[Woolie Wool]

...the 9/11 disaster happened.

Two years since kamikaze planes slammed into two of America's greatest landmarks and killed thousands, two years since the largest terrorist attack in history occured, two years since the world changed forever. It seems like it was yesterday...

[Unknown Target]

and ya know what? The terrorists won! Look what they caused the US to do.
I used to love this country, now I'm not so sure.

[FreeTerran]

Lets be quiet for an minute...

[Kosh]

Glory glory paranoia.......

[kasperl]

Originally posted by Unknown Target
and ya know what? The terrorists won! Look what they caused the US to do.
I used to love this country, now I'm not so sure.

i never loved the US, but i did start liking it less and less after 9/11.


and i am afraid you are right, the terrorists won.

i do pity all the people that got hurt during the attack, i will never support the murder of civilians, ut i do think that this has been getting too much attention. picture this, 3000 people die in Rwanda during some large battle or campaign in the civil war, how much attention would it get?

[Woolie Wool]

The problem is no one gives a rip about Rwanda, so the news networks don't show it. The networks want to get maximum Nielsen ratings. All other objectives are secondary.

[Ashrak]

im just sorry for all the Estonians who died in the attack.

[Flipside]

It was a horrible thing to have happen, theres one photo that sticks in my mind, from todays ceremony, one of a woman sitting staring at a Rose, and behind her is a childs-drawing with the words 'I miss you Daddy' scrawled on it.
I think nothing describes the loss suffered by ALL innocent civilans involved in this, American, Afghani and, yes, Iraqi, better than those four words.
But I also agree that the American government has run out of 'currency' with this one event and trying to force world opinions and world trends using this loss is not only getting worn a bit thin, I find it more than a bit disrespectful for a government to use innocents deaths to propogate more

Flipside

[Killfrenzy]

Has it really been two years? Woolie's right, it does seem like yesterday.

And that sick screwball ObL has released a new video stating that the west will soon 'pay for their crimes' as he put it.

I'd love to meet him just to find out what exactly his problem is.....

If he want's to take on the west, let him do so openly rather than slaughter civilians who had no chance of fighting back. He's called the 9/11 terrorists the 'honest and the bravest' (or something like that). How honest is it to hijack CIVILIAN planes and fly them into CIVILIAN targets?

I'm going to go now before I start ranting.....

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Flipside

I think nothing describes the loss suffered by ALL innocent civilans involved in this, American, Afghani and, yes, Iraqi, better than those four words.

The man speaks the truth. Unless anyone wants me to launch into a full blown rant, which I think no one does, then Flipside's quote just about sums up my opinions.

[Kamikaze]

I think it's hilarious how people overvalue the lives of people in their own country. All the "respect the dead" 9/11 memorial events in my mind are travesties.

[redsniper]

Although it is still a very sad and tragic event I think it's time to move on. We will, of course, still remember this day and it will probably be added to calendars and such, but having all kinds of hype about it 2 years later doesn't accomplish anything useful.  Let's just build a memorial and have a moment of silence every year for them.

[YodaSean]

except we've already built a few hundred memorials I'm sure.  I think the whole memorial building craze is finally dying down, it was sort of ridiculous for a while.

I'm not saying that this wasn't a tragic series of events, but the memorial thing went a little over the top.

[Grey Wolf]

If we're having memorial services on September 11th, we should have memorial services on September 17th. You want to know why? That's the single bloodiest day ever on U.S. soil (the Battle of Antietam).  Over 7000 dead, with nearly 23000 total casualties, significantly more than died in the terrorist attacks. And I consider people from within one country slaugtering each other more tragic than someone flying a plane into a building. I guarantee that there are probably DOZENS of days in the history of the world which easily surpass 9/11 in casualties.

EDIT: In the event that 7640 seems small to you, consider that there wree only 6695 total deaths between the American Revolution and the War of 1812.

[Knight Templar]

Originally posted by Kamikaze
I think it's hilarious how people overvalue the lives of people in their own country. All the "respect the dead" 9/11 memorial events in my mind are travesties.

Honestly, that was below even stryke..

And Grey, that was a war. Tragic or not, civil or not, they weren't civilians that died at the hands of terrorists who are angry about our government...

[Deepblue]

They aren't mad at our government. They HATE everyone one of us. They started this war but were going to finish it.

[Knight Templar]

Right, my mistake. The two seem to be used interchangably around here.

[Rictor]

Originally posted by Deepblue
They aren't mad at our government. They HATE everyone one of us. They started this war but were going to finish it.

You can't honestly believe that..thats and oversimplification and a generalization. It deflects the blame, so you don't need to examine the problem. Instead of thinking "How are we going to kill them", wouldn't it be more productive and ultimately provide more safety to think "Why would they do this, and how can we change our attitudes so that no one ever wants to attack us again".

[redsniper]

the only changes that would make them stop hating us would be if we only let our women show one eye in public and we prayed to Allah five times a day.
EDIT: I have nothing against Muslims, only fanatical Muslims who want to destroy America.

[Kamikaze]

Ah, so innocent deaths are completely excusable in a war eh? Lives are worth less in war eh? I see, just like all those deaths in Iraq.



I am not convinced that you people would act very differently if that attack was made in formal war circumstances.

And it's sad really, how you people try to convince yourselves you're all on the moral high ground and screaching about how you lost soooo many lives and act all sad and dramatic over it. "Oh, they're terroists, how EVIL! How dare they kill our people, but no worries, we can conveniently kill a few thousand of 'em in a war". A disgusting parody, a travesty really.