[01010]

Still haven't seen The Matrix Reloaded. Can't say I feel particularly bothered either.

[Stealth]

you couldn't be bothered?

well hey!  neither could we!

[TopAce]

The duel between the 'great master' and Neo. I had the feeling that Darth Maul and Obi-Wan are fighting without lightsabers.

really!

[Stealth]

yeah that was good, i didn't like the music though... it sounded too... tribal

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Descenterace
It does explain a lot of the second film, especially the very end, when Neo stops the Sentinels.

What does it explain about that?

[Descenterace]

Neo 'touched the source, and in doing so, seperated his mind from his body.  Now he exists between the real world and the Matrix'.  So he didn't stop the Sentinels.  But he was affected by the EMP that shut them all down, because he was still partly in the Matrix.

Heh, Smith's corridor line was great.

Smith: *opens door on the right* 'Damn, not who I was hoping for, but maybe you can lead me to him.'
Niobe: 'Who are you?'
Smith: 'You could say that I am the Alpha...'
Smith 2: *opens door on the left* '...of your Omega.'

One of the better Agent lines in the Matrix, I think.


With all the mythical creatures (previous Agents) in the Merovingian's palace, I had the nagging feeling that Persephone was based on something mythical.  After a scan through the D&D Monster Manual, I came to the following conclusion: she's probably a Succubus.  I'm certainly not sure that she's human, although Neo would know.


I'm waiting for the DVD of The Matrix: Reloaded.  October 14th doesn't seem to be coming any closer, and it'll probably be the 21st before it arrives in Britain.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Descenterace
Neo 'touched the source, and in doing so, seperated his mind from his body.  Now he exists between the real world and the Matrix'.  So he didn't stop the Sentinels.  But he was affected by the EMP that shut them all down, because he was still partly in the Matrix.

but what EMP?  i was under the impression that he stopped the sentinels himself, hurting himself in the process.  but it makes sense what you say, because a few seconds after Neo and the sentinels 'die' that other ship (Hammer?) comes and picks them up, so perhaps it was that ship's EMP that stopped them?

[J.F.K.]

Originally posted by Stealth
You haven't seen "Hero" have you

Hero's good, but if I recall, it's all armed is it not? Amazing in its own right, but I wouldn't compare it with what Jackie Chan does.

[Razor]

Originally posted by Descenterace


Smith: *opens door on the right* 'Damn, not who I was hoping for, but maybe you can lead me to him.'
Niobe: 'Who are you?'
Smith: 'You could say that I am the Alpha...'
Smith 2: *opens door on the left* '...of your Omega.'

Smith 3: I am the beginning
*door opens*
Smith 4: Of your end... ( I like the way he said that line)
I said it before and I'll say it again. Smith rules and is my number 1 favorite character in the movies/game.

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Razor


Smith 3: I am the beginning
*door opens*
Smith 4: Of your end... ( I like the way he said that line)
I said it before and I'll say it again. Smith rules and is my number 1 favorite character in the movies/game.

indeed... and hugo weaving breathes malevolence into smith like nothing else... i doubt that any other actor could've done such an excellent job of it:nod:

[Stealth]

Originally posted by J.F.K.


Hero's good, but if I recall, it's all armed is it not? Amazing in its own right, but I wouldn't compare it with what Jackie Chan does.

yeah i know, i saw Legend of drunken master too, and it was awesome, but you can't say it's what jackie chan "does".  remember, no movie in the world is true fighting, it's all wire work, "hollywood wushu" etc. so it's not really what Jackie Chan does, it's what the choreographer does

[Turnsky]

Originally posted by Stealth


yeah i know, i saw Legend of drunken master too, and it was awesome, but you can't say it's what jackie chan "does".  remember, no movie in the world is true fighting, it's all wire work, "hollywood wushu" etc. so it's not really what Jackie Chan does, it's what the choreographer does

same with bruce lee movies.. meaning that there's no wire work whatsoever...

[Levyathan]

Originally posted by Stealth
so perhaps it was that ship's EMP that stopped them?

"Gee, what a coincidence!"

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Stealth


yeah i know, i saw Legend of drunken master too, and it was awesome, but you can't say it's what jackie chan "does".  remember, no movie in the world is true fighting, it's all wire work, "hollywood wushu" etc. so it's not really what Jackie Chan does, it's what the choreographer does

Actually, Jackie doesn't use wires, stuntmen, or anything like that. Yeah, the fights are choreographed (98% of the time by him I'd say), but the pure talent Jackie has definitely shows through.

And I never heard of anything beyond "Drunken Master" and "Legend of...", you're right.

[Grey Wolf]

Originally posted by Sandwich


Actually, Jackie doesn't use wires, stuntmen, or anything like that. Yeah, the fights are choreographed (98% of the time by him I'd say), but the pure talent Jackie has definitely shows through.

And I never heard of anything beyond "Drunken Master" and "Legend of...", you're right.

Sadly, it's not quite true anymore. The last 2 movies involved Hollywood techiques:  the Tuxedo was basically all computers, and the Talisman used wires.

[Stealth]

it's not true that Jackie Chan doesn't use wires... every hollywood actor uses wires in 99.9% of fight scenes (except with cheesy hand-to-hand ones).  yeah, Jackie Chan definately uses wires (check "Drunken Master" and you'll see what i mean, particularly at the end fight scene).  see, the true power of wire work is making it look like the actor's not using wires... that it's completely natural

But yea i'll definatley admit that out of Jet Li, Chow yun fat, etc. Jackie Chan definately is the most skilled as far as performing his own stunts, choreographing his own fight scenes, using the least wires (only when necessary) etc.

[Sandwich]

Originally posted by Grey Wolf 2009
Sadly, it's not quite true anymore. The last 2 movies involved Hollywood techiques:  the Tuxedo was basically all computers, and the Talisman used wires.

Sorry, my bad - I meant Jackie Chan movies, not Hollywood crap that happen to have Jackie starring in them.

And Stealth, Drunken Master was (IIRC) so corny that I'm not going to waste time and effort looking for a copy.

[Stealth]

Originally posted by Sandwich


Sorry, my bad - I meant Jackie Chan movies, not Hollywood crap that happen to have Jackie starring in them.

And Stealth, Drunken Master was (IIRC) so corny that I'm not going to waste time and effort looking for a copy.

ahhh, yeah Jackie Chan choreographed/directed movies are awesome

Yeah, i bought Drunken Master a few years ago, watched it once, then it's been sitting gathering dust.  do you want it?  cause i'll pay you to take it  legend of drunken master is probably one of, if not the, best jackie chan movies i have.

[Agent]

What was your favorite fight scene in the Matrix: Reloaded?

I would much preffer the scene where Mr Smith kicks Mr Anderson's ass in the subway fight in The Matrix.

[diamondgeezer]

That's the one where Smith gets killed by a train, no?

Hmm... you're not Razor in disguise are you?