaking away with it while trying it at the camera shop, but that would have been wrong).

[mikhael]

Originally posted by J.F.K.


The 1DS is definitely a superior piece of equipment, but my gripe is size. I've handled a V1 in my hands, and well... personally, I find it solid but not overwhelming. Fits in my school blazer pocket quite comfortably (we considered sneaking away with it while trying it at the camera shop, but that would have been wrong).

If it fits in your pocket, its a toy, not a camera.

[Krackers87]

Oh ya? Check this baby out.



4 pixels!

[Stryke 9]

The 1D and 1DS are huge because they're modeled after the EOS-1, which has a built-in autowinder and several other space-intensive functions. It's probably mostly filler.

[Krackers87]

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by mikhael
If it fits in your pocket, its a toy, not a camera.

Why? Why does something have to be larger than the confines of a pocket to be taken seriously?

[Deepblue]

Whats the problem with it?

[Gortef]

oh that's a nice little toy indeed my friend

I suppose from now on that camera is going to be with you allways. What could be more fun than take good pics out of allmost anything one encounters during a walk for example

[mikhael]

Originally posted by J.F.K.


Why? Why does something have to be larger than the confines of a pocket to be taken seriously?

Because cameras that fit in your pocket have **** for focus, zoom, or flexibility.

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by mikhael
Because cameras that fit in your pocket have **** for focus, zoom, or flexibility.

I concede that larger cameras are superior in those areas (zoom obviously, but then again, what about that Panasonic 12x Lumix digital? That's equivalent to a 40mm telephoto lens or so, isn't it?). But being less capable than others doesn't seem to justify them being either a toy or ****, to me. Is it just that you don't like having any less than the very best? Because really, what these miniaturised models offer seems to be far better than how you describe them (you're the first voice of protest to such a degree I've heard), to every other photography enthusiast I know.

[Shrike]

Originally posted by J.F.K.
Why? Why does something have to be larger than the confines of a pocket to be taken seriously?

It's Freudian thing.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by mikhael


Because cameras that fit in your pocket have **** for focus, zoom, or flexibility.

DSC-V1:

Focus: definable area focus (center, top, bottom, left, right, center-wide, spot) or user-definable distance (0.1m to 15m to infinity)

Zoom: 4x optical (it's a pocket-sized camera, for pete's sake! )

Flexibility: Doesn't bend a bit due to metal construction. Oh, wait, you mean flexability of use? Well, originally, I was going to get the DSC-F717 (the one with the big swivel barrel lens attached to one side). But I eventually went for the V1 for it's size... I have a friend who has a DSC-F707 (same size as the F717), and he rarely carries it along with him. I figure I'[ll get more use out of the smaller camera, not being a journalist, than I would have a big one.

Plus, it has shutter priority, aperture priority, and complete manual control modes. ISO from 100-800 plus auto, EV +/- 2, and various preset white balance modes, as well as a "point-at-a-neutral-color-and-set-the-white-balance" mode.

It's quite versatile.