[Hippo]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
Not to mention there is more than one planet in deneb...

Doh!:ick

[karajorma]

It's quite likely that the planet we see in the intro isn't the main world in Deneb.

In the first mission of FS2 they drop over 1/2 million troops on "the inhabited planet Cygnus Prime" I doubt they'd bother for the desert world in the intro. Nuke it from orbit more likely

As for the size of the fleets they refer to the Suprise attack in Epsilon Pegasi as wiping out a large percentage of the fleet and having 75,000 casualties. That means that the fleet must be pretty huge since you have 10,000 men to a destroyer and 6,000 on a corvette.

[Knight Templar]

Yes, remember the first Mission in Fs2 where you are evac-ing Vasudan Colonists from Cygni (Deneb) Prime, and after that 600,000 GTVA Marines landed to disbatch of the NTF?

Kara:

[miniDwarf]

how about one warship per fleet, with some having a second old orion waiting to be decomissioned but still serving

kinda like modern warships replacing the old ones with some overlap time

makes sense since a destroyer would act as the major hub in military operations, so why bother with two HQs?

[magatsu1]

wouldn't "The Battle of/for Deneb" be the fight for the "capital" planet of the system ?
That's what I was thinking anyway.

[Taristin]

I always assumed it was to regain control of the system and give the alliance a foothold to repel the shivans with.

[AlphaOne]

Well I must admit that 90 destroyers is quite a lot but considering the fact that the new GTVF(aka GTVA) is some 10 sistems larger and later in the war manahes to gain hold of some very rich in resource sistems more the 15 from the shivans..(one sistem having multiple jump points to several sistems..!)
Also the role of a friggate is to provide aditional support in case of battle without bringing into battle sveral cruisers..that is why my fleets are grouped this way:
-4 destroyers
-3 or more corvettes
-3 or more friggates and 4 maibe 5 cruisers i mean its cheaper and these friggates are more powerfull than a corvette and weker than a destroyer.!

[TheCelestialOne]

How about just placing 1 Alpha 1 copy in every system?

[Hippo]

The Battle of Deneb wasn't about Deneb, it was a last ditch effort by the GTA and PVE to stop the Lucifer before it could reach Vasuda. The Shivans never took over a planet, but seemed to be more interested in controling individual jump nodes, so Deneb was probably safe, and still controled by either the GTA or PVE.

[LtNarol]

It would be very unlikely that a system would have multiple planets that could sustain human life in its open environment.  The planet shown in the intro was probably the populated planet in the system.

[Hippo]

Originally posted by LtNarol
It would be very unlikely that a system would have multiple planets that could sustain human life in its open environment.  The planet shown in the intro was probably the populated planet in the system.

Or it could be a deserted one, asuming that the Hades dropped all those bodies...

[StratComm]

I've wondered why that planet in the intro movie went from lush to barren, but the most probable reason is that destroed ships crashed there.  There is the wrecked Hades, but the surface of the planet looks like it had seen a rain of debris for several decades following the battle.  However, since there are already a large number of discrepencies in that intro, it can be fairly safely disregarded.

[Akalabeth Angel]

There's at least 15 Terran Destroyers, and 3 Vasudan Destroyers mentioned in the game according to http://www.brainzipper.com/fs2/notes/fs2_ship_list.html.

    I'm not sure how many destroyers would be available per fleet, but I agree with other estimates that there would probably be 3-4 Corvettes per destroyer, and in addition to that some Fenris and Leviathan on maybe a 2 to 1 ratio with the Corvettes. Remembe that the Deimos is supposed to replace the Fenris and Leviathan Classes, therefore its safe to assume that the Deimos will eventually be on a 1:1 ratio with the Cruisers and in time overtake tem as the Cruisers are destoyed or phased out.

[TopAce]

Originally posted by Akalabeth Angel
.... Remembe that the Deimos is supposed to replace the Fenris and Leviathan Classes, therefore its safe to assume that the Deimos will eventually be on a 1:1 ratio with the Cruisers and in time overtake tem as the Cruisers are destoyed or phased out.

Yes, but have a look at the sizes, time and money. There were older cruisers(the Fenris, and the Lev), which were ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. And here is the Deimos corvette, which are TO BE CONSTRUCTED.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Yeah but also remember that the Cruisers are refitted Great War relics really. How many Cruisers were built after the Great War? And how many survived the Great War in the first place?? And if you look at the number of ships which actually appear in the game, then the Deimos is almost on par with the Fenris and Leviathan. It's certainly not a 3:1 ratio by any means.

   I know the Deimos is much larger, more expensive and so forth, but if its more cost effective than the older Cruisers, I can see it replacing it very easily. The Fenris particularly is very outdated. The Leviathan I can see having some longevity as the current beam armament makes it an excellent escort.

    Who knows, maybe the GTVA will rethink its policies and simply make the Corvette class a new part of the fleet, while retaining the Cruiser class in probably a new ship.

[Hippo]

Originally posted by Akalabeth Angel
And how many survived the Great War in the first place??

All these questions and more will be answered in AHTW...

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Akalabeth Angel
Yeah but also remember that the Cruisers are refitted Great War relics really. How many Cruisers were built after the Great....

...... while retaining the Cruiser class in probably a new ship.

Well they obviously want to keep the cruiser class around, or they wouldn't have issued the Aelous.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Well they obviously want to keep the cruiser class around, or they wouldn't have issued the Aelous

All 24 of them?

[tEAbAG]

I believe that ideally GTVA fleets consist of 1 destroyer, 3-4 'vetts, 6-7 cruisers.  These fleets are designed to cover a wide are of opperations flexible enough support each other based on developing circumstances.

Of course demand from various sectors, shortages, and malfunctions cause variation between the fleets.  For the NTF the problems are compounded to the extent that they have no standard fleet structure.

FS Universal Refrence Project has a good fleet list.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Akalabeth Angel
Well they obviously want to keep the cruiser class around, or they wouldn't have issued the Aelous

All 24 of them?

Small number or not, issuing a new line of cruisers would hint that the GTVA still *wants* cruisers in their fleets.

Tea: I think your fleets are a bit small. Destroyers are big, yes, but looking at how many were destroyed in FS2 and how many were seemingly in the 3rd fleet (Based only in Capella), I'd say they at least have 3 - 4 destroyers per fleet with one being the flagship. Corvette and Cruiser estimates seem low as well.