[Warlock]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
That was an annoying power outage. Nothing bad though. What a bunch of whiners down in New York City. This is their first power outage since the 70s, and they act like it's the end of the world.  In Upstate New York, we get at least 5 blackouts a year.

I donno about you....but if I had to stand in a 4 mile long line just to get home after work....I'd ***** too.

I think the biggest issue from all this should be that the power companies need to take some of the $ ppl shell out for power and update their systems and back up systems.

Like you said...you lose power 5 times a year,... and my power goes out if 4 rain drops fall at once,....yet for a 3 room place I'm paying $35-$120 a month (low being summer rate,..high winter).

Think about it ... everyone has to pay for utilities,.... yet theose are the list updated things in the country. The first time I had to get into a Verizon hub to work on their access system....I laughed for an hour,...I swear to god the place was nothing more than a 4 room shelter with CAT 3 wiring flopped all over the freaking place. It seriously looked like ppl hadn't been in the building for 20 years,... yet it was the phone hub for 3 counties and one city. I'd wager the power company has similar equipment.

[Grey Wolf]

Of course, part of the reason why New York is so dependent on outside power is because morons in Long Island forced them to shut down the Shoreham nuclear plant after it was built, but before it was up and running.

[tEAbAG]

Originally posted by Knight Templar
well, the east coast does seem to be a target these days...

And it's a power outage. Whoopdee-fucking-doo! Try living in California with Gray Davis as your governor.

Hell Yeah!  For once its not us sweating sitting in the dark.  Nice to see someone else suffer.

[Taristin]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Of course, part of the reason why New York is so dependent on outside power is because morons in Long Island forced them to shut down the Shoreham nuclear plant after it was built, but before it was up and running.

Yeah, now it's an empty shell of a building sitting there. But those idiots (and I used to be/still consider myself a Long Islander) Don't realize that there are like 3 Nucular (It's pronounced Nuke-you-lar) plants right accross the water in Conneticut. And a Big one on Indian Point up the Hudson a bit.

No, no, they'd rather complain about how they are being poisoned, and that theres no way of the Island in an emergency and crap like that.

I bet no one's complaining about nuclear power now.

Oh, and on a side note... All of those places having no power, and my puny lame ass county is one of the few in NY state with electric.  Rockland, yeeaaa!

[Grey Wolf]

I was rather annoyed that it took 2 1/2 hours to get power back in my house. There are 3 nuclear reactors on the other side of the county (Nine Mile Points 1 and 2, and Fitzpatrick), and still we lose power

[Galemp]

My school's website in Newark (NJIT) is offline. So are all my computer geeky friends.

I've never been so alone...

[Falcon X]

From what it sounds like... it almost sounds like the 1967 blackout.  Some antiquated transformer went and that cascaded.  It's a grid of power, if one part of the grid disconnects then the rest will be overloaded... not good.  Or if they're aren't enough plants then a power plant will try too hard... not good.  

Any country's power grid is the most sensitive thing to terrorism.  Sure taking out a nuc power plant would be a disaster.  How about taking out the building that sits 200 yard off the interstate in Colorado.  It controls the power for most of the Western Power Grid.  That would be a massive cluster ****.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by GalacticEmperor
My school's website in Newark (NJIT) is offline. So are all my computer geeky friends.

I've never been so alone...

I'm on.

[FreeTerran]

Holy **** i have seen it in the news alone in NYC are over 100000 on the street

[Knight Templar]

I'd think they'd find it wiser to stay in doors then go stand out in the street...

[Gortef]

it sure was a lot of people

how're the things now?

[Stryke 9]

Bwahahahaha...

[Rictor]

I'm in Toronto, I've been blacked out from when it started to sometime during the night when it came back on. So, about 10 or 12 hours I'de say, without power.

From what I hear there was about 40 million people with no power, 2/3 in the uS and 1/3 in Canada.

There wasn't looting or anything over here, it was just dark. And the building beside us had a fire (barbecue) so the fire-crew showed up and that was a bit of excitement.

Yesterday during the dusk hours, there were reports of certain parts of Ontario getting their power back, even some close to where I live. I guess those were the streets with the hosptials and banks and such. As far as I know, we got power back during the night, but its all good.

The US in blaming Canada, Canada is blaming the US and so forth. I'm suprised its all so interconnected, I would have never thought that Toronto's power grid would be connected to New York or Detroit.

[Turnsky]

thank god for hydro-electric;)

[IceFire]

Originally posted by Turnsky
thank god for hydro-electric;)

Hydro-electric had similar problems....parts of Niagara hydro electric were able to isolate themselves...the rest were knocked off completely.

Seems the North American power system is in worse shape than anyone thought.

My power was out at 4:20 pm.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by IceFire

Hydro-electric had similar problems....parts of Niagara hydro electric were able to isolate themselves...the rest were knocked off completely.

Seems the North American power system is in worse shape than anyone thought.

My power was out at 4:20 pm.

Tasmania has its own grid... which by anyone's standards, is older than the US nuclear power grid, and far more stable.. and seems to be better equipped to handle the odd emergency..

[IceFire]

Originally posted by Turnsky


Tasmania has its own grid... which by anyone's standards, is older than the US nuclear power grid, and far more stable.. and seems to be better equipped to handle the odd emergency..

Well probably for two reasons.

Many officials are saying that a third world nation would be better equipped to deal with such a problem because of all the backup generators and whatnot which would keep supply down during an intense need of electricity.

Plus, Tasmania isn't nearly as big as the area affected and no doubt even if the power grid were strained that it would not have a giant amount of customers to draw on.  Apparently the reason the system went down as far as it did is because as each grid went down, the demand rose increasingly until the entire system was so stretched that everything crashed.

But as you said before about the hydro electric...we have lots of that around here (Niagara falls for instance - one of the biggest sources of hydro electric power) and that didn't save things one bit.

[Taristin]

Well, First the hydro plant grid failed, and when their power went down, that prompted all of the nuclear plants to shut down. (Don't ask me why, they said this on the news)

[Turnsky]

http://www.hydro.com.au/education/schemes/index.html

that said, droughts do indeed threaten the stability of hydro pretty severely, they even had to prep a large gas-powered station in case the dams fell to a critical level... which they did..

[Hippo]

MY whole town is powered by a coal plant in Salem, some 20 miles away, even though there is a rather large Nuclear plant 30 miles away ...



Heres the coal one;


These two plants keep my area on a seperate grid, so we only have power outages when a tree snaps the cables coming from both plants...